Evidence based collagen-maxxing guide

[looks>books]

What do yall think? Bs?

(Its by chatgpt)

COLLAGEN 101 — The Basics You Need​

• Collagen = structural protein: It's the most abundant protein in your body. Makes up skin, ligaments, tendons, and connective tissue.
• Declines with age: Begins dropping around age 25–30. Accelerated by stress, sun exposure, sugar, inflammation, smoking, poor sleep.

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REAL WAYS TO BOOST COLLAGEN (Backed by Data)​

1. Retinoids (Tretinoin / Retinol) – Gold Standard​

• Mechanism: Increases fibroblast activity → more collagen type I & III.
• Proof: Dozens of peer-reviewed studies show tretinoin reverses photoaging and boosts collagen.
• How: Prescription tretinoin (0.025%–0.05%) 2–3x/week, build up slowly.
• Caveat: Can irritate skin at first. Needs SPF daily.

2. Microneedling / Dermarolling​

• Mechanism: Controlled skin injury → wound healing response → collagen induction.
• Proof: Clinical studies show increased collagen and improved skin thickness.
• Tool: Use 0.5mm–1.5mm rollers every 1–4 weeks. Sterilize. Combine with peptides or vitamin C post-needling.
• Real-world looksmax: Microneedling is used in underground aesthetics, Reddit blackpill forums, and professional dermatology clinics.

3. Vitamin C (Topical & Oral)​

• Mechanism: Required cofactor for collagen synthesis (hydroxylation of proline & lysine).
• Topical: 10–20% L-ascorbic acid serum in morning → boosts collagen + protects from sun damage.
• Oral: 500mg/day supports systemic synthesis.
• Stack: Combine with microneedling or tretinoin for synergy.

4. Collagen Peptides (Hydrolyzed Collagen)​

• Mechanism: Provides glycine, proline, hydroxyproline — amino acids collagen is made of.
• Proof: Double-blind RCTs show improvements in skin elasticity, hydration, and collagen density in 8–12 weeks.
• Protocol: 10g/day (type I & III, bovine/marine collagen). Stack with vitamin C for absorption.
• Real-world tip: Better if fasted before consumption — increases peptide uptake.

5. Glycine & Proline (Amino Acid Stack)​

• Glycine: Essential for collagen triple helix structure. Also supports sleep & GH release.
• Protocol: 3g glycine + 1g proline before bed or post-fasted workout.
• Why: Most modern diets are low in glycine-rich foods (skin, tendons, bone broth).

6. Red Light Therapy (Near-Infrared / LED)​

• Mechanism: Stimulates mitochondrial activity in dermal fibroblasts → more ATP → collagen production.
• Evidence: Meta-analyses show significant improvements in skin density and wrinkle reduction.
• Device: Look for clinical-grade 630–850nm LED panels.
• Use: 10–20 mins/day, 3–5x/week.

7. GH / IGF-1 Optimization​

• Why: Growth hormone and IGF-1 stimulate collagen synthesis and skin regeneration.
• Natural Optimization:
  • Sleep (deep sleep = GH spike)
  • Fasting (GH spikes during prolonged fasts)
  • Intense resistance training
• Advanced: Some underground users use MK-677 (secretagogue) or peptides like CJC-1295 + Ipamorelin (needs legit source, bloodwork, risk awareness).

8. Copper Peptides (GHK-Cu)​

• Mechanism: Activates wound healing genes and fibroblast activity. Increases collagen, elastin, and glycosaminoglycans.
• Studies: Shows skin thickening, wrinkle reduction.
• Use: Topical serums or microneedling adjunct. Can also be injected (advanced users only).
• Stack: Often used post-microneedling or after tretinoin off-days.

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THINGS THAT DESTROY COLLAGEN (Blackpill to Avoid)​

Factor	Mechanism of Damage
UV Radiation	Breaks down collagen via MMPs
Sugar	Glycation → stiffens collagen
Smoking	Reduces blood flow + vitamin C
Cortisol	Chronically elevated cortisol = less collagen synthesis
Lack of sleep	No GH → reduced collagen regen

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STACKS THAT WORK (Looksmax Collagen Protocols)​

Basic Stack (Science-Based)​

• Tretinoin (0.025–0.05% cream)
• Oral Collagen (10g/day) + Vitamin C (500–1000mg)
• Red Light Therapy (5x/week)

Intermediate Stack​

• Microneedling (1.0mm every 2 weeks)
• Copper Peptides post-needling
• Glycine (3g) + Proline (1g)
• Fasted cardio + collagen pre-workout

Advanced (Biohacker/Blackpill Tier)​

• Injectable peptides: CJC-1295 + Ipamorelin (GH secretagogues)
• MK-677 (daily for 3–6 months) — watch for water retention, insulin resistance
• NAD+ precursors + Rapamycin (longevity path)
• Stack with intermittent fasting + deep sleep protocol

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Final Word: Collagen Enhancement = Aesthetic Edge​

Forget gimmicks. The serious protocols above combine clinical science, biohacker edge, and underground aesthetics knowledge. Think dermal remodeling, not just supplements.

 

[Mainlander]

> GHK CU
> ISOTRET OR TAZ
> Duta
> Good diet

 

[looks>books]

@hax @hapagenes2 @KuniLowda

 

[Seong Gi-Hun]

Lost me at chatgpt
I would have reacted but I'll give u this one pass cus ur ultronmaxxing

 

[looks>books]

> GHK CU
> ISOTRET OR TAZ
> Duta
> Good diet

By duta you mean dutasteride?

 

[looks>books]

Lost me at chatgpt
I would have reacted but I'll give u this one pass cus ur ultronmaxxing

I know its chatgpt lol im not saying i made it im asking yall if yall agree with it

 

[Mainlander]

By duta you mean dutasteride?

yes

 

[looks>books]

yes

Isnt that for hair?

What would it do for collagen/skin?

 

[hax]

good thread, did everything except glycine and copper peptides but i would argue that retinoids are really the only thing you should be using if already healthy; just as prevention.

 

[Mainlander]

Isnt that for hair?

What would it do for collagen/skin?

You block DHT

DHT fucks up your skin

Thats why women often have better skin

 

[looks>books]

good thread, did everything except glycine and copper peptides but i would argue that retinoids are really the only thing you should be using if already healthy; just as prevention.

What if im trying to reverse?
Like nasolabial folds/wrinkles

 

[looks>books]

You block DHT

DHT fucks up your skin

Thats why women often have better skin

Also bro do you still think free will is an illusion?

 

[KuniLowda]

mirin

 

[looks>books]

mirin

Do you disagree with anything there?

Chat made it

 

[hax]

What if im trying to reverse?
Like nasolabial folds/wrinkles

my mom graced me with horrid malar fat pads and extreme wrinkles i couldn't stare at myself. I'm getting fat grafting probably later on but i started using "retinal seoul 1988 serum - ksecret" and there has been a huge difference since. It won't just instantly ascend you but its effects are impressive.

 

[Mainlander]

Also bro do you still think free will is an illusion?

I bumped the thread look at my comment there

 

[KuniLowda]

Do you disagree with anything there?

Chat made it

GPT doesnt lie. GHK Cu combined with accutane is a game changer as well.

 

[ss07]

gpt not a trash guide i guess

 

[naturalselector420]

Lost me at chatgpt

 

[looks>books]

gpt not a trash guide i guess

Im not claiming i made it lol

 

[FlotPSL]

Also bro do you still think free will is an illusion?

Yes nigga ofc its an illusion

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[Proex]

good thread, mirin the reaserch

 

[looks>books]

my mom graced me with horrid malar fat pads and extreme wrinkles i couldn't stare at myself. I'm getting fat grafting probably later on but i started using "retinal seoul 1988 serum - ksecret" and there has been a huge difference since. It won't just instantly ascend you but its effects are impressive.

Will try it thanks

 

[looks>books]

Bump

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

my mom graced me with horrid malar fat pads and extreme wrinkles i couldn't stare at myself. I'm getting fat grafting probably later on but i started using "retinal seoul 1988 serum - ksecret" and there has been a huge difference since. It won't just instantly ascend you but its effects are impressive.

Do you think this would work for extremely hollow underyes? Basically I have no underye fat

 

[hax]

Do you think this would work for extremely hollow underyes? Basically I have no underye fat

i have the same thing, i tried it and my under eyes got irritated as shit, this unfortunately doesn't work and only surgery could fix that don't trust those volufiline ads either.

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

i have the same thing, i tried it and my under eyes got irritated as shit, this unfortunately doesn't work and only surgery could fix that don't trust those volufiline ads either.

I meant the serum you were talking about

 

[hax]

I meant the serum you were talking about

my bad, i didn't make this clear. I used the serum under my eyes and the only thing it did was irritate my under eyes, do not try it it doesn't do shit. And don't get volufiline instead because i know you're going to stubble upon it when searching for another solution, it's a scam.

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

my bad, i didn't make this clear. I used the serum under my eyes and the only thing it did was irritate my under eyes, do not try it it doesn't do shit. And don't get volufiline instead because i know you're going to stubble upon it when searching for another solution, it's a scam.

but you said that it gave you impressive results

 

[hax]

but you said that it gave you impressive results

i was talking about the nasolabial folds/smile lines but it doesn't help the under eye in the slightest (at least from my experience).

 

[hapagenes2]

yea all pretty much good, it should've really added PRP, Exosome and PN treaments, stem cells, and pdos. I think by far if you have the money this and a retinoid + GHK cu will get your skin maxxed as much as possible

 

[looks>books]

yea all pretty much good, it should've really added PRP, Exosome and PN treaments, stem cells, and pdos. I think by far if you have the money this and a retinoid + GHK cu will get your skin maxxed as much as possible

Do you have an before after oic of your skin?