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The vagueness of the term “inceldom”
A lot of ppl often see the term “incel” as synonymous with KHHV, but inceldom is actually a lot about mentality rather than a state of being and all it takes to have such mentality is be sub-chad or just be unlucky. The problem with treating “incel” as synonymous with KHHV is that on technical basis, escaping “inceldom” can somewhat be cheesed by hooking up with 300lb landwhale femcels or 70-yr old GILFs, not to mention paying a hooker for the deed. It really depends on how much dignity you’re willing to sacrifice.
Also I don’t think male virginity exists or can be “taken” since we’re the ones with a penis. Men “fuck”. Women get “fucked”. By saying that you got your virginity “taken” by a girl makes you sound like a delicate flower cuck that implies you got dominated by the female instead of you dominating them. Male virginity sounds like another feminist propaganda designed to gaslight society into thinking that men have just as much to lose as women when they have sex.
Being able to obtain sex was never strictly about possessing more virtue than other men, given that lot of women nowadays are observed to paradoxically choose sub-5 ethnic for LTR over men in the normie range. Nowadays slaying has turned into a battle of extremes where normie range men are the most cucked because they’re not good-looking enough to be the woman’s first option, while simultaneously not ugly enough to be a safe option to fall back on when locking down chad fails. The same way too many bad things happen to innocent people for karma to exist, there’s too many degenerates slaying for the dating market to be considered meritocratic. It's absolute chaos and disorder in the sub-chad realm. In a woman’s mind, your amount of value and “virtue” is like liquid to them and fluctuates based on how much they can benefit from you at any given moment.
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The common denominator of this site
I think the common denominator between literal KHHVs and the rest of the community is more of being unable to find a consistent source of sexual gratification from women. I think if a KHHV actually puts their entire being into trying to get laid, they will eventually at least get laid once in their life, even without resorting to hookers or escorts. But the more important problem is can they actually get laid on a regular basis with minimal time and energy spent once they “ascended”?
An analogy for this is that getting hired for a job isn’t the most important thing, but being able to hop from job to job with total ease even if you get laid off. IMO this is one of the biggest litmus tests for chad status. You can also see it as doing a physics experiment where if you swing a bucket full of water in a uniform circular motion over your head quickly enough, the water won’t fall out. That’s basically the chad experience of being able to move from one slay to another quick enough that they never feel sexually discontent. Whereas a non-uniform circular motion would be more analogous to the sub-chad experience.
Of course, you might tell me that "normies still slay a lot". But those are ones that are lucky enough to have had positive reinforcement from an early age (and also not blackpilled) so that they don’t feel how tedious and rigged the process of slaying is. They don’t know that they’re putting in far more effort than a legitimate chad. Ignorance is bliss to them. Being blackpilled to the bone as a sub-chad makes the process of slaying feel cucked asf. “Just earn money and build status to attract women bro”. No, that is automatic disqualification from being a contender for chad status. That makes it even more cucked.
Being sub-chad = greater opportunity cost
We all have finite time and energy, and if you understand economics 101, it should obvious that slaying as a sub-chad results in a much greater opportunity cost. As a sub-chad, platitudes such as leaving your “comfort zone” are often shoved down your throat naturally pressuring you into a displaced situation. Meanwhile chad never had to leave his “comfort zone”. Women gravitate to chad’s “comfort zone”. Women meet chad in chad's "comfort zone". While you as a sub-chad have to meet women in their "comfort zone". The opportunity costs in slaying become much more apparent as a sub-chad when you start to have hobbies and ambitions going for you in life, not for the sake of attracting women, but for yourself.
To exert yourself and expect validation from it as a man is opening yourself to be cucked. Being able to fuck one woman doesn’t change the reality that there are people who have to exert less effort than you towards the same goal. Aside from seeing "inceldom" as a mentality, it can also be seen as a spectrum. How "incel" you are is measured by the opportunity costs you incur by trying to get a slay. The fact that some ppl here have to make an entire thread about each slay they get proves that those are merely exceptions and not the status quo in their life. The slays are not effortless the same way as chad experiences. Not to mention that most of the stories sound awkward asf which just shows that they were never really in control of the situation.
Spiritual discontentment
Regardless of whether one is a KHHV or not, I think what most people have in common here is spiritual discontentment. Having to jump through hoops to get slays. Having to adhere to a woman’s sexual “preferences” and “boundaries” in bed, i.e: having to wear condom and being limited to vanilla missionary and doggystyle. Not being able to express your own insecurities without them ignoring and ghosting you. Despite being able to have sex, most men are imposed with unnatural constraints on their sexual and emotional expression during their encounters. Most men are unable to fully be themselves in bed with a woman. Chances are if you try to lick a woman’s feet during a hookup, they’re gonna kick you in the face then tell everyone in town how some “creep” has a foot fetish. It’s a small world out there, particularly on dating apps where you might even see ppl you already know IRL.
looksmax.org
You might say that “the most important thing about sex is validation from women”. But it’s really difficult to feel validated when you realize women are putting you through all these obstacles and hoops that they never did for men before you. Exclusivity contributes to this feeling of validation as well, and this aspect is long gone in today’s debaucherous world.
I personally believe JBF (Just Be First) is the biggest equalizer for lack of validation. Some ppl think it’s some “gotcha” moment when they say “Women don’t remember their first. A better man always comes along”. JFL are you really that fucking delusion to believe you’re irreplaceable as a sub-chad? Even Tom Brady got cucked by a random ethnic. What makes you think you stand a better chance than him at being irreplaceable? The blackpill a lot of users here won’t accept is that we’re all replaceable no matter how much you looksmax and "ascend". IMO the only equalizer for this is to make the biggest impact in another woman’s life to validate yourself first and foremost. And there’s no better way to do that in nature than being a woman’s first (telegony and microchimerism).
A lot of us probably also cannot obtain sexual intimacy without sacrificing our ideals. This not only applies in dating but also just socialising in general where you often have to cater to the ideals of people around you and whatever they consider “good” and “virtues”. These ideals are often shaped by mainstream narrative, which often won’t have your best interests in mind, hence hindering the quality of your overall life. Sometimes not playing is the most logical move to make and leads to better outcomes in your life in the long-term.
Your assumed slay count = your looks
I know some ppl here genuinely find fulfilment in their “conquests” no matter how rigged and bullshit the process might be. It’s just “chad” is more or less a predetermined state of being and will be out of reach for 99% of men here. Our natural SMV remains the same regardless of how many slays we get. Most ppl on the street do not wonder about how much others slayed. And if they do, their speculations about your sex life will be derived from your looks first and foremost. If you’re sub-5, ppl will logically think you’re KHHV, and trying to tell them otherwise will be like trying to convince them into believing a conspiracy theory.
This thread will very likely be interpreted as “anti-slaying” due to the ragebait title, but it’s more of a caveat of the futility of expecting external validation from slaying. The most important thing is to slay for the sake of inner fulfilment because there’s nothing more suifuel than constantly comparing your experiences with chad.
TD;LR: The reason “inceldom” and sites like this exist is because we unfortunately live in a world of having to compromise.
5 attributes of chad status are:
- No reliance on status or money to attract women
- Being able to slay with minimal opportunity cost. Basically if you can’t meet a random woman who smiles and winks at you as she walks into the female toilets as an invitation to bang her, you’re an incel
- Being able to hop from one slay to another (or even LTR) like it's nothing. It should easy as getting out of one car and getting into another
- No constraints placed on sexual expression in bed, i.e: having fetishes seen as “creepy” (understandable if scat or gore JFL)
- Being able to vent out insecurities without being ignored/ghosted by women afterwards is underrated
@Chadeep @Klasik616 @bloomercel @autistic_tendencies @Clown Show @Darkeningstar @WINGLESS ANGEL @wishIwasSalludon @XxW33dSm0k3rxX @_Tigrim_
A lot of ppl often see the term “incel” as synonymous with KHHV, but inceldom is actually a lot about mentality rather than a state of being and all it takes to have such mentality is be sub-chad or just be unlucky. The problem with treating “incel” as synonymous with KHHV is that on technical basis, escaping “inceldom” can somewhat be cheesed by hooking up with 300lb landwhale femcels or 70-yr old GILFs, not to mention paying a hooker for the deed. It really depends on how much dignity you’re willing to sacrifice.
Also I don’t think male virginity exists or can be “taken” since we’re the ones with a penis. Men “fuck”. Women get “fucked”. By saying that you got your virginity “taken” by a girl makes you sound like a delicate flower cuck that implies you got dominated by the female instead of you dominating them. Male virginity sounds like another feminist propaganda designed to gaslight society into thinking that men have just as much to lose as women when they have sex.
Being able to obtain sex was never strictly about possessing more virtue than other men, given that lot of women nowadays are observed to paradoxically choose sub-5 ethnic for LTR over men in the normie range. Nowadays slaying has turned into a battle of extremes where normie range men are the most cucked because they’re not good-looking enough to be the woman’s first option, while simultaneously not ugly enough to be a safe option to fall back on when locking down chad fails. The same way too many bad things happen to innocent people for karma to exist, there’s too many degenerates slaying for the dating market to be considered meritocratic. It's absolute chaos and disorder in the sub-chad realm. In a woman’s mind, your amount of value and “virtue” is like liquid to them and fluctuates based on how much they can benefit from you at any given moment.
Why sub-5 ethnics are able to slay more than normie men in the west
“The normie purgatory” You might sometimes see that some women nowadays are in relationships with sub-5 ethnics, which you might think disproves the blackpill. But I think it actually confirms existing blackpill theories on the feminine psyche. There is something I refer to as the “normie...
looksmax.org
The common denominator of this site
I think the common denominator between literal KHHVs and the rest of the community is more of being unable to find a consistent source of sexual gratification from women. I think if a KHHV actually puts their entire being into trying to get laid, they will eventually at least get laid once in their life, even without resorting to hookers or escorts. But the more important problem is can they actually get laid on a regular basis with minimal time and energy spent once they “ascended”?
An analogy for this is that getting hired for a job isn’t the most important thing, but being able to hop from job to job with total ease even if you get laid off. IMO this is one of the biggest litmus tests for chad status. You can also see it as doing a physics experiment where if you swing a bucket full of water in a uniform circular motion over your head quickly enough, the water won’t fall out. That’s basically the chad experience of being able to move from one slay to another quick enough that they never feel sexually discontent. Whereas a non-uniform circular motion would be more analogous to the sub-chad experience.
Of course, you might tell me that "normies still slay a lot". But those are ones that are lucky enough to have had positive reinforcement from an early age (and also not blackpilled) so that they don’t feel how tedious and rigged the process of slaying is. They don’t know that they’re putting in far more effort than a legitimate chad. Ignorance is bliss to them. Being blackpilled to the bone as a sub-chad makes the process of slaying feel cucked asf. “Just earn money and build status to attract women bro”. No, that is automatic disqualification from being a contender for chad status. That makes it even more cucked.
Being sub-chad = greater opportunity cost
We all have finite time and energy, and if you understand economics 101, it should obvious that slaying as a sub-chad results in a much greater opportunity cost. As a sub-chad, platitudes such as leaving your “comfort zone” are often shoved down your throat naturally pressuring you into a displaced situation. Meanwhile chad never had to leave his “comfort zone”. Women gravitate to chad’s “comfort zone”. Women meet chad in chad's "comfort zone". While you as a sub-chad have to meet women in their "comfort zone". The opportunity costs in slaying become much more apparent as a sub-chad when you start to have hobbies and ambitions going for you in life, not for the sake of attracting women, but for yourself.
To exert yourself and expect validation from it as a man is opening yourself to be cucked. Being able to fuck one woman doesn’t change the reality that there are people who have to exert less effort than you towards the same goal. Aside from seeing "inceldom" as a mentality, it can also be seen as a spectrum. How "incel" you are is measured by the opportunity costs you incur by trying to get a slay. The fact that some ppl here have to make an entire thread about each slay they get proves that those are merely exceptions and not the status quo in their life. The slays are not effortless the same way as chad experiences. Not to mention that most of the stories sound awkward asf which just shows that they were never really in control of the situation.
Spiritual discontentment
Regardless of whether one is a KHHV or not, I think what most people have in common here is spiritual discontentment. Having to jump through hoops to get slays. Having to adhere to a woman’s sexual “preferences” and “boundaries” in bed, i.e: having to wear condom and being limited to vanilla missionary and doggystyle. Not being able to express your own insecurities without them ignoring and ghosting you. Despite being able to have sex, most men are imposed with unnatural constraints on their sexual and emotional expression during their encounters. Most men are unable to fully be themselves in bed with a woman. Chances are if you try to lick a woman’s feet during a hookup, they’re gonna kick you in the face then tell everyone in town how some “creep” has a foot fetish. It’s a small world out there, particularly on dating apps where you might even see ppl you already know IRL.
Having to “perform” in bed sounds like feminist propaganda directed towards sub-chads
A male’s penis is basically a "paintbrush" and they are natural artists of nature. While a woman is the "canvas" for the artist to express themselves on. The masculine imperative is to find a “canvas” to express themselves on. I think being allowed to fully express oneself sexually to one’s...
looksmax.org
You might say that “the most important thing about sex is validation from women”. But it’s really difficult to feel validated when you realize women are putting you through all these obstacles and hoops that they never did for men before you. Exclusivity contributes to this feeling of validation as well, and this aspect is long gone in today’s debaucherous world.
I personally believe JBF (Just Be First) is the biggest equalizer for lack of validation. Some ppl think it’s some “gotcha” moment when they say “Women don’t remember their first. A better man always comes along”. JFL are you really that fucking delusion to believe you’re irreplaceable as a sub-chad? Even Tom Brady got cucked by a random ethnic. What makes you think you stand a better chance than him at being irreplaceable? The blackpill a lot of users here won’t accept is that we’re all replaceable no matter how much you looksmax and "ascend". IMO the only equalizer for this is to make the biggest impact in another woman’s life to validate yourself first and foremost. And there’s no better way to do that in nature than being a woman’s first (telegony and microchimerism).
A lot of us probably also cannot obtain sexual intimacy without sacrificing our ideals. This not only applies in dating but also just socialising in general where you often have to cater to the ideals of people around you and whatever they consider “good” and “virtues”. These ideals are often shaped by mainstream narrative, which often won’t have your best interests in mind, hence hindering the quality of your overall life. Sometimes not playing is the most logical move to make and leads to better outcomes in your life in the long-term.
Your assumed slay count = your looks
I know some ppl here genuinely find fulfilment in their “conquests” no matter how rigged and bullshit the process might be. It’s just “chad” is more or less a predetermined state of being and will be out of reach for 99% of men here. Our natural SMV remains the same regardless of how many slays we get. Most ppl on the street do not wonder about how much others slayed. And if they do, their speculations about your sex life will be derived from your looks first and foremost. If you’re sub-5, ppl will logically think you’re KHHV, and trying to tell them otherwise will be like trying to convince them into believing a conspiracy theory.
This thread will very likely be interpreted as “anti-slaying” due to the ragebait title, but it’s more of a caveat of the futility of expecting external validation from slaying. The most important thing is to slay for the sake of inner fulfilment because there’s nothing more suifuel than constantly comparing your experiences with chad.
TD;LR: The reason “inceldom” and sites like this exist is because we unfortunately live in a world of having to compromise.
5 attributes of chad status are:
- No reliance on status or money to attract women
- Being able to slay with minimal opportunity cost. Basically if you can’t meet a random woman who smiles and winks at you as she walks into the female toilets as an invitation to bang her, you’re an incel
- Being able to hop from one slay to another (or even LTR) like it's nothing. It should easy as getting out of one car and getting into another
- No constraints placed on sexual expression in bed, i.e: having fetishes seen as “creepy” (understandable if scat or gore JFL)
- Being able to vent out insecurities without being ignored/ghosted by women afterwards is underrated
@Chadeep @Klasik616 @bloomercel @autistic_tendencies @Clown Show @Darkeningstar @WINGLESS ANGEL @wishIwasSalludon @XxW33dSm0k3rxX @_Tigrim_
