Evolution is mostly random, over for sexual selectioncels

[6ft4]

 

[hypernormie]

No shit, interacting with normies for any length of time should have been enough of to convince you that evolution is a random and purposeless process.

 

[Chadeep]

Yeah explains why Ugly Couples make mogger kids.

 

[Deleted member 6825]

Evolution is a cruel dumb force

 

[looksmaxxed]

that video dysgenic jew cope tbh

also dnw

 

[nathan]

did you even watch the video? the video still says natural selection is the most important part of evolution.

 

[Never Get Up]

Cope

Looks = health

 

[MaghrebGator]

Randomness doesn't exist. It's just a way to describe ignorance without sounding that dumb.

 

[hattrick]

sexual selection is just chad from the future brainwashing women into forcing him into reality

 

[New Poster]

over for spandrelcels

 

[6ft4]

Good post here, cba adding my own takes to this things from now on

 

[hypernormie]

Randomness doesn't exist. It's just a way to describe ignorance without sounding that dumb.

Most people aren’t trying to look smart when they use the term random so saying they are trying to not sound “dumb” is a misinterpretation. Calling something random is just a convenient way to describe a process so complex that no discernible pattern of cause and effect can be ascertained. Most of the time the term is not used by people who are concerned with answering the question of whether or not true spontaneity exists in the universe, they are simply saying that it’s not worth your effort to try and understand the underlying mechanism behind how something works.

 

[hypernormie]

Cope

Looks = health

Obviously the phenotypes that persist will be the more healthy relative to those that don’t exist but the whole point here is that evolution does not seek to optimize any particular trait, not even health.

Humans could theoretically be 100x healthier out of the womb than the healthiest human that currently exists but because there is no direct selection for maximizing health, we simply aren’t. There are vague selections for signs of health in humans but people don’t sexually select to maximize one particular trait and must constantly make compromises in doing so. Not to mention there are various limiting factors in maximizing certain individually valuable traits. A trait may be very beneficial for you as an individual to have but be detrimental on the whole if present in the entire species.

There is no directive in evolution. The primary rule is that if something increases the chances of reproduction it will tend to persist over time because reproduction is the barrier to entry when it comes to existing. Fail to cross that barrier, no matter how “optimal” your traits are, and those optimal traits will reduce in number. You can see this already when it comes to high IQ where the smarter you get the less likely you are to have a bunch of kids. being super smart tends to lead people down life paths that are antithetical to having tons of kids, ensuring that the average intelligence remains relatively low compared to what we know is possible.

 

[incel194012940]

thats why the average human is ugly and the average lion mogs hard

 

[piec]

Randomness doesn't exist. It's just a way to describe ignorance without sounding that dumb.

if there are more than 2 independent factors everything becomes absolutely impossible to predict. its what you would classify as "random"

 

[MaghrebGator]

Most people aren’t trying to look smart when they use the term random so saying they are trying to not sound “dumb” is a misinterpretation. Calling something random is just a convenient way to describe a process so complex that no discernible pattern of cause and effect can be ascertained. Most of the time the term is not used by people who are concerned with answering the question of whether or not true spontaneity exists in the universe, they are simply saying that it’s not worth your effort to try and understand the underlying mechanism behind how something works.

Yeah, so as stated it's a way of saying "We are ignorant about the process, so we will say randomness to sound as if we are not actually ignorant about it and we have cracked the code"

if there are more than 2 independent factors everything becomes absolutely impossible to predict. its what you would classify as "random"

Absolutely nothing is impossible to predict with the proper tools and knowledge, but whether that is inside the potential of a human being or not is a different story. I'm not against using the term randomness, it's just ridiculous how they use it for evolution or other issues like the Big Bang. They could just answer "We don't know" or "We can't know" instead of "Because of Randomness", but that is apparently prohibited.

 

[hypernormie]

Yeah, so as stated it's a way of saying "We are ignorant about the process, so we will say randomness to sound as if we are not actually ignorant about it and we have cracked the code"

You are equating far more to an innocuous term than actually exists

When people say something is random all they are doing is implying that whatever process they are referring to is too complicated to be worth trying to understand

It’s for all intents and purposes random, they don’t mean it is literally random. Most people have never thought about the nature of causality enough to even have an opinion one way or the other.

You sound autistic. Are you going to tell someone that says the lottery is random that they are trying to not sound dumb? You would sound dumb for even suggesting such a thing.