Evidence that CHEWING CHANGES MANDIBULAR SHAPE

[Deleted member 1901]

Forceful mastication activates osteocytes and builds a stout jawbone - Scientific Reports

Bone undergoes a constant reconstruction process of resorption and formation called bone remodeling, so that it can endure mechanical loading. During food ingestion, masticatory muscles generate the required masticatory force. The magnitude of applied masticatory force has long been believed to...

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The author says that it’s indicated that bone formation is increased in response to mechanical stress by inhibiting sclerostin produced by the local osteocytes as well as increasing secretion of IGF-1 by the local osteocytes. Sclerostin is a protein which inhibits bone formation. You should all know what IGF-1 is. If not, you can use a search engine to find out. I thought that it would interesting to know the mechanism of increased bone formation.


“In the mandibular bone after loading, there was a prominent extrusion of the masseteric ridge and a shortening of the mandibular ramus”

I found the above quote to be interesting because most of us would like a taller ramus, not a shorter one. Of course mice are different than humans and have a differently shaped mandible, but nevertheless I would speculate that humans would have similar results. Interestingly, this is supported by my personal experience: my right gonion is higher up than my left, and I chewed more on my right side growing up. Now, it is possible that this is an illusion due to my whole right side being pushed upward, which I did notice.

The below quote is another good one.

“Our in silicoremodeling simulation showed that a mechanical load imposed by the masseter muscle results in a bone phenotype similar to that of a human exhibiting strong occlusal force (Fig. 2c,d), indicating masticatory force is a causative factor in different facial patterns. Subsequent in vivo micro-CT analysis revealed that increased mastication leads to a mandibular bone phenotype that highly resembles the one that was simulated”



The figure below (sourced from outside the study) displays the phenotypes that I speculate could be developed by applying the corresponding levels of masticatory forces and loading (correlated with masseter development) Contrarily to the mouse models, this does doesn’t show shortening of the mandibular ramus. The limitations to this study is that it was not a longitudinal study. Therefore, it is impossible to know whether development of the masseter led to the differing shapes of the mandible seen or whether the differing shapes seen were caused by another factor associated with masster development.

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Human mandibular shape is associated with masticatory muscle force - Scientific Reports

Understanding how and to what extent forces applied to the mandible by the masticatory muscles influence its form, is of considerable importance from clinical, anthropological and evolutionary perspectives. This study investigates these questions. Head CT scans of 382 adults were utilized to...

www.nature.com

 

[Schizomogger]

DNR chatgpt fag

 

[spark]

in adults?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

DNR chatgpt fag

Kys

This is a serious thread

I did not use chatGTP

 

[IndianMewingChad69]

one of most legit things u can do, good thread

 

[ripcordgod1]

already experiencing bone apposition and a growing antigonial notch from clenching i cant believe retards tried to gatekeep this and tell me i had to do some shitty surgeries to get outward gonions

 

[omarthegoat195]

Forceful mastication activates osteocytes and builds a stout jawbone - Scientific Reports

Bone undergoes a constant reconstruction process of resorption and formation called bone remodeling, so that it can endure mechanical loading. During food ingestion, masticatory muscles generate the required masticatory force. The magnitude of applied masticatory force has long been believed to...

www.nature.com

The author says that it’s indicated that bone formation is increased in response to mechanical stress by inhibiting sclerostin produced by the local osteocytes as well as increasing secretion of IGF-1 by the local osteocytes. Sclerostin is a protein which inhibits bone formation. You should all know what IGF-1 is. If not, you can use a search engine to find out. I thought that it would interesting to know the mechanism of increased bone formation.


“In the mandibular bone after loading, there was a prominent extrusion of the masseteric ridge and a shortening of the mandibular ramus”

I found the above quote to be interesting because most of us would like a taller ramus, not a shorter one. Of course mice are different than humans and have a differently shaped mandible, but nevertheless I would speculate that humans would have similar results. Interestingly, this is supported by my personal experience: my right gonion is higher up than my left, and I chewed more on my right side growing up. Now, it is possible that this is an illusion due to my whole right side being pushed upward, which I did notice.

The below quote is another good one.

“Our in silicoremodeling simulation showed that a mechanical load imposed by the masseter muscle results in a bone phenotype similar to that of a human exhibiting strong occlusal force (Fig. 2c,d), indicating masticatory force is a causative factor in different facial patterns. Subsequent in vivo micro-CT analysis revealed that increased mastication leads to a mandibular bone phenotype that highly resembles the one that was simulated”



The figure below (sourced from outside the study) displays the phenotypes that I speculate could be developed by applying the corresponding levels of masticatory forces and loading (correlated with masseter development) Contrarily to the mouse models, this does doesn’t show shortening of the mandibular ramus. The limitations to this study is that it was not a longitudinal study. Therefore, it is impossible to know whether development of the masseter led to the differing shapes of the mandible seen or whether the differing shapes seen were caused by another factor associated with masster development.
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Human mandibular shape is associated with masticatory muscle force - Scientific Reports

Understanding how and to what extent forces applied to the mandible by the masticatory muscles influence its form, is of considerable importance from clinical, anthropological and evolutionary perspectives. This study investigates these questions. Head CT scans of 382 adults were utilized to...

www.nature.com

does it say the age where it actually works tho

 

[nulll]

Ive been chewing mastic 8 hrs a day for almost 2 years and I definitely see changes in the ramus and mandible

 

[nulll]

does it say the age where it actually works tho

during puberty works the best after puberty it still can help

 

[omarthegoat195]

during puberty works the best after puberty it still can help

yea that’s why i wish i knew this stuff when i was like 13 so i could take the most advantage of it but at least it’s still not too late since i’m 16

 

[Deleted member 1901]

in adults?

does it say the age where it actually works tho

Ok maybe my title is clickbaity.

The mice were aged 3 weeks at the start.

But it’s still strong evidence that loading the mandible through mastication changes mandibular shape in children.

 

[gribsufer1]

bonesmashing mogs

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Forceful mastication activates osteocytes and builds a stout jawbone - Scientific Reports

Bone undergoes a constant reconstruction process of resorption and formation called bone remodeling, so that it can endure mechanical loading. During food ingestion, masticatory muscles generate the required masticatory force. The magnitude of applied masticatory force has long been believed to...

www.nature.com

The author says that it’s indicated that bone formation is increased in response to mechanical stress by inhibiting sclerostin produced by the local osteocytes as well as increasing secretion of IGF-1 by the local osteocytes. Sclerostin is a protein which inhibits bone formation. You should all know what IGF-1 is. If not, you can use a search engine to find out. I thought that it would interesting to know the mechanism of increased bone formation.


“In the mandibular bone after loading, there was a prominent extrusion of the masseteric ridge and a shortening of the mandibular ramus”

I found the above quote to be interesting because most of us would like a taller ramus, not a shorter one. Of course mice are different than humans and have a differently shaped mandible, but nevertheless I would speculate that humans would have similar results. Interestingly, this is supported by my personal experience: my right gonion is higher up than my left, and I chewed more on my right side growing up. Now, it is possible that this is an illusion due to my whole right side being pushed upward, which I did notice.

The below quote is another good one.

“Our in silicoremodeling simulation showed that a mechanical load imposed by the masseter muscle results in a bone phenotype similar to that of a human exhibiting strong occlusal force (Fig. 2c,d), indicating masticatory force is a causative factor in different facial patterns. Subsequent in vivo micro-CT analysis revealed that increased mastication leads to a mandibular bone phenotype that highly resembles the one that was simulated”



The figure below (sourced from outside the study) displays the phenotypes that I speculate could be developed by applying the corresponding levels of masticatory forces and loading (correlated with masseter development) Contrarily to the mouse models, this does doesn’t show shortening of the mandibular ramus. The limitations to this study is that it was not a longitudinal study. Therefore, it is impossible to know whether development of the masseter led to the differing shapes of the mandible seen or whether the differing shapes seen were caused by another factor associated with masster development.
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Human mandibular shape is associated with masticatory muscle force - Scientific Reports

Understanding how and to what extent forces applied to the mandible by the masticatory muscles influence its form, is of considerable importance from clinical, anthropological and evolutionary perspectives. This study investigates these questions. Head CT scans of 382 adults were utilized to...

www.nature.com

Brb, ordering 10 pounds of dog bones to chew on.

 

[ascendedd]

just clench hard instead of chewing

 

[Deleted member 1901]

just clench hard instead of chewing

That’s what I do. I use a towel. I only do my left side, for I’m trying to shorten that side of my maxilla exclusively. No results so far in that regard.

 

[Deleted member 25743]

just clench hard instead of chewing

Without mouthguard?

 

[AspiringMogger]

Forceful mastication activates osteocytes and builds a stout jawbone - Scientific Reports

Bone undergoes a constant reconstruction process of resorption and formation called bone remodeling, so that it can endure mechanical loading. During food ingestion, masticatory muscles generate the required masticatory force. The magnitude of applied masticatory force has long been believed to...

www.nature.com

The author says that it’s indicated that bone formation is increased in response to mechanical stress by inhibiting sclerostin produced by the local osteocytes as well as increasing secretion of IGF-1 by the local osteocytes. Sclerostin is a protein which inhibits bone formation. You should all know what IGF-1 is. If not, you can use a search engine to find out. I thought that it would interesting to know the mechanism of increased bone formation.


“In the mandibular bone after loading, there was a prominent extrusion of the masseteric ridge and a shortening of the mandibular ramus”

I found the above quote to be interesting because most of us would like a taller ramus, not a shorter one. Of course mice are different than humans and have a differently shaped mandible, but nevertheless I would speculate that humans would have similar results. Interestingly, this is supported by my personal experience: my right gonion is higher up than my left, and I chewed more on my right side growing up. Now, it is possible that this is an illusion due to my whole right side being pushed upward, which I did notice.

The below quote is another good one.

“Our in silicoremodeling simulation showed that a mechanical load imposed by the masseter muscle results in a bone phenotype similar to that of a human exhibiting strong occlusal force (Fig. 2c,d), indicating masticatory force is a causative factor in different facial patterns. Subsequent in vivo micro-CT analysis revealed that increased mastication leads to a mandibular bone phenotype that highly resembles the one that was simulated”



The figure below (sourced from outside the study) displays the phenotypes that I speculate could be developed by applying the corresponding levels of masticatory forces and loading (correlated with masseter development) Contrarily to the mouse models, this does doesn’t show shortening of the mandibular ramus. The limitations to this study is that it was not a longitudinal study. Therefore, it is impossible to know whether development of the masseter led to the differing shapes of the mandible seen or whether the differing shapes seen were caused by another factor associated with masster development.
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Human mandibular shape is associated with masticatory muscle force - Scientific Reports

Understanding how and to what extent forces applied to the mandible by the masticatory muscles influence its form, is of considerable importance from clinical, anthropological and evolutionary perspectives. This study investigates these questions. Head CT scans of 382 adults were utilized to...

www.nature.com

I used to be obese when I was younger (I ate a lot of food). And now my ramus is very tall and my mandible is forward grown. This doesn’t work past puberty though

 

[Graham]

The mice were aged 3 weeks at the start.

Start clenching in the womb looksminner.

 

[Deleted member 1901]

This doesn’t work past puberty though

Proof? Exactly.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Proof? Exactly.

Not a significant amount at least. The biggest ROI will be in and before puberty

 

[DR. NICKGA]

already experiencing bone apposition and a growing antigonial notch from clenching i cant believe retards tried to gatekeep this and tell me i had to do some shitty surgeries to get outward gonions

guide on clenching?

 

[mecha72]

already experiencing bone apposition and a growing antigonial notch from clenching i cant believe retards tried to gatekeep this and tell me i had to do some shitty surgeries to get outward gonions

imagine your father had you chewing gum from the age of 10 mogger gonians

 

[Deleted member 17595]

water

 

[Deleted member 1901]

imagine your father had you chewing gum from the age of 10 mogger gonians

Why 10? Ideally you should start as soon as you are able to.

 

[mecha72]

Why 10? Ideally you should start as soon as you are able to.

Gonna turn my kids into moggers inshallah

 

[It'snotover]

It works after puberty too, changes just takes much more time and will be smaller. @5.5psl made a thread about this too

 

[andy9432]

Mouthhguard clenching is legit. I use it everytime Im in the gym

 

[TheVictor]

already experiencing bone apposition and a growing antigonial notch from clenching i cant believe retards tried to gatekeep this and tell me i had to do some shitty surgeries to get outward gonions

What do you do for clenching is there a guide

 

[Allornothing]

already experiencing bone apposition and a growing antigonial notch from clenching i cant believe retards tried to gatekeep this and tell me i had to do some shitty surgeries to get outward gonions

Dn rd op but I suspect chewing directs growth up to ~age 20 when the mandible stops the majority of its growth. At the end of the day gonial flare and notch is probably still determined by genes but most people haven’t reached their genetic potential.

 

[ripcordgod1]

Dn rd op but I suspect chewing directs growth up to ~age 20 when the mandible stops the majority of its growth. At the end of the day gonial flare and notch is probably still determined by genes but most people haven’t reached their genetic potential.

yes bro its all genes in the end bro fr fr ong

 

[letsdoit]

Ive been chewing mastic 8 hrs a day for almost 2 years and I definitely see changes in the ramus and mandible

8 hrs a day is insane, i’ve been doing 1 hour for the past year and seen insane gains, can you post before / after pics

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Water, this has been known for ages but it's only small changes and doesn't say about adults

 

[CalulArgintiu59]

8 hrs a day is insane, i’ve been doing 1 hour for the past year and seen insane gains, can you post before / after pics

Bro I chew mastic gum about 20minutes and I get very sore, I still saw results.Are u guys monsters how the fuck did he chew for 8 hours and not got tmj, I think he is lying

 

[letsdoit]

Bro I chew mastic gum about 20minutes and I get very sore, I still saw results.Are u guys monsters how the fuck did he chew for 8 hours and not got tmj, I think he is lying

Yeah bro mastic for 20 minutes will give you results, 8 hours is insane, can’t even imagine that

 

[Deleted member 32669]

did you grow mandible from chewing @Ekil73_YT

 

[garfyld]

It does wonders while you are in puberty after puberty you will gain only slight hypertrophy

 

[Deleted member 30411]

Gonna turn my kids into moggers inshallah

warya

 

[Deleted member 1901]

did you grow mandible from chewing @Ekil73_YT

Idk

 

[Dr SmalCox]

btw dont bonesmash gonions. EVER. i made a huge mistake bonesmashing them, they look great for the first 15 minutes after bonesmashing but after the initial swelling, the lymph nodes become swollen and your "gains" go away and are now met with swollen lymph nodes and a bloated face. I couldnt fucking breathe for 2 days bc my lymph nodes blocked my nasal airways. Just chew, youll get outward gonions due to bone apposition naturally. never bonesmash your mandibular area or anywhere near nasal bridge.