Does s.c Test P mog IM?

[Linus1888]

Id think a subcutaneous injection of Testosterone Propionate would mog and Intramuscular one.

Theres not any proof on the diffrences with studies i belive but if we expect the same result from other esters then the slower release in the subcutaenous injection should mog im right?

@chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas @imontheloose

 

[aids]

Inferior absorption.

 

[Linus1888]

Inferior absorption.

"Total testosterone exposure was comparable with subcutaneous versus i.m. injection"

Pharmacokinetics, safety, and patient acceptability of subcutaneous versus intramuscular testosterone injection for gender-affirming therapy: A pilot study - PubMed

The subcutaneous route for the injection of testosterone was well tolerated and appeared to be as effective as i.m. injection in delivering equivalent TST levels, although there was wide intrapatient and interpatient variability.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I mean this is a pretty shit study but dosent s.c. just release the hormones slower? Ithought absorption would be the same

 

[aids]

"Total testosterone exposure was comparable with subcutaneous versus i.m. injection"

Pharmacokinetics, safety, and patient acceptability of subcutaneous versus intramuscular testosterone injection for gender-affirming therapy: A pilot study - PubMed

The subcutaneous route for the injection of testosterone was well tolerated and appeared to be as effective as i.m. injection in delivering equivalent TST levels, although there was wide intrapatient and interpatient variability.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I mean this is a pretty shit study but dosent s.c. just release the hormones slower? Ithought absorption would be the same

I will read.

 

[4ever]

Are you getting blood work?

 

[aids]

"Total testosterone exposure was comparable with subcutaneous versus i.m. injection"

Pharmacokinetics, safety, and patient acceptability of subcutaneous versus intramuscular testosterone injection for gender-affirming therapy: A pilot study - PubMed

The subcutaneous route for the injection of testosterone was well tolerated and appeared to be as effective as i.m. injection in delivering equivalent TST levels, although there was wide intrapatient and interpatient variability.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I mean this is a pretty shit study but dosent s.c. just release the hormones slower? Ithought absorption would be the same

Inferior absorption i.e., inferior absorption rate.
The appeal of test p is the fact it's a short ester. Injecting subq removes the appeal of p.

 

[Linus1888]

Are you getting blood work?

Im checking my testosterone twice, from 8:00-10
then im checking my LH, FSH, Prolactin and SHBG.

To check if i have hypogonadism rn from my lgd4033 cycle

maybe also E2

 

[Linus1888]

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Inferior absorption i.e., inferior absorption rate.
The appeal of test p is the fact it's a short ester. Injecting subq removes the appeal of p.

https://academic.oup.com/ajhp/article-abstract/75/6/351/5102336?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

Idk if im interpreting this wrong but this sounds like test p gets magically transformed into a longer ester trough a s.c. injection.

s.c. slows down the absorption a bit but pretty much the same dosage "arrives" in the end.


So there still wouldnt be any side effects like acne from instable hormones as the peaks are also smoother from the s.c.. Imo this would be the best way to go with test as a looksmaxxer

 

[ybuyhgui]

Idk if im interpreting this wrong but this sounds like test p gets magically transformed into a longer ester trough a s.c. injection.

The whole point of doing test p is that it's a short ester, if you want a long ester just use something like test e

 

[Linus1888]

The whole point is that it doesn’t become a long ester, if longer were better you'd use something like test e

yeah youre right, sc dosent make propionate a long ester.

sc mainly changes the absorption rate at the depot so has a slightly flatter peak and a slightly later Tmax.

its still a short ester though so i would still need daily injection to maintain stable hormone levels, sc may stretch the curve a bit but not enough to behave like enanthate

 

[aids]

The whole point of doing test p is that it's a short ester, if you want a long ester just use something like test e

This.

 

[Linus1888]

This.

i responded to it

 

[jayden123]

Id think a subcutaneous injection of Testosterone Propionate would mog and Intramuscular one.

Theres not any proof on the diffrences with studies i belive but if we expect the same result from other esters then the slower release in the subcutaenous injection should mog im right?

@chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas @imontheloose

IM is just easier for higher doses, no difference really just pref