Failed Consultation with Dr. Defranc, its over

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Last week I Had a Consultation with Dr. Joel Defranc. As you know I have Masseter Hypertrophy from too much chewing chewing gum. What I asked for was Surgical Masseter reduction.

I actually went to Antwerpen, Belgium to See him in Person. He gave a very old Look, but was very friendly and very honest. I told him I have Natural wide cheekbones but ruined my face by too much chewing. He examined my face, touched my Masseters and told me that my Masseters arent that "thick". He Said Surgical Masseter reduction is irreversible and only suited for more severe cases and he also explained too me exactly how such a surgery would Look Like. He advised me to continue using Botox and told me that in the Long Term the Masseters would shrink and I would win. The Consultation lasted Like 30 minutes and was Held in english despite that He Unserstands some german. Since He is the expert, I agreed with him in the end to continue using Botox. He also argued that Botox is almost riskfree and much safer than surgery and that He doesnt want to "harm" me. I asked how many Surgical masseter reductions He Made in His Career. He replied it was 6 Times. In the end He Said He was sorry that I came all the way from Germany and that he couldnt Help me. Since He is super old, it sometimes felt Like He Fell asleep. Lol

I again write that he gave a very friendly and Open Look. Im saying this because some Users Said He is rather harsh.

In conclusion for me:
I was very devasted that I went all the way to Belgium with No positive Outcome. He was one of the few surgeons I knew that used to do These sugeries and located Close to me. Also: I wasted Like 600+€ Just for travel by train, Hotel and food.

Fun fact is that some days ago, a User Here used to contact Dr. Defranc and His staff. The staff replied that Dr. Defranc Has retired by now. Literally Just 1 week after I consulted him. Lol pretty weird. So even If He agreed to perform surgery on me on that day, Most likely it would get cancelled anyway. So maybe it was a sign to me to not undergo such surgery and Accept the Opinion of defranc and zarrinbal since Botox Has fewer Risks. I am thinking about that quite offen now and maybe it is better that way. Here is the Proof. Marije is the lovely Woman working for Dr. Defranc. Very friendly.
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But deep down I am still sad about my face and the whole Situation. I Just want my old face Back and Wish anyone would perform surgery on me. I Just want my old Looks Back minus the Nose. Chewing was the mistake of my live. And I am the Guy responsible for that mistake... I think its over. I have No other Options legt.



What do you Guys think about the Consultation and the whole Situation?
Belgium is a weird country btw, half dutch, half french basically. Lol. Germany is so much better.

I want to hear your opinions.
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You flew 7,000 miles to have an old gay guy tell you your cheek jowls were a normal size

nigga what the fuck
 
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You are probably bloated or have very resistent buccal fat which both are common for caucasians if you don’t workout and sit around at home

After fixing these issues your cheekbones will be seen
 
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If you want I can perform the surgery on you for free you just come visit me
 
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You flew 7,000 miles to have an old gay guy tell you your cheek jowls were a normal size

nigga what the fuck
I have to Point Out that I am using Botox against Masseters since end 2020 and indeed my Masseters arent that thick anymore. However they are not normal sized either. He also didnt say my Masseters we're small, He only Said its Not that severe and that Botox was better.
I can still feel the pressure of the Masseters when I eat for example.

Also I didnt flew, I went by train
 
You are probably bloated or have very resistent buccal fat which both are common for caucasians if you don’t workout and sit around at home

After fixing these issues your cheekbones will be seen
I shoulndt have tagged you. Lol.
Its 100 percent caused by Masseters.... I have before/Afters..
 
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I shoulndt have tagged you. Lol.
Its 100 percent caused by Masseters.... I before/Afters..
Dont worry you come visit me I will do the surgery for free I am an expert in these things.
 
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Not sure why Defranq has a decent reputation among some of you. Nearly all of the results I've seen from him look legitimately awful.
 
Not sure why Defranq has a decent reputation among some of you. Nearly all of the results I've seen from him look legitimately awful.
Surgical Masseter reduction is Not a big thing. It Just removes some of the chewing muscle. Its Not Like Putting a implant
 
Did you saw any bone changes from chewing too much like ramus remodeling as there are theories on it
 
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Did you saw any bone changes from chewing too much like ramus remodeling as there are theories on it
No, bone is exactly the same as I can Tell it. Btw. The isnt the Problem. I have mogger Bones. Its the Masseter giving me a bloated look
 
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Surgical Masseter reduction is Not a big thing. It Just removes some of the chewing muscle. Its Not Like Putting a implant
Then there should be plenty of other doctors who could perform the surgery.
 
Defrancq is one of the few who performed these type of mass. reduction surgeries. I thinks his advice is valuable despite him apparantly retiring aswell. He offered me PEEK gonial angle surgery for April 23 (which I declined) so I guess he stops his consultation but probably will finish his surgeries later.

The masseter muscle (and sling) can be comprised easily during surgery. It's a major risk, I would stick with the botox frankly. Just not enough surgeons out there who have enough experience with this procedure.

Also, you are a man. You benefit from a wide jaw, just make sure to balance your other facial proportions accordingly (perhaps with a coulple of syringes of filler or a PEEK zygo implant - which are generally much safer than PEEK jaw implants due lesser infection risk).

Stay safe!
 
Do you happen to look like this?

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also jfl at spending €600 to get from Germany to Belgium
 
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