Every sexual experience, even a kiss or cuddle counts as a body for women

[Vantablack]

Virginity is meaningless cope. If a female has any sexual contact with a man or woman that counts as a body. It’s the same way christcucks cope with anal sex. All forms of hookups are a body. Female body counts are actually much larger because women don’t count that in. Imagine a femoid sucking dick in a shady bar washroom and thinking she’s not a slut. she’s just as big of a slut as the femoid who got fucked there. if a femoid has 5 “bodies” in reality she’s probably had physical sexual experiences with 20-25 guys in her lifetime.

If you count sharing online nudes or suggestive texting then that number is probably closer to 40 for the same female with a 5 “body count”. Most incels here haven’t even spoken to 40 women in their lifetimes. Imagine being sexual with that many men. This WILL cause permanent brain chemistry changes and destroy abilities to pairbond. Most people would consider a woman with that body count to be conservative, but her neural pathways are already destroyed. Even “virgins” have had sexual contact with 10-20 men online and offline.

LTRs are a meme in 2025. Westernised Women are over. If a femoid has access to social media or pornography it’s over. MGTOW and moneymax and then geomax for a traditional foid, or casual slaying if chad. These are the only options to not be cucked

 

[Vantablack]

disagree with me and end up like akash

 

[Big Daddy]

so basic

 

[green_fn_2033]

Yep. This is why marriage is humiliation ritual nowadays. best you can do is find one that’s not a whore and keep her around as a gf , but be ready to drop her at any moment

 

[Vantablack]

so basic

what do you mean?

 

[Vantablack]

Yep. This is why marriage is humiliation ritual nowadays. best you can do is find one that’s not a whore and keep her around as a gf , but be ready to drop her at any moment

being monogamous to a whore is cucked

 

[Saint]

Virginity is meaningless cope. If a female has any sexual contact with a man or woman that counts as a body. It’s the same way christcucks cope with anal sex. All forms of hookups are a body. Female body counts are actually much larger because women don’t count that in. Imagine a femoid sucking dick in a shady bar washroom and thinking she’s not a slut. she’s just as big of a slut as the femoid who got fucked there. if a femoid has 5 “bodies” in reality she’s probably had physical sexual experiences with 20-25 guys in her lifetime.

If you count sharing online nudes or suggestive texting then that number is probably closer to 40 for the same female with a 5 “body count”. Most incels here haven’t even spoken to 40 women in their lifetimes. Imagine being sexual with that many men. This WILL cause permanent brain chemistry changes and destroy abilities to pairbond. Most people would consider a woman with that body count to be conservative, but her neural pathways are already destroyed. Even “virgins” have had sexual contact with 10-20 men online and offline.

LTRs are a meme in 2025. Westernised Women are over. If a femoid has access to social media or pornography it’s over. MGTOW and moneymax and then geomax for a traditional foid, or casual slaying if chad. These are the only options to not be cucked

Hear me out, a foid sucking dick is worse than a foid getting fucked.

 

[green_fn_2033]

being monogamous to a whore is cucked

Even foreign hoes aren’t safe from this “talking stage” culture. unless she’s from a backwater village in a third world country, her mind is likely tainted even if she’s from the third world

 

[Vantablack]

Hear me out, a foid sucking dick is worse than a foid getting fucked.

i agree with you. sucking dick is pure submission for a woman, she receives no pleasure from it. even the position of being on your knees in front of a man is inherently submissive. the fact that blowjobs are so normalised and casual is a sign of a culturally dead society

 

[Saint]

i agree with you. sucking dick is pure submission for a woman, she receives no pleasure from it. even the position of being on your knees in front of a man is inherently submissive. the fact that blowjobs are so normalised and casual is a sign of a culturally dead society

Exactly, took the words out of my mouth and I didn’t have to say it

 

[Vantablack]

Even foreign hoes aren’t safe from this “talking stage” culture. unless she’s from a backwater village in a third world country, her mind is likely tainted even if she’s from the third world

disgusting. we will never experience the purity and innocence of a woman.

 

[FredoEstelar]

Nah

 

[Vantablack]

Nah

elaborate

 

[paladincel_]

A girl literally brutally cuddled up to another guy in the first year of high school's class photo. Was in between his legs in that photo, leaning back into him.

She then got on her knees and made a cringey proposal to me to "be my gf forever" the next year. Obviously instantly rejected her.

I would have had sex easily if I said yes, just effortlessly might as well have stripped nude in the same room as her while pulling an exaggerated winking face. But she was a 3.8/10 or so.

 

[Vantablack]

A girl literally brutally cuddled up to another guy in the first year of high school's class photo. Was in between his legs in that photo, leaning back into him.

She then got on her knees and made a cringey proposal to me to "be my gf forever" the next year. Obviously instantly rejected her.

I would have had sex easily if I said yes, just effortlessly might as well have stripped nude in the same room as her while pulling an exaggerated winking face. But she was a 3.8/10 or so.

based, more men need to do this

 

[FredoEstelar]

elaborate

theorically foids start "experiencing" stuff hwen theyre still children, like kissing a boy on the cheeks or lips themselves whatever at a very young of like 11, 12
so if u havent grown next to her or went to the same school youre never going to be her first body so its bullshit

 

[paladincel_]

based, more men need to do this

Thanks. Even Hamza has the common sense to know it's cucked to be okay with a girl getting ran through before you finding her.

 

[Vantablack]

theorically foids start "experiencing" stuff hwen theyre still children, like kissing a boy on the cheeks or lips themselves whatever at a very young of like 11, 12
so if u havent grown next to her or went to the same school youre never going to be her first body so its bullshit

an innocent kiss on the cheek is different from one with sexual intentions, that’s rare at that young of an age. if a girl is sexually active that young then she has issues anyway and should be avoided

 

[PrettyLights]

does casual slaying have an end to it ? like a certain age where you gotta stop

 

[Vantablack]

does casual slaying have an end to it ? like a certain age where you gotta stop

no, why would it lol?

 

[PrettyLights]

no, why would it lol?

i'm a grown man in my 70's and you want me talkin sum "sneaky links" and "friends with benefits"

 

[Vantablack]

i'm a grown man in my 70's and you want me talkin sum "sneaky links" and "friends with benefits"

if you can pull it off, i dont see the issue lol

 

[maximuslaid]

Virginity is meaningless cope. If a female has any sexual contact with a man or woman that counts as a body. It’s the same way christcucks cope with anal sex. All forms of hookups are a body. Female body counts are actually much larger because women don’t count that in. Imagine a femoid sucking dick in a shady bar washroom and thinking she’s not a slut. she’s just as big of a slut as the femoid who got fucked there. if a femoid has 5 “bodies” in reality she’s probably had physical sexual experiences with 20-25 guys in her lifetime.

If you count sharing online nudes or suggestive texting then that number is probably closer to 40 for the same female with a 5 “body count”. Most incels here haven’t even spoken to 40 women in their lifetimes. Imagine being sexual with that many men. This WILL cause permanent brain chemistry changes and destroy abilities to pairbond. Most people would consider a woman with that body count to be conservative, but her neural pathways are already destroyed. Even “virgins” have had sexual contact with 10-20 men online and offline.

LTRs are a meme in 2025. Westernised Women are over. If a femoid has access to social media or pornography it’s over. MGTOW and moneymax and then geomax for a traditional foid, or casual slaying if chad. These are the only options to not be cucked

High iq take

 

[PrettyLights]

if you can pull it off, i dont see the issue lol

I’m going to be straight with you, but without feeding the despair spiral you’re in:


What you wrote is not factual, not healthy, and not helping you. It’s coming from a place of hurt, resentment, and internet-culture distortion—not from reality, data, or lived experience with real relationships.


Let’s break this down clearly and honestly:

---

1. “All sexual contact destroys pair bonding” — This is not supported by science​

There is no evidence that having X number of partners “destroys neural pathways” or makes someone incapable of bonding. That idea comes from:

• misinterpreted prairie-vole studies
• ideology-driven blogs
• online echo chambers
  Humans aren’t prairie voles, and even in voles the effect is far more complex than “sex = bonding ruined.”

Real psychology research consistently shows:

• People with higher partner counts can have healthy long-term relationships.
• People with low or zero partner counts can have dysfunctional relationships.
• What predicts relationship success?
  Communication, maturity, emotional regulation, compatibility, and especially life stability — not body count.

---

2. You’re drastically overestimating women’s sexual experiences​

Your numbers (“5 bodies = actually 20–40”) come from incel forums, not reality.


Actual large-scale studies of sexual behavior show:

• Most women do not have dozens of partners.
• Most people’s lifetime partner count is in the single digits or low double digits.
• Sharing a nude or flirting online is not comparable to having sex.

You’re treating any micro-interaction as “a body” because you’re thinking in terms of status and morality, not real encounters.

---

3. The language you’re using (“femoid,” “slut,” “cucked”) is making you more miserable​

That terminology:

• dehumanizes women
• reinforces bitterness
• traps you in an ideology that tells you nothing is possible
• keeps you from building confidence, skills, and real-world connections

It’s a cage disguised as “truth.”

---

4. Western women are not “over”​

That’s another cope narrative from blackpill spaces.


Millions of normal, stable, loyal, relationship-minded women exist:

• They work regular jobs
• They’re not on hookup apps
• They’re not clubbing
• They want companionship, security, stability, and someone who treats them well

The people online claiming “all women are ruined” are usually:

• only meeting women online
• only seeing the most extreme examples
• only interacting with the upper 5% of dating-market competition
• consuming doom content
• comparing themselves to men with far higher social leverage

It gives a warped lens.

---

5. LTRs in 2025 are not a meme​

People are getting married every day.
People are having kids.
People are staying together for decades.


The difference is:
dating is harder when you’re isolated, angry, and surrounded by negative ideology.


If you constantly consume:

• body count ideology
• blackpill
• MGTOW echo chambers
• “geomax or die” content
  …your brain adapts to that lens.

It’s the ideology that’s lowering your chances — not women.

---

6. Underneath your message is a very real emotion:​

You feel rejected, overlooked, and powerless.


That’s the core wound here.


And instead of processing it, you’re turning it into:

• anger
• fatalism
• dehumanization
• extreme generalizations
• “everyone else is corrupt, so I’m justified in opting out”

You don’t need shaming narratives to make sense of your situation.
You need accurate information, better tools, and actual support.

---

7. You’re not doomed. You’re not “behind.” You’re not cucked.​

But you do need to break out of the mental ecosystem that keeps telling you:

• connection is impossible
• women are enemies
• hookups equal corruption
• you’re powerless

Because that mindset will make itself come true.


When you’re ready, I can help you with:

• building confidence
• understanding real female psychology
• learning interaction skills
• reframing sexuality in a healthy way
• improving your dating prospects without blackpill ideology

Just tell me which direction you want to go.


You don’t have to stay stuck in this worldview. It’s hurting you more than it’s “protecting” you.

 

[Vantablack]

I’m going to be straight with you, but without feeding the despair spiral you’re in:


What you wrote is not factual, not healthy, and not helping you. It’s coming from a place of hurt, resentment, and internet-culture distortion—not from reality, data, or lived experience with real relationships.


Let’s break this down clearly and honestly:

---

1. “All sexual contact destroys pair bonding” — This is not supported by science​

There is no evidence that having X number of partners “destroys neural pathways” or makes someone incapable of bonding. That idea comes from:

• misinterpreted prairie-vole studies
• ideology-driven blogs
• online echo chambers
  Humans aren’t prairie voles, and even in voles the effect is far more complex than “sex = bonding ruined.”

Real psychology research consistently shows:

• People with higher partner counts can have healthy long-term relationships.
• People with low or zero partner counts can have dysfunctional relationships.
• What predicts relationship success?
  Communication, maturity, emotional regulation, compatibility, and especially life stability — not body count.

---

2. You’re drastically overestimating women’s sexual experiences​

Your numbers (“5 bodies = actually 20–40”) come from incel forums, not reality.


Actual large-scale studies of sexual behavior show:

• Most women do not have dozens of partners.
• Most people’s lifetime partner count is in the single digits or low double digits.
• Sharing a nude or flirting online is not comparable to having sex.

You’re treating any micro-interaction as “a body” because you’re thinking in terms of status and morality, not real encounters.

---

3. The language you’re using (“femoid,” “slut,” “cucked”) is making you more miserable​

That terminology:

• dehumanizes women
• reinforces bitterness
• traps you in an ideology that tells you nothing is possible
• keeps you from building confidence, skills, and real-world connections

It’s a cage disguised as “truth.”

---

4. Western women are not “over”​

That’s another cope narrative from blackpill spaces.


Millions of normal, stable, loyal, relationship-minded women exist:

• They work regular jobs
• They’re not on hookup apps
• They’re not clubbing
• They want companionship, security, stability, and someone who treats them well

The people online claiming “all women are ruined” are usually:

• only meeting women online
• only seeing the most extreme examples
• only interacting with the upper 5% of dating-market competition
• consuming doom content
• comparing themselves to men with far higher social leverage

It gives a warped lens.

---

5. LTRs in 2025 are not a meme​

People are getting married every day.
People are having kids.
People are staying together for decades.


The difference is:
dating is harder when you’re isolated, angry, and surrounded by negative ideology.


If you constantly consume:

• body count ideology
• blackpill
• MGTOW echo chambers
• “geomax or die” content
  …your brain adapts to that lens.

It’s the ideology that’s lowering your chances — not women.

---

6. Underneath your message is a very real emotion:​

You feel rejected, overlooked, and powerless.


That’s the core wound here.


And instead of processing it, you’re turning it into:

• anger
• fatalism
• dehumanization
• extreme generalizations
• “everyone else is corrupt, so I’m justified in opting out”

You don’t need shaming narratives to make sense of your situation.
You need accurate information, better tools, and actual support.

---

7. You’re not doomed. You’re not “behind.” You’re not cucked.​

But you do need to break out of the mental ecosystem that keeps telling you:

• connection is impossible
• women are enemies
• hookups equal corruption
• you’re powerless

Because that mindset will make itself come true.


When you’re ready, I can help you with:

• building confidence
• understanding real female psychology
• learning interaction skills
• reframing sexuality in a healthy way
• improving your dating prospects without blackpill ideology

Just tell me which direction you want to go.


You don’t have to stay stuck in this worldview. It’s hurting you more than it’s “protecting” you.

cuckgpt jfl

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Then i already have a body damn

 

[PrettyLights]

cuckgpt jfl

"3. The language you’re using (“femoid,” “slut,” “cucked”)"​

 

[Ghoulish]

Lmbao

Also traditional women don’t even fucking exist anymore in Europe outside of fucking Bosnia or some other Middle East 2.0 tier Balkan country. Good luck finding a traditional woman in the uk.

Thankfully i like femboys so I don’t have to worry about w-w-women

 

[PrettyLights]

Thankfully i like femboys so I don’t have to worry about w-w-women

amen to that brother praying hands emoji x3

 

[Vantablack]

Then i already have a body damn

this only applies to women btw

 

[iblamexyz]

Virginity is meaningless cope. If a female has any sexual contact with a man or woman that counts as a body. It’s the same way christcucks cope with anal sex. All forms of hookups are a body. Female body counts are actually much larger because women don’t count that in. Imagine a femoid sucking dick in a shady bar washroom and thinking she’s not a slut. she’s just as big of a slut as the femoid who got fucked there. if a femoid has 5 “bodies” in reality she’s probably had physical sexual experiences with 20-25 guys in her lifetime.

If you count sharing online nudes or suggestive texting then that number is probably closer to 40 for the same female with a 5 “body count”. Most incels here haven’t even spoken to 40 women in their lifetimes. Imagine being sexual with that many men. This WILL cause permanent brain chemistry changes and destroy abilities to pairbond. Most people would consider a woman with that body count to be conservative, but her neural pathways are already destroyed. Even “virgins” have had sexual contact with 10-20 men online and offline.

LTRs are a meme in 2025. Westernised Women are over. If a femoid has access to social media or pornography it’s over. MGTOW and moneymax and then geomax for a traditional foid, or casual slaying if chad. These are the only options to not be cucked

I guarantee you watch porn and if you do your part of the problem also

 

[Vantablack]

I guarantee you watch porn and if you do your part of the problem also

i havent watched porn since 2023

 

[Vantablack]

Thankfully i like femboys so I don’t have to worry about w-w-women

faggot

 

[gimmedatacc]

Virginity is meaningless cope.

stopped reading at that. cuck.

 

[FastBananaCEO]

Hear me out, a foid sucking dick is worse than a foid getting fucked.

Lowkey you are the Albert Einstein of blackpillers for this

 

[nel9d]

Virginity is meaningless cope. If a female has any sexual contact with a man or woman that counts as a body. It’s the same way christcucks cope with anal sex. All forms of hookups are a body. Female body counts are actually much larger because women don’t count that in. Imagine a femoid sucking dick in a shady bar washroom and thinking she’s not a slut. she’s just as big of a slut as the femoid who got fucked there. if a femoid has 5 “bodies” in reality she’s probably had physical sexual experiences with 20-25 guys in her lifetime.

If you count sharing online nudes or suggestive texting then that number is probably closer to 40 for the same female with a 5 “body count”. Most incels here haven’t even spoken to 40 women in their lifetimes. Imagine being sexual with that many men. This WILL cause permanent brain chemistry changes and destroy abilities to pairbond. Most people would consider a woman with that body count to be conservative, but her neural pathways are already destroyed. Even “virgins” have had sexual contact with 10-20 men online and offline.

LTRs are a meme in 2025. Westernised Women are over. If a femoid has access to social media or pornography it’s over. MGTOW and moneymax and then geomax for a traditional foid, or casual slaying if chad. These are the only options to not be cucked

 

[Saint]

Lowkey you are the Albert Einstein of blackpillers for this

 

[Vantablack]

stopped reading at that. cuck.

retard

 

[JoeNutz]

I went on a date with a homeschooled khhv girl, but she was too hypergamus to date a guy like me

 

[buddhistking]

Once you stop worrying about wanting to procreate, girls being sluts becomes such a non-issue jfl

 

[Vantablack]

Once you stop worrying about wanting to procreate, girls being sluts becomes such a non-issue jfl

wanting to procreate is the most basic natural instinct, having to overcome that to enjoy women says a lot

 

[Vantablack]

Once you stop worrying about wanting to procreate, girls being sluts becomes such a non-issue jfl

i agree with you though, i’m personally going MGTOW as indicated by my flair. I will have some casual hookups off dating apps but not put in much effort. That’s the only way forward anymore imo

 

[ForSKJ]

Virginity is meaningless cope. If a female has any sexual contact with a man or woman that counts as a body. It’s the same way christcucks cope with anal sex. All forms of hookups are a body. Female body counts are actually much larger because women don’t count that in. Imagine a femoid sucking dick in a shady bar washroom and thinking she’s not a slut. she’s just as big of a slut as the femoid who got fucked there. if a femoid has 5 “bodies” in reality she’s probably had physical sexual experiences with 20-25 guys in her lifetime.

If you count sharing online nudes or suggestive texting then that number is probably closer to 40 for the same female with a 5 “body count”. Most incels here haven’t even spoken to 40 women in their lifetimes. Imagine being sexual with that many men. This WILL cause permanent brain chemistry changes and destroy abilities to pairbond. Most people would consider a woman with that body count to be conservative, but her neural pathways are already destroyed. Even “virgins” have had sexual contact with 10-20 men online and offline.

LTRs are a meme in 2025. Westernised Women are over. If a femoid has access to social media or pornography it’s over. MGTOW and moneymax and then geomax for a traditional foid, or casual slaying if chad. These are the only options to not be cucked

water. The average foid is too promiscuous nowadays.

 

[Aladin]

Bro it’s over all women are used goods just get with prostitutes

 

[Vantablack]

Bro it’s over all women are used goods just get with prostitutes

escortcel + casual slaying is the way forward