Ending the anti gymmaxxing cope (GTFIH anti gymmaxxing copers)

[Jonas2k7]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

Look at these romance book covers:

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully

 

[last sxmmer]

I agree

 

[PsychoH]

Based, gymmaxing is holy in lookism.

 

[NZb6Air]

goatis tards think they can rape girls, choke out lions and hunt without working out btw

 

[MA_ascender]

goatis tards think they can rape girls, choke out lions and hunt without working out btw

Unrelated but do you take trt

You mentioned test being the only roid worth taking once

 

[NZb6Air]

Unrelated but do you take trt

You mentioned test being the only roid worth taking once

Hey, let's keep the conversation relevant to the thread. Unrelated questions can derail the discussion and take away from the original point. Feel free to start a new thread if you want to bring up a different topic.

 

[halloweed]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
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Nah bruh lean is law
I wanna be a twig
Girls don’t find muscle attractive
If I get confronted in a fight I can use a gun
People don’t need muscles in nature

 

[halloweed]

This is the ideal physique
Girls don’t want ogre with tumours on their body
This is sex appeal

 

[Bomber517]

I'm drinking creatine rn

 

[Jonas2k7]

View attachment 3286889
This is the ideal physique
Girls don’t want ogre with tumours on their body
This is sex appeal

"hey, can I get your instagram"

gets smashed on the ground by the girl

 

[Greypiller]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
View attachment 3286873

So using your logic this guy would be able to slay stacies?

 

[halloweed]

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"hey, can I get your instagram"

gets smashed on the ground by the girl

“No it’s face which counts”

 

[kyrre]

Trust bro

 

[halloweed]

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So using your logic this guy would be able to slay stacies?

@Jonas2k7 dont even reply WTF

 

[moreplatesmoreweigh]

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This is the ideal physique
Girls don’t want ogre with tumours on their body
This is sex appeal

 

[kyrre]

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Trust bro

 

[Jonas2k7]

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So using your logic this guy would be able to slay stacies?

That's exactly what I'm not saying bro

Read the thread again, my point was that physique is an important factor that will improve your SMV.

 

[Jonas2k7]

 

[20/04/2008]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
View attachment 3286873

Nigga lets write a thread together again

 

[enriquecel]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
View attachment 3286873

gymmaxed mtn > elias de twink

 

[Subhuman232]

I did fully go into gymmaxxing this months, only dudes like it tho, getting a lot of attention from gay niggas I'm starting to wear only sweaters

 

[ivan.kuk]

this is peak femalegaze

 

[i999z]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
View attachment 3286873

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
View attachment 3286873

 

[Jonas2k7]

Gymmaxed Chadlite > Chad

To some extent yes, because gymmaxxing increases SMV

And higher SMV mogs only PSL

My point is that:
Gymmaxxed > Not gymmaxxed

I did fully go into gymmaxxing this months, only dudes like it tho, getting a lot of attention from gay niggas I'm starting to wear only sweaters

Keep up the grind bro

this is peak femalegaze

Nope. That looks like 70kg lean? You have to add atleast 10 kilos more bro

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Watched the video too

 

[ivan.kuk]

To some extent yes, because gymmaxxing increases SMV

And higher SMV mogs only PSL

My point is that:
Gymmaxxed > Not gymmaxxed

Keep up the grind bro

Nope. That looks like 70kg lean? You have to add atleast 10 kilos more bro

Watched the video too

its 80kg at 6"5

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

I support gymcelling but your post is not accurate. Jeff Seid is NOT 5'11. He's 5'8. Other than that you get a thumbs up from me. But they also don't have physiques you could achieve without pinning.

 

[Jonas2k7]

I support gymcelling but your post is not accurate. Jeff Seid is NOT 5'11. He's 5'8.

I didn't mention his height actually, what I meant was that if you are shorter you weigh less basically

Other than that you get a thumbs up from me.

Thanks

But they also don't have physiques you could achieve without pinning.

You could over a really long time. Let's say you still gain 100g of muscle mass per month as an elitelifter, that would be 1.2kg of muscle mass per year. They weigh around 80kg in these pictures, so it wouldn't be that hard to achieve their physiques. You also gain more than 100g of muscle mass per month as an intermediate lifter.

This doesn't mean that I'm against roiding, I'm going to roid soon too.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

I didn't mention his height actually, what I meant was that if you are shorter you weigh less basically

Thanks

You could over a really long time. Let's say you still gain 100g of muscle mass per month as an elitelifter, that would be 1.2kg of muscle mass per year. They weigh around 80kg in these pictures, so it wouldn't be that hard to achieve their physiques. You also gain more than 100g of muscle mass per month as an intermediate lifter.

This doesn't mean that I'm against roiding, I'm going to roid soon too.

David laid has a ffmi of 24 while being shredded. Which isn't obtainable, at least not for a guy with average genes.

 

[wastedspermcel]

@halloweed @MA_ascender @looksmaxxing223 MFW my incel genetics don't allow me a good physique

 

[halloweed]

@halloweed @MA_ascender @looksmaxxing223 MFW my incel genetics don't allow me a good physique

Do you have clavicles wider than your waist at least? A long bicep?

 

[wastedspermcel]

Do you have clavicles wider than your waist at least? A long bicep?

Yeah my waist thin asf tho, can't say anything good about my bicep because it's none existant and I can fit 2 fingers in there. Wouldn't say it's short

 

[halloweed]

Yeah my waist thin asf tho, can't say anything good about my bicep because it's none existant and I can fit 2 fingers in there. Wouldn't say it's short

You can build an aesthetic physique, you’re already at an advantage with a small waist.

 

[RoyaleWithCheese]

Based. Anti-gymcelers are just coping for their laziness and doomerism. Also women aside, you get way more respect from other men when you’re jacked. Plus it’s good for your health.

 

[halloweed]

Yeah my waist thin asf tho, can't say anything good about my bicep because it's none existant and I can fit 2 fingers in there. Wouldn't say it's short

Jeff Seid is 5 11 so lifefuel for you

 

[Jonas2k7]

David laid has a ffmi of 24 while being shredded. Which isn't obtainable, at least not for a guy with average genes.

I looked up his weight and he should be around 190 pounds

He is also 6'2 and if his bodyfat is 8%, his FFMI would be 22. Correct me if I'm wrong

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

I looked up his weight and he should be around 190 pounds
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He is also 6'2 and if his bodyfat is 8%, his FFMI would be 22. Correct me if I'm wrong

I've heard he was actually 210. Either way I think he's pinning since he looks too photoshopped.

 

[Jonas2k7]

I've heard he was actually 210. Either way I think he's pinning since he looks too photoshopped.

Yea then he would be not natty 100%

Jeff Seid stated that he was 200 pounds in 1015 (9 years ago) imagine how much this nigga weighs now He's using too much creatine+ nigga

 

[lestoa]

Hey, let's keep the conversation relevant to the thread. Unrelated questions can derail the discussion and take away from the original point. Feel free to start a new thread if you want to bring up a different topic.

You answered like my history teacher

 

[Dodevu]

You say roiding is a looksmin but Seid and Laid have been on roids previously.

It will take a lot of natty years training to get anywhere near their physique.

 

[The Dark Phoenix]

goatis tards think they can rape girls, choke out lions and hunt without working out btw

i can rape girls stop coping

 

[Dyorotic]

If you're sub 5 it won't make much of a difference but if you're above it makes ALL the fucking difference

mogging other men is better than pussy, especially once you realize how mediocre sex actually is

 

[auitistsurvior]

A lot of people still think that gymmaxxing is cope. This thread will finally end that stupid cope.

The ideal female gaze physique is this:

View attachment 3286835View attachment 3286837

What exactly makes these physiques attractive you may ask?

• The neck is the same width as the jaw which is ideal.
• Both have high muscle mass, they are in these pictures between 80kg and 90kg. Their height contributes to that "high" weight tho, a 5'11 ideal physique could be 5kg lighter.
• Lean is law. It only looks that good because of their leanness.
• Trained everything equally, traps don't make your shoulders less wide. If you have wide shoulders, trained traps still look good and don't just pop up from every angle.

There is a lot of proof on that, gymmaxxing isn't only male gaze. There are threads on this, overall societal behaviour concludes that gymmaxxed physiques are optimal.

Looxfishing on a JB App (End to Prettyboy Twink Copes)

The day is Sunday, January 1st. The New Year has started and normies worldwide are celebrating with their families, plotting their new year resolutions, and probably having sex. But like the turbo-incel rotter I am, I started off New Year's right by browsing old .org posts. That is when I...

looksmax.org

Do you think a 50kg HTN twink would get the same comments?

View attachment 3286844
View attachment 3286845

Gymmaxxing fucking saved this guy too

View attachment 3286852

Look at these romance book covers:

View attachment 3286853View attachment 3286854View attachment 3286855View attachment 3286857View attachment 3286858View attachment 3286859

What do they all have in common? Spoiler: It's the muscle mass. They all had to train atleast 1-2 years for these physiques.

Imagine thinking gymmaxxing is bad in 2024

We could argue that roidmaxxing is a looksmin yes, but natty training and achieving these physiques is a huge SMV boost.

If a girl could choose between two guys (both HTN facially and same height) who do you think would she choose? The more muscular one.

Also roidmaxxing allows you to achieve this goal physique in a lot shorter time and comes (only in puberty) with benefits like deeper voice and bigger dick.

Also why would you even think that being weak and thin would be better than being gymmaxxed? Also only focusing on female gaze is wrong, not having any male respect is also contraproductive for getting girls. Imagine getting bullied and you can't do anything about it

Imagine doing this move to your bully
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its not cope but natural gymmaxing is cope(to me) since you can gain much more faster with steroids

 

[Alexanderr]

You might just be right... But maybe I'd go for some less muscle mass, for a more athletic look.

Either would be fine, really, might even alternate between the two depending on lighting and pump.

I'd like to hop on roids, but cardiac-related deaths in the family scare me away. I'd need to minimize the side effects, especially heart-related. But that then requires all types of testing before hopping on to establish a baseline, along with other regular tests after starting... Seems like a hassle.

 

[Jonas2k7]

It will take a lot of natty years training to get anywhere near their physique.

I fully agree! It could take a decade to achieve their physique. So roiding is a pretty good shortcut.

If you're sub 5 it won't make much of a difference but if you're above it makes ALL the fucking difference

That's right, it will only boost your SMV but that is undeniable.

mogging other men is better than pussy, especially once you realize how mediocre sex actually is

Both are great tbh, it's just stupid that some people think that their whole lifes purpose is to get pussy or something Looksmaxxing isn't only to get pussy, it's meant as a whole life improvement. (Because looks enhance all aspects of your life.)

 

[BoredPrince]

As I said before, if you can't be good looking, just blast roids and gymmax

You could get a HTB that way easily

 

[Jonas2k7]

You might just be right... But maybe I'd go for some less muscle mass, for a more athletic look.
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Either would be fine, really, might even alternate between the two depending on lighting and pump.

Their physiques are also really nice, it's only a bit less muscular than David Laids for example. I'd say they weigh around 80kg lean.

I'd like to hop on roids, but cardiac-related deaths in the family scare me away.

My family also has a history of cardiac-related deaths. It's important for us to take the aspect of heart health serious in that case.

I'd need to minimize the side effects, especially heart-related. But that then requires all types of testing before hopping on to establish a baseline, along with other regular tests after starting... Seems like a hassle.

Blood tests are always important before, during and after the cycle. I have chronically high LDL so I might as well just die while roiding

You can minimize the cardiac-related side effects with SR9009 though, I think sourcing would be the only problem. Also I'd recommend the use of Q10.

 

[LVZZO]

You might just be right... But maybe I'd go for some less muscle mass, for a more athletic look.
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Either would be fine, really, might even alternate between the two depending on lighting and pump.

I'd like to hop on roids, but cardiac-related deaths in the family scare me away. I'd need to minimize the side effects, especially heart-related. But that then requires all types of testing before hopping on to establish a baseline, along with other regular tests after starting... Seems like a hassle.

That's the ideal physique for most young girls.
Might take like 3 years being natural if you are really consistent, with some test you can do it in like 1,5 years with half the effort for sure
The thing is roids are not a long term solution, you can't just cycle for a decade without taking another decade of your lifespan
The money you would spend on roids would be better spent in small procedures and supplements to reduce small imperfections and improve your metabolic health.
Once you look like this your physique is not the limiting factor for sure.

 

[Jonas2k7]

That's the ideal physique for most young girls.
Might take like 3 years being natural if you are really consistent, with some test you can do it in like 1,5 years with half the effort for sure
The thing is roids are not a long term solution, you can't just cycle for a decade without taking another decade of your lifespan
The money you would spend on roids would be better spent in small procedures and supplements to reduce small imperfections and improve your metabolic health.
Once you look like this your physique is not the limiting factor for sure.
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The first training year consists of newbie gains and trial and error to find the perfect volume, exercises and form for your training.

Test e 500mg for 15 weeks won't hurt.

Having the body halo especially younger is such a SMV boost, girls see our physiques the same way we see theirs (big ass, tits,..) So if you are gymmaxxed really early on in your life, you will have time to focus on other limiting factors (dick size? = PE, height? = LL, Face? = Surgerymaxxing)