enclomiphene And igf1 concern

[MUSTYCOPER]

So Im about to start using enclo and i have read about it lowering igf1 by interacting with the liver and its estrogen receptors. I want to know if running peptides along side it would help. I am leaning towards just having low levels tho cause im also on ghk-cu so it might be worthless

Current hormone levels, feel like shit all the time

 

[child__]

what is this tests name

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

what is this tests name

?

 

[asdvek]

the igf1 ur getting is most likely fake anyway

 

[dah-mam?]

what is this tests name

It’s a blood test.

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

the igf1 ur getting is most likely fake anyway

I dont use anything currently that raises igf1

 

[dah-mam?]

So Im about to start using enclo and i have read about it lowering igf1 by interacting with the liver and its estrogen receptors. I want to know if running peptides along side it would help. I am leaning towards just having low levels tho cause im also on ghk-cu so it might be worthless

Current hormone levels, feel like shit all the time

You’re going to need to take growth hormone with the enclomaphine. Or else you’re gonna fuck yourself. You can also add an AI as well. If you want to do a “natty stack” that people tend to do: enclo and mk. It’s not great, you should definitely just get normal gh. But if you dose at 30mg-45mg with 12.5 mg of enclo you should see improvements.

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

You’re going to need to take growth hormone with the enclomaphine. Or else you’re gonna fuck yourself. You can also add an AI as well. If you want to do a “natty stack” that people tend to do: enclo and mk. It’s not great, you should definitely just get normal gh. But if you dose at 30mg-45mg with 12.5 mg of enclo you should see improvements.

Idk, I feel like I can just let the igf1 drop, hgh comes with alot of sides specifically water retention which is usually only dealt with by diuretics. I have used gh in the past and it just made me a bloated mess.

 

[child__]

It’s a blood test.

i know i asked for the tests name as in where did he get it tested

 

[dah-mam?]

i know i asked for the tests name as in where did he get it tested

You’re a fucking idiot. Learn to write properly then. He did it at Kaiser permanente. You can get blood work done with any healthcare provider you stupid fuck. Go outside.

Idk, I feel like I can just let the igf1 drop, hgh comes with alot of sides specifically water retention which is usually only dealt with by diuretics. I have used gh in the past and it just made me a bloated mess.

why bother making this post then if your just gonna opt out anyways. Just take enclo on its own. Only do 12.5mg and monitor yourself closely. You can easily fuck your LH, toss everything out of balance. Diet is the key to it all. If your diets shit, none of this shit will help.

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

You’re a fucking idiot. Learn to write properly then. He did it at Kaiser permanente. You can get blood work done with any healthcare provider you stupid fuck. Go outside.

why bother making this post then if your just gonna opt out anyways. Just take enclo on its own. Only do 12.5mg and monitor yourself closely. You can easily fuck your LH, toss everything out of balance. Diet is the key to it all. If your diets shit, none of this shit will help.

Im do just this, but im start at 6.25 either ED or EOD. The enclo is in delivery. I have read that the LH is dose-dependent, but higher LH does not yield a liner amount of higher testosterone. Im get bloods prob 2 weeks.

 

[child__]

You’re a fucking idiot. Learn to write properly then. He did it at Kaiser permanente. You can get blood work done with any healthcare provider you stupid fuck. Go outside.

why bother making this post then if your just gonna opt out anyways. Just take enclo on its own. Only do 12.5mg and monitor yourself closely. You can easily fuck your LH, toss everything out of balance. Diet is the key to it all. If your diets shit, none of this shit will help.

sorry for not being a low test cuck that needs a testosterone test to check if my levels are low, does this message make you feel better about yourself and make you feel less insecure about yourself? your gonna get old fast with the amount of anger that question gave you. I would reccomend taking your own reccomendations of going outside bro

 

[Whirr22222]

Dont bother with enclo

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

sorry for not being a low test cuck that needs a testosterone test to check if my levels are low, does this message make you feel better about yourself and make you feel less insecure about yourself? your gonna get old fast with the amount of anger that question gave you. I would reccomend taking your own reccomendations of going outside bro

ngl there low because I blasted steroids, also ur just retarded everybody knows this is a basic testosterone test. U just have a small brain

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

Dont bother with enclo

is there a reason ?

 

[child__]

ngl there low because I blasted steroids, also ur just retarded everybody knows this is a basic testosterone test. U just have a small brain

im not american all hormonal tests are on paper from where im from.

 

[Whirr22222]

is there a reason ?

Because it wont give u any benefits whatsoever in terms of looks, just take test & or HGH

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

im not american all hormonal tests are on paper from where im from.

My first one was on paper too. Either way it doesn’t matter

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

Because it wont give u any benefits whatsoever in terms of looks, just take test & or HGH

I have done both, cons out weigh the pros in my situation. I bloat bad on both and i dont have the consistent blood test to dial in dose for perfect protocol. Enclo is just what ur balls would be making at 110% and im pretty sure it works to follow the natural cycle of test ( high in the morning with a drop through the day) vs trt which is a constant supply until ur next injection. Im mess around and see if it works out and if not it leaves ur system at the usually in 2.5 days and not traceable by 2 weeks. No hpta shutdown too