DON'T DO TRT GUYS

[Deleted member 17611]

You'll only end up finding out you actually had chad genes that needed to be activated by some extra testosterone which your body didn't get during puberty because of bad nutrition, and you will ASCEND THE FUCK OUT OF THE VIRGIN ZONE.

ALSO notice how NONE of them lost hair.

 

[Deleted member 9670]

if you're prone to hairloss TRT will make you lose it

 

[Kroker]

What's TRT?

 

[Deleted member 9670]

What's TRT?

testosterone

 

[wollet2]

Are those supposed to be ascensions?

 

[Yliaster]

Are those supposed to be ascensions?

Only one who ascended from Bloatcel to Chadlite is the first guy,the rest of them are gonna get scraps on Dating Apps.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

Only one who ascended from Bloatcel to Chadlite is the first guy,the rest of them are gonna get scraps on Dating Apps.

Before TRT they wouldn't get a hobo bitch to suck their dick even if they paid hair

I say that's progress u fucking idiot

 

[AlexAP]

Only one who ascended from Bloatcel to Chadlite is the first guy,the rest of them are gonna get scraps on Dating Apps.

I think except the third guy, all of them ascended hard. And they will do better on dating apps than before.

 

[volcelfatcel]

no you retard this isnt a TRT result, this is a result of them losing weight

 

[AlexAP]

no you retard this isnt a TRT result, this is a result of them losing weight

Yes only the fifth I would suspect could have taken it, the others are just leanmaxxing results.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

yeah leanmaxxing mostly- test probs helps a bit but 95% of these results are jsut due to cardio and eating less

 

[Deleted member 17611]

no you retard this isnt a TRT result, this is a result of them losing weight

You're a faggot in denial.

Of course it's from losing weight, WITH THE HELP of TRT. Do you understand how TRT works? Anybody can lose weight, but losing weight on TRT is way different than normal weight loss.

I'm not even gonna talk about the masculinization effects TRT has on the face, studies have proven it affects the way facial body fat is distributed, therefore making your face subtly look more masculine.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

Yes only the fifth I would suspect could have taken it, the others are just leanmaxxing results.

I literally took them from the TRT subreddit posted by the guys themselves.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

yeah leanmaxxing mostly- test probs helps a bit but 95% of these results are jsut due to cardio and eating less

no you retard this isnt a TRT result, this is a result of them losing weight

You stupid niggas out here denying the most ANABOLIC & ANDROGENIC hormone on planet earth.

Do u understand how retarded and low IQ u guys sound?

 

[volcelfatcel]

You're a faggot in denial.

Of course it's from losing weight, WITH THE HELP of TRT. Do you understand how TRT works? Anybody can lose weight, but losing weight on TRT is way different than normal weight loss.

I'm not even gonna talk about the masculinization effects TRT has on the face, studies have proven it affects the way facial body fat is distributed, therefore making your face subtly look more masculine.

You stupid niggas out here denying the most ANABOLIC & ANDROGENIC hormone on planet earth.

Do u understand how retarded and low IQ u guys sound?

nigger, you talk about revealing chad genes, it doesnt reveal shit they could have gotten the same results off and on TRT if they lost weight.
you aren't gonna grow bones or anything from trt, it's just a way to make weight loss easier

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You stupid niggas out here denying the most ANABOLIC & ANDROGENIC hormone on planet earth.

Do u understand how retarded and low IQ u guys sound?

ive literally taken it. These guy are fat in their before and not fat in their after, you dont need steroids to lose weight

 

[Deleted member 17611]

Look at this guy's transformation.

Let alone the body, look at that full beard he just got, the more masuline looking face.

You fucking losers are denying basic human biology.

Testosterone = muscles, masculinity, virility etc. It has been proven by 1 million studies already. Fucking retards.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

nigger, you talk about revealing chad genes, it doesnt reveal shit they could have gotten the same results off and on TRT if they lost weight.
you aren't gonna grow bones or anything from trt, it's just a way to make weight loss easier

You're a fucking idiot I swear to god.

It has been proven many times that some guys have been testosterone-depleted during puberty because of various reasons, including poor nutrition, some diseases and shit like that.

The moment they take some test their masculizination process begins from where it left off during teenage years. Most guys here are probably susceptible to low T levels during puberty. It's highly plausible that it might help them tremendously, besides the basic effects T has even on guys who went through normal puberty.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

ive literally taken it. These guy are fat in their before and not fat in their after, you dont need steroids to lose weight

You're dumb.

Of course you don't need TRT to lose weight. If they would've went through the weight loss process without TRT, they wouldn't have kept such a large amount of muscles. You lose muscles when you cut heavy, not when you're on TRT tho.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

nigger, you talk about revealing chad genes, it doesnt reveal shit they could have gotten the same results off and on TRT if they lost weight.
you aren't gonna grow bones or anything from trt, it's just a way to make weight loss easier

No offense, but you don't know what you're taking about.

Leanmaxxing on trt and Leanmaxxing naturally are completely different.

Dieting naturally will tank your natty test levels and you'll lose tons of muscle if you have anything more than 15 lbs of fat to lose. Furthermore, trt will tell your body to store fat in male fat regions, like the buttocks and sides of thighs and upper pecs and even shoulders, instead of love handles and lower chest and etc. It will also change bone density which is factual, and I'm sure masseters would grow on it even.

 

[Deleted member 17542]

I will start TRT and more if I ever reach NW2, I'll just give up on hair and gymmax then. I am gymcelled naturally already.

 

[volcelfatcel]

No offense, but you don't know what you're taking about.

Leanmaxxing on trt and Leanmaxxing naturally are completely different.

Dieting naturally will tank your natty test levels and you'll lose tons of muscle if you have anything more than 15 lbs of fat to lose. Furthermore, trt will tell your body to store fat in male fat regions, like the buttocks and sides of thighs and upper pecs and even shoulders, instead of love handles and lower chest and etc. It will also change bone density which is factual, and I'm sure masseters would grow on it even.

it's just a way to make weight loss easier

its an easier way to lose weight with instant results

in the end the biggest change was their face leanness which can be done naturally
this entire thread is just lifefuel to leanmmax

 

[Deleted member 17611]

No offense, but you don't know what you're taking about.

Leanmaxxing on trt and Leanmaxxing naturally are completely different.

Dieting naturally will tank your natty test levels and you'll lose tons of muscle if you have anything more than 15 lbs of fat to lose. Furthermore, trt will tell your body to store fat in male fat regions, like the buttocks and sides of thighs and upper pecs and even shoulders, instead of love handles and lower chest and etc. It will also change bone density which is factual, and I'm sure masseters would grow on it even.

You're speaking pure facts.

They pretty much denying the most important hormone that separates men from women. Take testosterone away from a man and he's just a bitch with a dick.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I will start TRT and more if I ever reach NW2, I'll just give up on hair and gymmax then. I am gymcelled naturally already.

If you actually do trt and not blast then all you're doing is making your t levels not fluctuate due to things like shitty sleep or bad diet. Seeing as how alopecia is frequently caused by unstable hormones, this could even help stop hair loss. The contributions to dht related hair loss should be minimal since you're not going to go much above your natural levels. You could theoretically even match your natty levels with trt perfectly if you wanted.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

its an easier way to lose weight with instant results

in the end the biggest change was their face leanness which can be done naturally
this entire thread is just lifefuel to leanmmax

Nah you're just a low iq retard in denail at this point.

There's this study out there that got a group of natty men WHO WORKED OUT DAILY, and a group of TRT men that didn't workout, just did nothing all day - at the end, the TRT group gained more muscle than the natty guys who worked out daily. The TRT guys not only gained more muscle, but they LOST MORE FAT, by just sitting at home.

The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in normal men - PubMed

Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Deleted member 15310]

they couldnt of had chad genes because they needed to inject testosterone, idiot. Chads are high t straight from their own balls

 

[Deleted member 12002]

You'll only end up finding out you actually had chad genes that needed to be activated by some extra testosterone which your body didn't get during puberty because of bad nutrition, and you will ASCEND THE FUCK OUT OF THE VIRGIN ZONE.

ALSO notice how NONE of them lost hair.

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Yeah, I'm not doing none of that crap.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

Nah you're just a low iq retard in denail at this point.

There's this study out there that got a group of natty men WHO WORKED OUT DAILY, and a group of TRT men that didn't workout, just did nothing all day - at the end, the TRT group gained more muscle than the natty guys who worked out daily. The TRT guys not only gained more muscle, but they LOST MORE FAT, by just sitting at home.

The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in normal men - PubMed

Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

While trt is great, that study doesn't account for enhances glycogen and nitrogen retention - which is where the that "extra muscle" comes from. It's not likely to be much actual contractile tissue.

Still though, it will make your muscles pop more.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Nah you're just a low iq retard in denail at this point.

There's this study out there that got a group of natty men WHO WORKED OUT DAILY, and a group of TRT men that didn't workout, just did nothing all day - at the end, the TRT group gained more muscle than the natty guys who worked out daily. The TRT guys not only gained more muscle, but they LOST MORE FAT, by just sitting at home.

The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in normal men - PubMed

Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

im not sure if this is hard to understand but TRT made it indirectly easier to lose weight because with testosterone you make muscle and muscle is very consuming on calories demanded @RealLooksmaxxer said it perfectly past puberty its an easier way to lose weight and maintain muscle but it's not gonna grow you bones, you say it revealed their chad genes almost like they grew bone and a huge jaw from it lmao when in reality all they did which was also achievable naturally was to just eat less than what their body demands you fucking brainlet greycel

 

[volcelfatcel]

Nah you're just a low iq retard in denail at this point.

There's this study out there that got a group of natty men WHO WORKED OUT DAILY, and a group of TRT men that didn't workout, just did nothing all day - at the end, the TRT group gained more muscle than the natty guys who worked out daily. The TRT guys not only gained more muscle, but they LOST MORE FAT, by just sitting at home.

The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in normal men - PubMed

Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

While trt is great, that study doesn't account for enhances glycogen and nitrogen retention - which is where the that "extra muscle" comes from. It's not likely to be much actual contractile tissue.

Still though, it will make your muscles pop more.

TRT is cope for 99% of incels in this site unless they have a wide frame or are still in puberty, and even with wide frame it doesnt matter if their facial base is bad to start with I.E bug eyed ethnic or bald

edit: and tall height which with size and muscles can compensate for bad face

 

[Br0sk1]

Nah you're just a low iq retard in denail at this point.

There's this study out there that got a group of natty men WHO WORKED OUT DAILY, and a group of TRT men that didn't workout, just did nothing all day - at the end, the TRT group gained more muscle than the natty guys who worked out daily. The TRT guys not only gained more muscle, but they LOST MORE FAT, by just sitting at home.

The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in normal men - PubMed

Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is involving supraphysiological doses of testosterone, not a true, therapeutic TRT dose (100-150 mg max) which is only ever intended to put very low test men near the upper end of the reference range for testosterone.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

TRT is cope for 99% of incels in this site unless they have a wide frame or are still in puberty, and even with wide frame it doesnt matter if their facial base is bad to start with I.E bug eyed ethnic or bald

edit: and tall height which with size and muscles can compensate for bad face

At worst, TRT is a way to minimize negative effects of hormonal fluctuation, which can be a great lifemaxx/looksmax in general. That's very different from blasting.

 

[Deleted member 17611]

TRT is cope for 99% of incels in this site unless they have a wide frame or are still in puberty, and even with wide frame it doesnt matter if their facial base is bad to start with I.E bug eyed ethnic or bald

edit: and tall height which with size and muscles can compensate for bad face

This is the most retarded thinking ever.

What you're saying is that pretty much if you don't have wide frame or you have bug eyes, you should just give up and kill yourself.

Ugly bug-eyed & skinny bitch is still worse than Ugly bug-eyed & muscular.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

no you retard this isnt a TRT result, this is a result of them losing weight

Uses untrained vs trained pics ffs

 

[Br0sk1]

At worst, TRT is a way to minimize negative effects of hormonal fluctuation, which can be a great lifemaxx/looksmax in general. That's very different from blasting.

Also, everything I've looked into on TRT suggests that it has minimal effects on gains even for guys who would move from 200 to 1000 ng/dl using it. It seems to be more for boosting mood/libido etc. and just generally improving one's quality of life if you're feeling depressed and lethargic from having low T (not a worthless thing by any means!).

 

[Deleted member 17611]

im not sure if this is hard to understand but TRT made it indirectly easier to lose weight because with testosterone you make muscle and muscle is very consuming on calories demanded @RealLooksmaxxer said it perfectly past puberty its an easier way to lose weight and maintain muscle but it's not gonna grow you bones, you say it revealed their chad genes almost like they grew bone and a huge jaw from it lmao when in reality all they did which was also achievable naturally was to just eat less than what their body demands you fucking brainlet greycel

If you've been depleted of testosterone during puberty, taking TRT during adulthood will continue the process of masculinization, even in adulthood. Proven.

Testosterone also changes the way fat is distributed in the face to subtly make you look more masculine. Also proven.

Also, testosterone is not all about body. It's the masculinity hormone. It makes you horny, motivated, energetic, it can work as an anti-depressant, it helps with anxiety. It's what makes a man a man. Most people are not only ugly, they're also neurotic as fuck. It can help.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Uses untrained vs trained pics ffs

just gymmax and leanmax theory w/ trt boost to make it faster

 

[Deleted member 9670]

TRT is cope for 99% of incels in this site unless they have a wide frame or are still in puberty, and even with wide frame it doesnt matter if their facial base is bad to start with I.E bug eyed ethnic or bald

edit: and tall height which with size and muscles can compensate for bad face

If you're tall then it's not cope and everything matters.

I don't think test is a good idea tho cuz it's shit for your hair and skin. Only a good idea if you use steroids that don't rape ur skin and hair

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Nah you're just a low iq retard in denail at this point.

There's this study out there that got a group of natty men WHO WORKED OUT DAILY, and a group of TRT men that didn't workout, just did nothing all day - at the end, the TRT group gained more muscle than the natty guys who worked out daily. The TRT guys not only gained more muscle, but they LOST MORE FAT, by just sitting at home.

The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in normal men - PubMed

Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the title little says 'supraphysicalogical' which literally by defintion is not TRT

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Also, everything I've looked into on TRT suggests that it has minimal effects on gains even for guys who would move from 200 to 1000 ng/dl using it. It seems to be more for boosting mood/libido etc. and just generally improving one's quality of life if you're feeling depressed and lethargic from having low T (not a worthless thing by any means!).

this is correct, the difference between say average test levels and above average test levels for muslce building are fairly minimal- thats why bodybuilders take so much for the muscle building effects, TRT is a quality of life thing

 

[Br0sk1]

this is correct, the difference between say average test levels and above average test levels for muslce building are fairly minimal- thats why bodybuilders take so much for the muscle building effects, TRT is a quality of life thing

And in the case of Mr. Olympia open bodybuilding sized guys, it's not unheard of for guys to be taking 5, 6 or even 10 grams of test (or the equivalent of that in other substances) plus IGF-1 and HGH.

Dallas McCarver's autopsy suggested he was using 10 grams of test to reach his size in conjunction with other stuff.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

And in the case of Mr. Olympia open bodybuilding sized guys, it's not unheard of for guys to be taking 5, 6 or even 10 grams of test (or the equivalent of that in other substances) plus IGF-1 and HGH.

Dallas McCarver's autopsy suggested he was using 10 grams of test to reach his size in conjunction with other stuff.

Yes it takes a lot for rreally significant muscle building effects. Those before and afters in the OP are down to diet and excercise, not drugs. If youve actually got low test TRT is a good thing dont get me wrong- but not much point fir a normie to get on it if your test levels are fine

 

[Deleted member 17611]

Yes it takes a lot for rreally significant muscle building effects. Those before and afters in the OP are down to diet and excercise, not drugs. If youve actually got low test TRT is a good thing dont get me wrong- but not much point fir a normie to get on it if your test levels are fine

Bro just do TRT for a few months and you'll agree with me eventually

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Bro just do TRT for a few months and you'll agree with me eventually

ive literally done it