FAGGA, MSE, DNA APPLIANCE ETC. Get ITT u bastards

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I wanted to get an ultimate VS thread going here boys. MSE, FAGGA, DNA APPLIANCE? Which is best in your opinion? Are certain ones likely to give you certain results for different areas of the face? What are the drawbacks of these and have you tried any yourself? Feel free to go off
 
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I'm never using an appliance named FAGGA son
 
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MSE mogs both
 
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If you read this forum for more than 2 seconds you wouldnt even made this thread
 
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FAGGA is provably faulty.
 
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That's pretty cool man
 
DNA is not even in the same league,
FAGGA creates more tooth movement, not bone.

MSE is ideal, if what you want is true bone growth in palatal expansion (especially past the growing age).
 
DNA is not even in the same league,
FAGGA creates more tooth movement, not bone.

MSE is ideal, if what you want is true bone growth in palatal expansion (especially past the growing age).
Interesting. Do you any one who tried any of these? Were the results good? We're there any side effects? Sorry for all the questions I'm new to looksmax
 
Interesting. Do you any one who tried any of these? Were the results good? We're there any side effects? Sorry for all the questions I'm new to looksmax
Ronald Ead tried FAGGA, did MSE afterwards.

Now he regrets having spent so much time and money on FAGGA (it’s also a much longer treatment and yields inferior results), and wishes he’d have done MSE from the get go.

Google Ronald Ead and you can find his blog and yt channel where he has posts and videos explaining everything.
 
Ronald Ead tried FAGGA, did MSE afterwards.

Now he regrets having spent so much time and money on FAGGA (it’s also a much longer treatment and yields inferior results), and wishes he’d have done MSE from the get go.

Google Ronald Ead and you can find his blog and yt channel where he has posts and videos explaining everything.
Thank you I'll check it out!
 
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Jfl at pp who think that MSE is a small easy thing to have like braces

Its like 20k, very invasive surgery , may be painfull too.
 
Jfl at pp who think that MSE is a small easy thing to have like braces

Its like 20k, very invasive surgery , may be painfull too.
Having spoken to multiple MSE practitioners. I’ve never gotten a cost estimate nearly that high,

Its slightly more painful than braces (braces hurt too)

And among the kinds of surgeries done, getting MSE installed is incredibly mild and calling it “very invasive” implies the only surgery you’d ever get in your life would be a hairtransplant.
 
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Having spoken to multiple MSE practitioners. I’ve never gotten a cost estimate nearly that high,

Its slightly more painful than braces (braces hurt too)

And among the kinds of surgeries done, getting MSE installed is incredibly mild and calling it “very invasive” implies the only surgery you’d ever get in your life would be a hairtransplant.

Anyway with 20k itsbetter to blast HGH + facepulling + palate expanding.
 
Anyway with 20k itsbetter to blast HGH + facepulling + palate expanding.
If you have 20K, you could spend whatever is needed for MSE, then the rest of that on what you listed. That’s the best way to go. Nothing, and I repeat, nothing, opens the midfacial sutures like MSE does, which would make for the very best base for facepulling possible.
 
If you have 20K, you could spend whatever is needed for MSE, then the rest of that on what you listed. That’s the best way to go. Nothing, and I repeat, nothing, opens the midfacial sutures like MSE does, which would make for the very best base for facepulling possible.

Mse will not make you look good unless your face is extremly narrow. . Or i need exemples.
With 20k i would rhino+ zygos implant anddentaire then hgh and facepulling.
 
Mse will not make you look good unless your face is extremly narrow. . Or i need exemples.
With 20k i would rhino+ zygos implant anddentaire then hgh and facepulling.
You don’t need to expand like 10 mm with MSE, you can just install it, expand maybe 4-6mm (enough to not have to expand your lower arch or to noticeably widen the face), and all the sutures across the midface will be loosened, which makes for optimum face pulling. It would do more for facepulling than any mount of injected hgh will do on someone past the growing age. This is a fact.

if you want to facepull, and can afford MSE but won’t get it out of fear of “invasiveness” or thinking hgh will help you more, you’re either coping in the first instance, or wrong in the second.
 
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You don’t need to expand like 10 mm with MSE, you can just install it, expand maybe 4-6mm (enough to not have to expand your lower arch or to noticeably widen the face), and all the sutures across the midface will be loosened, which makes for optimum face pulling. It would do more for facepulling than any mount of injected hgh will do on someone past the growing age. This is a fact.

if you want to facepull, and can afford MSE but won’t get it out of fear of “invasiveness” or thinking hgh will help you more, you’re either coping in the first instance, or wrong in the second.

Unfortunaly i dont have 20k to spend , but do you have some before after ? And i know hgh will not make your maxilla wider but it will have aa ton of benefice like bones growth , skin imporivepent , hair ect who will make you look better than any MSE devices .

But yeah , on the topic of having aa wider maxilla , MSE is obviously the best. I just talked about the whole looksmaxxing thing.
 
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You don’t need to expand like 10 mm with MSE, you can just install it, expand maybe 4-6mm (enough to not have to expand your lower arch or to noticeably widen the face), and all the sutures across the midface will be loosened, which makes for optimum face pulling. It would do more for facepulling than any mount of injected hgh will do on someone past the growing age. This is a fact.

if you want to facepull, and can afford MSE but won’t get it out of fear of “invasiveness” or thinking hgh will help you more, you’re either coping in the first instance, or wrong in the second.
if the orthodontist installs me MSE, should she have a facepull device too? or is it something very little known?
 
if the orthodontist installs me MSE, should she have a facepull device too? or is it something very little known?
It’s possible for her to modify the MSE to use a facepuller. Ronald Ead got his modified by his ortho (you can check on his blog).

@GoMadAndSTFU I’ll reply to you later
 
It’s possible for her to modify the MSE to use a facepuller. Ronald Ead got his modified by his ortho (you can check on his blog).

@GoMadAndSTFU I’ll reply to you later

Alright bro , i dont need replies . You are right about the mse .
 
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You don’t need to expand like 10 mm with MSE, you can just install it, expand maybe 4-6mm (enough to not have to expand your lower arch or to noticeably widen the face), and all the sutures across the midface will be loosened, which makes for optimum face pulling. It would do more for facepulling than any mount of injected hgh will do on someone past the growing age. This is a fact.

if you want to facepull, and can afford MSE but won’t get it out of fear of “invasiveness” or thinking hgh will help you more, you’re either coping in the first instance, or wrong in the second.
I know this thread has dust on it already haha but I just wanted to ask if you know of any other examples or great results or before and after pictures of people using MSE? What does it mean exactly to facepull after MSE what does that entail?
 
It’s possible for her to modify the MSE to use a facepuller. Ronald Ead got his modified by his ortho (you can check on his blog).

@GoMadAndSTFU I’ll reply to you later
how much total mm widening did Ronald Ead achieve with MSE and the other stuff he did?
is 20 mm possible on a 2nd MSE or SARPE?
 

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