Dylan McKnightmaxxing?

[johnsmithcel]

Is it worth turning into a bloated gorilla for a year or two to then lean down and have a mogger physique? I hate cutting because I know i'm just maintaining as much muscle as I can instead of building more. I wanna be huge.

 

[Cares]

You don’t need to bloatmax if you roidmax. Look how lean most bodybuilders are year round and they still get bigger

 

[Deleted member 23022]

Dirty Bulking is retarded. You should focus on gaining 1-2 pounds per month when bulking, unless running a cycle. 1lb of lean muscle mass is (generally) the most you can gain when bulking, the rest of your "gains" are fat & water that you will have to cut later.

You should try to be in a caloric surplus of 2-300 calories per day for optimal lean bulking. This should lead to you gaining about 2 pounds per month.

If you want to run a 500 test cycle (or something similar) I would recommend a 800 caloric surplus per day, so that you can about 5 pounds per month, most of which will be lean muscle.

 

[johnsmithcel]

You should focus on gaining 1-2 pounds per month when bulking,

and generally you can safely lose that same amount per week when cutting, right? So if I bulk for 6 months, cutting should take me around 6 weeks before I can start bulking again?

 

[5OuttaTen]

I remember I subscribed to him back in the early days of his bulk. All the bro science in his vids was insane but somehow he made it work

 

[Deleted member 23022]

and generally you can safely lose that same amount per week when cutting, right? So if I bulk for 6 months, cutting should take me around 6 weeks before I can start bulking again?

I don't know your exact situation. It depends on your body fat % muscle mass, diet, and a bunch of other smaller things. But in general:

You should aim to bulk by gaining 2lbs per month (if Natty) by being in 300 calorie surplus.

You can lose fat 3-4x as quickly as you can build muscle (on average). I typically recommend a 500 calories deficit for cutting --> try to lose 5 pounds per month in order to lose the most amount of body fat and least amount of muscle.

 

[lebronjames23]

He roided for sure

 

[Tonymontana]

If you want to be the biggest and most jacked you could possibly be natty, long and aggressive (even dirty) bulks are mandatory.

The downside is you will spend a large portion of your life (3-5 years) bloated, fat, and a lot less attractive to women than if you stayed lean all the time.

While if you stayed lean, and just ate off appetite with a good clean diet instead of deliberately bulking, you will absolutely slow down progress. But with patience, you can get a lean athletic physique that still looks good. Just wont be as big as you would be had you commited to bulks.

Imo, you should stay lean and sacrifice a bit of potential muscle you could build so you look good all the time. Which will actually benefit your dating life vs you sacrificing your looks for long periods of time just for some extra muscle.

Also, if you really just love the idea of being big, take roids. Then you can actually stay lean yearround while getting huge

 

[5.5psl]

If you want to run a 500 test cycle (or something similar) I would recommend a 800 caloric surplus per day, so that you can about 5 pounds per month, most of which will be lean muscle.

On 500 mg you won't gain 5 pounds in a month's if you train very hard and eat enough protein you can easily take it to a 10

 

[johnsmithcel]

If you want to be the biggest and most jacked you could possibly be natty, long and aggressive (even dirty) bulks are mandatory.

The downside is you will spend a large portion of your life (3-5 years) bloated, fat, and a lot less attractive to women than if you stayed lean all the time.

While if you stayed lean, and just ate off appetite with a good clean diet instead of deliberately bulking, you will absolutely slow down progress. But with patience, you can get a lean athletic physique that still looks good. Just wont be as big as you would be had you commited to bulks.

Imo, you should stay lean and sacrifice a bit of potential muscle you could build so you look good all the time. Which will actually benefit your dating life vs you sacrificing your looks for long periods of time just for some extra muscle.

Also, if you really just love the idea of being big, take roids. Then you can actually stay lean yearround while getting huge

I probably will do a 500mg cycle eventually after a few years natty.

 

[Deleted member 23022]

On 500 mg you won't gain 5 pounds in a month's if you train very hard and eat enough protein you can easily take it to a 10

It depends, people react to gear differently. My first cycle I ran for 12 weeks and I gained 10lbs of lean muscle - 13lbs overall.

If you go straight up Demon Mode & eat like food is going out of style - yeah I could see you gaining 10lbs per month on 500 test especially if you cut down to super low body fat before you started.

 

[5.5psl]

It depends, people react to gear differently. My first cycle I ran for 12 weeks and I gained 10lbs of lean muscle - 13lbs overall.

If you go straight up Demon Mode & eat like food is going out of style - yeah I could see you gaining 10lbs per month on 500 test especially if you cut down to super low body fat before you started.

Yes true it's very subjective and depends how you respond to gear there was a hyper responder guy in my gym he ran 500 mg test for 10 weeks and completely changed his physique and gained almost 30 pounds of pure dense hard muscle