Does testosterone affect bone development even past puberty?

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One thing that I have been questioning a lot the past few weeks is whether or not testosterone can affect the skeletal structure of the face (maybe even other bones) even past puberty. It is not a foreign concept to me that high testosterone during puberty will have a huge impact on your skeletal development both in the face and the rest of the body. But I always see these body builders with really prominent brow ridges and cheekbones. Some of them openly and some of them secretly take steroids, and they are always the ones with these fascinating bone structures, and I do not think this is a coincidence.

I have done some research on it and there is some evidence that points to the fact that higher doses of testosterone and other anabolic steroids might be able to promote bone growth in the face. The ideas and stories I have heard sounds pretty convincing. I remember some time ago when I was watching a certain Bradley Martin interview with Jon Zherka, where Zherka talked about his first experience with anabolic steroids. He was taking crazy doses of all kinds of hormones and other compounds in a really retarded way and combination that I am surprised that he is even alive. Though, Zherka said that 10 weeks or so after he first began this cycle, he decided to stop taking steroids but that he had noticed remarkable changes in his jawline, his browridge was more prominent and his face was overall more defined. And this is only one of the few anecdotes that I remember

I wonder whether any of you have any experiences with testosterone improving facial structure.
 
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Yes but to a very small degree. It’s highly unlikely you would be on gear for 10 weeks as an adult and notice some facial masculinization. You would have to be a crazy hyper responder.
 
One thing that I have been questioning a lot the past few weeks is whether or not testosterone can affect the skeletal structure of the face (maybe even other bones) even past puberty. It is not a foreign concept to me that high testosterone during puberty will have a huge impact on your skeletal development both in the face and the rest of the body. But I always see these body builders with really prominent brow ridges and cheekbones. Some of them openly and some of them secretly take steroids, and they are always the ones with these fascinating bone structures, and I do not think this is a coincidence.

I have done some research on it and there is some evidence that points to the fact that higher doses of testosterone and other anabolic steroids might be able to promote bone growth in the face. The ideas and stories I have heard sounds pretty convincing. I remember some time ago when I was watching a certain Bradley Martin interview with Jon Zherka, where Zherka talked about his first experience with anabolic steroids. He was taking crazy doses of all kinds of hormones and other compounds in a really retarded way and combination that I am surprised that he is even alive. Though, Zherka said that 10 weeks or so after he first began this cycle, he decided to stop taking steroids but that he had noticed remarkable changes in his jawline, his browridge was more prominent and his face was overall more defined. And this is only one of the few anecdotes that I remember

I wonder whether any of you have any experiences with testosterone improving facial structure.
I don't know, I'm a femboy.
 

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Roids don't grow your bones past puberty (or during puberty for that matter)

You can expect maturation of soft tissue and hypertrophy of facial muscles which gives the impression of bone growth/development
 
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depends on how you react
 
One thing that I have been questioning a lot the past few weeks is whether or not testosterone can affect the skeletal structure of the face (maybe even other bones) even past puberty. It is not a foreign concept to me that high testosterone during puberty will have a huge impact on your skeletal development both in the face and the rest of the body. But I always see these body builders with really prominent brow ridges and cheekbones. Some of them openly and some of them secretly take steroids, and they are always the ones with these fascinating bone structures, and I do not think this is a coincidence.

I have done some research on it and there is some evidence that points to the fact that higher doses of testosterone and other anabolic steroids might be able to promote bone growth in the face. The ideas and stories I have heard sounds pretty convincing. I remember some time ago when I was watching a certain Bradley Martin interview with Jon Zherka, where Zherka talked about his first experience with anabolic steroids. He was taking crazy doses of all kinds of hormones and other compounds in a really retarded way and combination that I am surprised that he is even alive. Though, Zherka said that 10 weeks or so after he first began this cycle, he decided to stop taking steroids but that he had noticed remarkable changes in his jawline, his browridge was more prominent and his face was overall more defined. And this is only one of the few anecdotes that I remember

I wonder whether any of you have any experiences with testosterone improving facial structure.
yes but obviously only the diameter of the bones and their density will change given that puberty has finished
 
Might affect density, thats it
 
Yes but to a very small degree. It’s highly unlikely you would be on gear for 10 weeks as an adult and notice some facial masculinization. You would have to be a crazy hyper responder.
AR antagonists????
 
One thing that I have been questioning a lot the past few weeks is whether or not testosterone can affect the skeletal structure of the face (maybe even other bones) even past puberty. It is not a foreign concept to me that high testosterone during puberty will have a huge impact on your skeletal development both in the face and the rest of the body. But I always see these body builders with really prominent brow ridges and cheekbones. Some of them openly and some of them secretly take steroids, and they are always the ones with these fascinating bone structures, and I do not think this is a coincidence.

I have done some research on it and there is some evidence that points to the fact that higher doses of testosterone and other anabolic steroids might be able to promote bone growth in the face. The ideas and stories I have heard sounds pretty convincing. I remember some time ago when I was watching a certain Bradley Martin interview with Jon Zherka, where Zherka talked about his first experience with anabolic steroids. He was taking crazy doses of all kinds of hormones and other compounds in a really retarded way and combination that I am surprised that he is even alive. Though, Zherka said that 10 weeks or so after he first began this cycle, he decided to stop taking steroids but that he had noticed remarkable changes in his jawline, his browridge was more prominent and his face was overall more defined. And this is only one of the few anecdotes that I remember

I wonder whether any of you have any experiences with testosterone improving facial structure.
depends on genetics but not really
 
Those would make you an agender cuck
Key Steroids for Increased DHT Responsiveness and Masculinization:
  • Proviron (Mesterolone): A synthetic DHT derivative that acts as a direct, oral, and potent DHT mimic. It is often used to increase free androgen levels, improve libido, and enhance androgenic effects.
  • Masteron (Drostanolone): A derivative of DHT known for its strong androgenic properties, making it effective for increasing facial hair and skin masculinization.
  • Anadrol (Oxymetholone): While highly anabolic, it is also very androgenic and is known to drive significant masculinization.
  • Winstrol (Stanozolol): Known for its high androgenic activity in tissues, which can contribute to masculinization and facial hair growth.
  • Trenbolone: Although not a direct DHT derivative, it binds to androgen receptors more strongly than testosterone and acts as a powerful androgen, driving rapid masculinization and hair changes (e.g., scalp hair loss/hair miniaturization).
  • Anavar (Oxandrolone): A DHT derivative that binds to androgen receptors, promoting masculine characteristics.
Mechanism of Increased Responsiveness:
  • Direct DHT Derivatives: Compounds like Proviron and Masteron do not need to convert to DHT to produce androgenic effects; they are already in an active DHT-reduced state.
  • Increased Free Testosterone: By binding to Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG), compounds like Proviron release more free testosterone to be converted into DHT, raising overall DHT activity.
  • Androgen Receptor Sensitivity: These steroids have a high affinity for the androgen receptor, particularly in tissues responsible for male secondary characteristics (skin, facial hair follicles).
 
Key Steroids for Increased DHT Responsiveness and Masculinization:
  • Proviron (Mesterolone): A synthetic DHT derivative that acts as a direct, oral, and potent DHT mimic. It is often used to increase free androgen levels, improve libido, and enhance androgenic effects.
  • Masteron (Drostanolone): A derivative of DHT known for its strong androgenic properties, making it effective for increasing facial hair and skin masculinization.
  • Anadrol (Oxymetholone): While highly anabolic, it is also very androgenic and is known to drive significant masculinization.
  • Winstrol (Stanozolol): Known for its high androgenic activity in tissues, which can contribute to masculinization and facial hair growth.
  • Trenbolone: Although not a direct DHT derivative, it binds to androgen receptors more strongly than testosterone and acts as a powerful androgen, driving rapid masculinization and hair changes (e.g., scalp hair loss/hair miniaturization).
  • Anavar (Oxandrolone): A DHT derivative that binds to androgen receptors, promoting masculine characteristics.
Mechanism of Increased Responsiveness:
  • Direct DHT Derivatives: Compounds like Proviron and Masteron do not need to convert to DHT to produce androgenic effects; they are already in an active DHT-reduced state.
  • Increased Free Testosterone: By binding to Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG), compounds like Proviron release more free testosterone to be converted into DHT, raising overall DHT activity.
  • Androgen Receptor Sensitivity: These steroids have a high affinity for the androgen receptor, particularly in tissues responsible for male secondary characteristics (skin, facial hair follicles).
Those are agonists not antagonists
IMG 5132
 
wait so can androgen antagonists mak you more hyper repsoer
No, they would just make you not respond at all. Unless they are tissue selective, but those would still not increase your response.
 
No, they would just make you not respond at all. Unless they are tissue selective, but those would still not increase your response.
then what causes bodbulders to gain such big chins
 
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Androgen receptor agonists not antagonists. Along with the shitload of gh and insulin.
wait insulin causes bone growth?

ik gh with the acormelgay or cell turnover
ik it but how does insulin change or is just fat loss/fat gain distrubtion
 
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