Does marpe have a positive effect in aesthethics

[anondude]

Ive seen people say its good and bad and that it causes clockwise rotation should i get it if i have the option

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

what do you look like and ill tell you

 

[anondude]

On my profile theres a good few

what do you look like and ill tell you

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

On my profile theres a good few

send here i cant check

 

[anondude]

Im on a laptop ans this is the only one of me here but its not a great one

send here i cant check

 

[Genio]

Ive seen people say its good and bad and that it causes clockwise rotation should i get it if i have the option

Check your FWHR first. MARPE can help with bizygomatic width, which in turn shifts the FWHR ratio. If your FWHR is below 2 then, yes, it may be something worth looking into. If it is already above 2, I would be more cautious, otherwise you risk widening the face beyond its vertical balance, leaving it broader than it is long, which is exactly the issue I deal with myself.

You also cannot really walk into a dentistry department and ask for “one MARPE please.” It has to come after an actual diagnosis and a proper orthodontic assessment. The real question is whether there is a legitimate skeletal or airway indication for it, because without that, most competent orthos will shut it down immediately. Mine certainly did; BAMP shut down. Find a Cosmetic Ortho who may seem incompetent and convince him you have Sleep Apnea would be your best bet (that is, if you don't have a Maxillary Issue)

 

[anondude]

Check your FWHR first. MARPE can help with bizygomatic width, which in turn shifts the FWHR ratio. If your FWHR is below 2 then, yes, it may be something worth looking into. If it is already above 2, I would be more cautious, otherwise you risk widening the face beyond its vertical balance, leaving it broader than it is long, which is exactly the issue I deal with myself.

You also cannot really walk into a dentistry department and ask for “one MARPE please.” It has to come after an actual diagnosis and a proper orthodontic assessment. The real question is whether there is a legitimate skeletal or airway indication for it, because without that, most competent orthos will shut it down immediately. Mine certainly did; BAMP shut down. Find a Cosmetic Ortho who may seem incompetent and convince him you have Sleep Apnea would be your best bet (that is, if you don't have a Maxillary Issue)

I have a pretty long face like a 1.46 i think ill check acrually but i literally can breath quitly through my nose so its pretty constricted

 

[anondude]

1.79 fwhr sorry

 

[Genio]

I have a pretty long face like a 1.46 i think ill check acrually but i literally can breath quitly through my nose so its pretty constricted

Incel.solutions seem pretty accurate, though I have heard Contradictory Remark's, my Ratio's seem consistent in all pic's I take. I would recommend checking a few picture's and see what your FWHR is across most of them (if there is any change).

If my answer helped you get to your solution, I would appreciate marking my post as Solution above, it's the tick on the far right.

 

[Genio]

1.79 fwhr sorry

MARPE would, in that case, be really beneficial. I would get a Cephalometric Scan before consulting for MARPE, to see whether Suture's have fused yet or not, if Sutures have fused, then you would need SARPE, a Surgical Seperation of the Sutures before getting any appliance placed.

 

[anondude]

Wdym incel.solutions?

 

[Sujumh]

case specific dude
do u have a brain?

 

[anondude]

MARPE would, in that case, be really beneficial. I would get a Cephalometric Scan before consulting for MARPE, to see whether Suture's have fused yet or not, if Sutures have fused, then you would need SARPE, a Surgical Seperation of the Sutures before getting any appliance placed.

Ye im 16 so there is a chance

 

[Aldi]

for most, no

why would u want 2 only expand ur upper palate. frank tufano made an in detail vid about marpe

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Im on a laptop ans this is the only one of me here but its not a great one

FME with newaz ur midface is long already and owuld get raped by MARPE

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

MARPE would, in that case, be really beneficial. I would get a Cephalometric Scan before consulting for MARPE, to see whether Suture's have fused yet or not, if Sutures have fused, then you would need SARPE, a Surgical Seperation of the Sutures before getting any appliance placed.

BRo jesus christ stop fucking yapping

SARPE is a device not the name of a piezo cut

 

[Iblame2023]

It depends

some peoples gonions can come inwards and it also makes nose bigger

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Check your FWHR first. MARPE can help with bizygomatic width, which in turn shifts the FWHR ratio. If your FWHR is below 2 then, yes, it may be something worth looking into. If it is already above 2, I would be more cautious, otherwise you risk widening the face beyond its vertical balance, leaving it broader than it is long, which is exactly the issue I deal with myself.

You also cannot really walk into a dentistry department and ask for “one MARPE please.” It has to come after an actual diagnosis and a proper orthodontic assessment. The real question is whether there is a legitimate skeletal or airway indication for it, because without that, most competent orthos will shut it down immediately. Mine certainly did; BAMP shut down. Find a Cosmetic Ortho who may seem incompetent and convince him you have Sleep Apnea would be your best bet (that is, if you don't have a Maxillary Issue)

If you even looked at his face you would know a MARPE would literally make him more subhuman you retard

 

[Genio]

BRo jesus christ stop fucking yapping

SARPE is a device not the name of a piezo cut

Wish they could add a vote-suspend system here, would keep out Autists like you.

SARPE start's off with a Surgical Seperation of the Palatal Suture before the Expansion Device is placed, Rarely do they place it during Surgery to help in Suture-Seperation. After the Suture has been split, they add the Expansion Device to test that the Suture has been Successfully seperated, This is why I recommended the Cephalometric Scan in the first place, to test if a SARPE would be better of a MARPE

Spoiler: Spoiler

Additionally, I have no clue why you decide to shit on MARPE but still recommend a Maxillary Widening Appliance, since both do the exact same fucking thing; Except one is Screwed to the Maxillary Bones, and the other is Tooth-borne, Your probably talking about an additional 2mm gain with an FME when we don't even know his Suture Maturity.

FME has no long-term evidence, and people are still under the impression that "more = better" when SARPE has been the Standardized Treatment for over decades and MARPE has been created for Children and Pubertal Adolescents, Both are going to widen his Upper Palette just as much, no clue what you mean by "a MARPE would literally make him more subhuman you retard" if a FME is going to do the exact same process.

You are exceptionally retarded if you expect a Teenager to be able to travel to Michigan or all the way to Malaysia to get an FME with Dr. Zubad Newaz or Dr. Murtaza Jaffari or even convince their Parent's to get it for them when there is no air-way issue to begin with.

I mean, you used an AI detector to try to make it seem like I was using AI, so it was pretty clear from the start that you’re cognitively slow. PS: people with a good vocabulary or strong grammar are not automatically using AI. Shocking that not everyone relies on ad hominem's as an argument

In B4 "DNR faggot retard" @Sayori @egyptiansub5

 

[Sayori]

Wish they could add a vote-suspend system here, would keep out Autists like you.

SARPE start's off with a Surgical Seperation of the Palatal Suture before the Expansion Device is placed, Rarely do they place it during Surgery to help in Suture-Seperation. After the Suture has been split, they add the Expansion Device to test that the Suture has been Successfully seperated, This is why I recommended the Cephalometric Scan in the first place, to test if a SARPE would be better of a MARPE

Spoiler: Spoiler

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Additionally, I have no clue why you decide to shit on MARPE but still recommend a Maxillary Widening Appliance, since both do the exact same fucking thing; Except one is Screwed to the Maxillary Bones, and the other is Tooth-borne, Your probably talking about an additional 2mm gain with an FME when we don't even know his Suture Maturity.

FME has no long-term evidence, and people are still under the impression that "more = better" when SARPE has been the Standardized Treatment for over decades and MARPE has been created for Children and Pubertal Adolescents, Both are going to widen his Upper Palette just as much, no clue what you mean by "a MARPE would literally make him more subhuman you retard" if a FME is going to do the exact same process.

You are exceptionally retarded if you expect a Teenager to be able to travel to Michigan or all the way to Malaysia to get an FME with Dr. Zubad Newaz or Dr. Murtaza Jaffari or even convince their Parent's to get it for them when there is no air-way issue to begin with.

I mean, you used an AI detector to try to make it seem like I was using AI, so it was pretty clear from the start that you’re cognitively slow. PS: people with a good vocabulary or strong grammar are not automatically using AI. Shocking that not everyone relies on ad hominem's as an argument

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In B4 "DNR faggot retard" @Sayori @egyptiansub5

USELESS TOPIC TBh unless one can afford it

 

[Genio]

USELESS TOPIC TBh unless one can afford it

fairs, Surgery will always be better than Ortho.

 

[egyptiansub5]

Wish they could add a vote-suspend system here, would keep out Autists like you.

SARPE start's off with a Surgical Seperation of the Palatal Suture before the Expansion Device is placed, Rarely do they place it during Surgery to help in Suture-Seperation. After the Suture has been split, they add the Expansion Device to test that the Suture has been Successfully seperated, This is why I recommended the Cephalometric Scan in the first place, to test if a SARPE would be better of a MARPE

Spoiler: Spoiler

View attachment 4893917

Additionally, I have no clue why you decide to shit on MARPE but still recommend a Maxillary Widening Appliance, since both do the exact same fucking thing; Except one is Screwed to the Maxillary Bones, and the other is Tooth-borne, Your probably talking about an additional 2mm gain with an FME when we don't even know his Suture Maturity.

FME has no long-term evidence, and people are still under the impression that "more = better" when SARPE has been the Standardized Treatment for over decades and MARPE has been created for Children and Pubertal Adolescents, Both are going to widen his Upper Palette just as much, no clue what you mean by "a MARPE would literally make him more subhuman you retard" if a FME is going to do the exact same process.

You are exceptionally retarded if you expect a Teenager to be able to travel to Michigan or all the way to Malaysia to get an FME with Dr. Zubad Newaz or Dr. Murtaza Jaffari or even convince their Parent's to get it for them when there is no air-way issue to begin with.

I mean, you used an AI detector to try to make it seem like I was using AI, so it was pretty clear from the start that you’re cognitively slow. PS: people with a good vocabulary or strong grammar are not automatically using AI. Shocking that not everyone relies on ad hominem's as an argument

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In B4 "DNR faggot retard" @Sayori @egyptiansub5

so smart

 

[johndoe_]

No, they dont most of the time. Look into marpe reddit threads, before and afters etc.
You‘ll see it does barely anything for most.