does it matter the surgeon for bimax or is bimax bimax when it comes to looks

[MaxillaMunter96]

i’m in nj and idk i’m getting it medically done. will it look the same as somebody getting it for cosmetics? i want it to turn out good i need foward growth.

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

i’m in nj and idk i’m getting it medically done. will it look the same as somebody getting it for cosmetics? i want it to turn out good i need foward growth.

bump

 

[esoterik]

uhhh, the surgeon is everything bud

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

uhhh, the surgeon is everything bud

alr mb im 15 so what do i do then.

 

[esoterik]

alr mb im 15 so what do i do then.

if ur doing it medically, dont expect good cosmetic results, like at all

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

if ur doing it medically, dont expect good cosmetic results, like at all

absolutely shattered my shit thanks

 

[kranerman23123]

if ur doing it medically, dont expect good cosmetic results, like at all

giant shill detected

 

[blacksheep]

if ur doing it medically, dont expect good cosmetic results, like at all

in my experience the results are still good. don't expect a bp result, but even during medical plastic surgery cosmetics are taken into account. they will work with your facial harmony

 

[esoterik]

absolutely shattered my shit thanks

surgeons who practice and perform bimaxillary osteotomy will, and always will stem from a functional context, the blackpill surgeons just put aesthetics > function

 

[esoterik]

giant shill detected

i called giant out for botching and high ego when people confront him for botching, this has nothing to do with giant

in my experience the results are still good. don't expect a bp result, but even during medical plastic surgery cosmetics are taken into account. they will work with your facial harmony

well duh, the good results functionally, are severe cases, which is common (and sometimes, cosmetic is a consideration, not always)

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

in my experience the results are still good. don't expect a bp result, but even during medical plastic surgery cosmetics are taken into account. they will work with your facial harmony

can i still get foward growth cuz i have bad recession from maxilla

 

[luca_.]

alr mb im 15 so what do i do then.

You’re getting bimax at 15??

 

[luca_.]

can i still get foward growth cuz i have bad recession from maxilla

Yeah that’s pretty much the entire point of the surgery of course

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

You’re getting bimax at 15??

yea my ortho said i needed it

 

[luca_.]

yea my ortho said i needed it

In what country?

 

[blacksheep]

can i still get foward growth cuz i have bad recession from maxilla

idk man, visit an ortho asap. they'll be able to access ur case better

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

In what country?

New Jersey, USA

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

idk man, visit an ortho asap. they'll be able to access ur case better

i got the referral from the ortho

 

[luca_.]

New Jersey, USA

You’re not cooked surgeons there are pretty good.

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

You’re not cooked surgeons there are pretty good.

ok that’s good at least. i’m not a ton sure what hospital but if i tell you some options could that help or nah

 

[blacksheep]

i got the referral from the ortho

i'd say to go through with it then. visit a couple surgeons. tell them about ur cosmetic concerns as well and see who's plan is best at taking those into account

 

[blacksheep]

ok that’s good at least. i’m not a ton sure what hospital but if i tell you some options could that help or nah

ur ortho can always give u recommendations too btw

 

[luca_.]

ok that’s good at least. i’m not a ton sure what hospital but if i tell you some options could that help or nah

1. You’ll just dox yourself
2. No I do not know the surgeons from American hospitals. Don’t t expect a crazy difference with your maxilla, but if you’re mandible is recessed you will se a pretty big difference there. Also a reminder, you will see the actual results in about a month after the surgery, and the recovery is pretty brutal for your age so take care

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

i'd say to go through with it then. visit a couple surgeons. tell them about ur cosmetic concerns as well and see who's plan is best at taking those into account

alr i just really hope it looks good i feel like i have a good enough base where if they give me the foward growth i can look above average

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

1. You’ll just dox yourself
2. No I do not know the surgeons from American hospitals. Don’t t expect a crazy difference with your maxilla, but if you’re mandible is recessed you will se a pretty big difference there. Also a reminder, you will see the actual results in about a month after the surgery, and the recovery is pretty brutal for your age so take care

ok thanks bro really appreciate it i heard some recovery stuff it looks bad but if it turns out good its worth it. just hope they do a good job

 

[kranerman23123]

i called giant out for botching and high ego when people confront him for botching, this has nothing to do with giant


well duh, the good results functionally, are severe cases, which is common (and sometimes, cosmetic is a consideration, not always)

cant i take my doctors and orthos referral to a surgeon who will focus on cosmetics tho? Giant creeps me out.

 

[luca_.]

ok thanks bro really appreciate it i heard some recovery stuff it looks bad but if it turns out good its worth it. just hope they do a good job

Yeah after the surgery you will experience some pretty bad pain but it will go away. Also pray that you have a good surgeon because they can give you asymmetries or botch you. It’s a really small risk but keep it in mind

 

[luca_.]

cant i take my doctors and orthos referral to a surgeon who will focus on cosmetics tho? Giant creeps me out.

What’s wrong with Liam?

 

[esoterik]

cant i take my doctors and orthos referral to a surgeon who will focus on cosmetics tho? Giant creeps me out.

well yeah, just take scans, but the hard part is finding a surgeon who has a aesthetic eye, most surgeons will say they will focus more aesthetically, but its either, A: just saying that so you hear what you want to, or B: they have no experience in aesthetic function, they wont risk less health for more aesthetic because thats not normal for them

 

[luca_.]

well yeah, just take scans, but the hard part is finding a surgeon who has a aesthetic eye, most surgeons will say they will focus more aesthetically, but its either, A: just saying that so you hear what you want to, or B: they have no experience in aesthetic function, they wont risk less health for more aesthetic because thats not normal for them

Yeah bigger chance for them to fuck up their reputation, which they won’t take

 

[blacksheep]

ok thanks bro really appreciate it i heard some recovery stuff it looks bad but if it turns out good its worth it. just hope they do a good job

i'm recovering from a lower jaw and chin osteotomy right now. i'm around 3 weeks post op. the recovery sucks, but it's more of an annoying feeling than actual pain that lasted for around 2 weeks. now i still have slight swelling, numbness and crave crispy baguettes so badly hahah

 

[esoterik]

Yeah bigger chance for them to fuck up their reputation, which they won’t take

eh, thats also a part, but what im saying is, to them, they are bluepilled, so, imagine a patient asking you to risk more potential health benefits for aesthetic function, that seems alien to them

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

i'm recovering from a lower jaw and chin osteotomy right now. i'm around 3 weeks post op. the recovery sucks, but it's more of an annoying feeling than actual pain that lasted for around 2 weeks. now i still have slight swelling, numbness and crave crispy baguettes so badly hahah

lmao i’m sure the results are worth it tho. i’m allitle scared tho cuz i thought this surgery was gonna make me look really good but ig not. i’m gonna try and see multiple surgeons and see what they say. the ortho said i have severe overjet, bilateral cross bite, narrow palate, and recession so everything shitty lmao

 

[kranerman23123]

What’s wrong with Liam?

idk he just gives me the heeby jeebies and im gonna trust my gut

well yeah, just take scans, but the hard part is finding a surgeon who has a aesthetic eye, most surgeons will say they will focus more aesthetically, but its either, A: just saying that so you hear what you want to, or B: they have no experience in aesthetic function, they wont risk less health for more aesthetic because thats not normal for them

So iyo should I look around this forum for recommended surgeons in USA (so I can use my referral) or just shop myself for one locally based off what they recommend for me?

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

Yeah after the surgery you will experience some pretty bad pain but it will go away. Also pray that you have a good surgeon because they can give you asymmetries or botch you. It’s a really small risk but keep it in mind

so in ur opinion how much of a result can i see. my mom said im going to best surgeon in the state or tgeee group ig. but its medical so idk. i got to them on the 29th should i express my concerns on ascetics

 

[kranerman23123]

What’s wrong with Liam?

Ill elaborate a bit more since vibes are unfair but 1st of all I dont know how I feel about a 4chan type of person operating on my face, but second and most importantly I know he works on all kinds of new proprietary forms of plastic surgery and thats really cool, but its all very new and experimental so I want to wait and see how fast that new techn will improve, 10 years from now an obo might be a much less invasive procedure who knows

 

[luca_.]

Ill elaborate a bit more since vibes are unfair but 1st of all I dont know how I feel about a 4chan type of person operating on my face, but second and most importantly I know he works on all kinds of new proprietary forms of plastic surgery and thats really cool, but its all very new and experimental so I want to wait and see how fast that new techn will improve, 10 years from now an obo might be a much less invasive procedure who knows

Understandable. If I’m not mistaken Liam only designs the implants and sometimes assists with the surgeries in turkey or Italy. I get what you mean like you wouldn’t trust someone to operate on your face that talks about bisexual porn on .org. I personally think he’s trusthworthy, idk why people expect ,,doctors” to not have an outside life

 

[luca_.]

so in ur opinion how much of a result can i see. my mom said im going to best surgeon in the state or tgeee group ig. but its medical so idk. i got to them on the 29th should i express my concerns on ascetics

That I can’t tell. You need to ask your surgeon how many mm will the advancement be. It will be a difference, most people won’t be able to tell but you will see a difference

 

[kranerman23123]

Understandable. If I’m not mistaken Liam only designs the implants and sometimes assists with the surgeries in turkey or Italy. I get what you mean like you wouldn’t trust someone to operate on your face that talks about bisexual porn on .org. I personally think he’s trusthworthy, idk why people expect ,,doctors” to not have an outside life

Well personally, I don't really see it as an outside life, I see it as elaborate marketing.

 

[luca_.]

Well personally, I don't really see it as an outside life, I see it as elaborate marketing.

I could say thats the opposite of marketing. Less people would trust him if they knew he shitposts on an incel forum

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

That I can’t tell. You need to ask your surgeon how many mm will the advancement be. It will be a difference, most people won’t be able to tell but you will see a difference

damn that’s unfortunate. i was under the assumption i was gonna look really good after. how many mm for it to be noticeable

 

[esoterik]

idk he just gives me the heeby jeebies and im gonna trust my gut

So iyo should I look around this forum for recommended surgeons in USA (so I can use my referral) or just shop myself for one locally based off what they recommend for me?

if ur relying on insurance, it doesn't matter where you go, usa has extremely strict rules with surgery, and what is covered, how it should be done, etc, you dont have much say in it

 

[ltn_looksminner]

surgery plan > surgeon as long as surgeon is experienced

 

[luca_.]

damn that’s unfortunate. i was under the assumption i was gonna look really good after. how many mm for it to be noticeable

It will be noticeable either way. It could go from 5mm to 10mm (talking about the maxilla now)

 

[kranerman23123]

if ur relying on insurance, it doesn't matter where you go, usa has extremely strict rules with surgery, and what is covered, how it should be done, etc, you dont have much say in it

well shit, its like a 50k+ surgery in usa without insurance

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

It will be noticeable either way. It could go from 5mm to 10mm (talking about the maxilla now)

should i express my concerns and push for 7-8

 

[esoterik]

well shit, its like a 50k+ surgery in usa without insurance

then dont do it in usa, go to italy and consult pag or ram

 

[MaxillaMunter96]

then dont do it in usa, go to italy and consult pag or ram

idk how you would know by the surgeon doing mine is Dr Vincent Novelli, or Dr Diamond

 

[luca_.]

should i express my concerns and push for 7-8

Try to talk to your surgeon, orthodontist and see what they recommend. I’m not a professional and I don’t know your current situation, they should have more insight. Either way good luck with your surgery bhai I hope it goes good, I recommend you take before and after pictures

 

[kranerman23123]

idk how you would know by the surgeon doing mine is Dr Vincent Novelli, or Dr Diamond

careful