Fat people are retarded liars and should kill themselves

[TiktokUser]

People who are overweight or obese are often blatant hypocritical liars who lack any in depth knowledge in nutrition or dieting. They claim that their condition is due to biological or medical reasons, such as a slower metabolism. Which is incredibly misleading, and for some reason, nobody ever calls them out on it.

Obese individuals have a HIGHER resting metabolic rate, than those of somebody average weight. This is because their bodies require more energy to maintain a larger mass.

Energy metabolism in human obesity - PubMed

Obesity results from a chronic imbalance between energy intake and expenditure. Accurate measurements of total energy expenditure of lean and obese individuals with a respiration chamber have clearly shown that obese individuals expand more energy than lean sedentary subjects. Studies on the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is basic middle school biology yet they STILL blatantly lie, because they cannot grasp these simple concepts. It is this simple when it comes to weight loss, a balance between calorie intake and calorie expenditure, not just resting metabolism. Larger bodies burn more calories simply to maintain their mass, EVEN at rest.

People who are overweight may have more muscle mass than an average person, which in in return increases their metabolism. Larger organs and greater heart, lung, and liver activity also contribute to a higher calorie burn.

There is scientifical data to show that obese individuals underreported their calorie intake and overestimated their physical activies. A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1992 found that overweight individuals underreported their calorie intake by an average of 47% and overestimated their physical activity by about 51%.

Discrepancy between self-reported and actual caloric intake and exercise in obese subjects - PubMed

The failure of some obese subjects to lose weight while eating a diet they report as low in calories is due to an energy intake substantially higher than reported and an overestimation of physical activity, not to an abnormality in thermogenesis.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

They always then try to point to conditions like hypothyroidism, PCOS, and other hormonal imbalances as the root cause of their weight gain. While yes, these conditions can make weight loss more challenging, they STILL do not violate the basic principles of thermodynamics. The effect of these conditions on metabolism is typically small (100-300 calories per day), and is not enough to justify significant weight gain. Most weight gain results from CONSISTENT overeating and lack of physical activity.
You really think a German Jew in WWII would be fat slob? They can never admit fault though, because they’re LIARS.

“muh but processed food cheaper than healthy “

Fast food is only cheaper at first glance due to its low upfront cost and convenience, it’s often not the most cost effective option when actually analyzed in depth, but these fatties can’t even do that

The notion of “affordability” is actually from the immediate satisfaction it provides, with having no preparation or cooking time required.

Example

A fast food meal from McDonald’s may cost around $12–$15, which feels like a reasonable price for a meal. However, this cost is for a single meal that may only provide 500–600 calories, and this price is inflated due to the convenience of not having to cook.

When you cook at home, you can purchase ingredients that offer far more meals at a lower cost per calorie.

A bag of rice, can cost around $10 and provide enough servings for several meals, producing roughly $3–$5 per meal when paired with other ingredients like vegetables and protein sources such as ground beef or chicken.
A dozen eggs, $4–$5, can provide several meals. If we compare the actual cost per calorie, cooking at home becomes much more affordable.
Rice, ground beef, and vegetables can cost around $3–$5 for a similar 500–600 calorie meal, making it significantly cheaper than a fast food option that would cost 2–3 times that amount.

Buying these ingredients in bulk allows for cost savings over time, as these ingredients can be used in multiple meals.

In conclusion. Fatties are not primary obese due to their genetics or other factors at play. What they really need to do is put down the

 

[TiktokUser]

“I’m a fat retard who thinks saying DNRD will make me lose a pound “

 

[Wexilarious]

 

[greycelzoomer]

@silently_said @Greypiller

 

[134applesauce456]

but ngl I see some fat people who genuinely barely eat, like they eat less then me

so I am inclined to believe genetics may have a role sometimes

 

[TiktokUser]

but ngl I see some fat people who genuinely barely eat, like they eat less then me

so I am inclined to believe genetics may have a role sometimes

nigga didnt even the thread before he said dumb shit like this. I literally disprove that

 

[134applesauce456]

nigga didnt even the thread before he said dumb shit like this. I literally disprove that

i'm not reading ur novel sorry

 

[TiktokUser]

i'm not reading ur novel sorry

you seein your fat retard friends “barely eat,” proves nothing besides the fact that they eat in a moderate manner, when surrounded by others

 

[134applesauce456]

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you seein your fat retard friends “barely eat,” proves nothing besides the fact that they eat in a moderate manner, when surrounded by others

fair enough i'm not gonna stalk them

they might be binging in private n shiet

but fat people are also a lot hungrier than normal people, eating the calories of an average person would feel like starving for them

 

[JackSmith07]

They claim that their condition is due to biological or medical reasons, such as a slower metabolism. Which is incredibly misleading, and for some reason, nobody ever calls them out on it.

Because it quite heavily is... lol.

 

[Greypiller]

@silently_said @Greypiller

Why tf are you tagging me

 

[TiktokUser]

Because it quite heavily is... lol.
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What? Are you fucking retarded? lmao

The study looks at how many calories different groups of people burn

Hadza vs. Westerners: The Hadza burn about the same amount of calories as people in Western countries, showing that even though their lifestyles are different, they use similar amounts of energy.

Bolivian Farmers: The farmers in Bolivia burn more calories than both the Hadza and Westerners. Which just shows that farming involves a lot of hard physical work, which burns more energy

The study literally just shows that your lifestyle and how active you are matter a lot when it comes to how many calories you burn, PROVING that I am correct.

 

[RecessedBoss]

Fat people are overly successful hunters.
You just jealous

 

[JackSmith07]

In conclusion. Fatties are not primary obese due to their genetics or other factors at play. What they really need to do is put down the

The study literally just shows that your lifestyle and how active you are matter a lot when it comes to how many calories you burn, PROVING that I am correct.

You're now moving the goal post because you're a moron. The hamza and Westerns in the study consume the same amount of calories per day and their physical activity levels are similar with many of them having the same level of activity as Westerners. But, their BMI levels are drastically different. The only variable left is the genetic one. Making the difference in BMI genetic and linked to metabolism and fat cell dysfunction. Completely debunking your 'conclusion.'

 

[roider122]

It could be.
My bmr was 1700 kcal 1 year ago
Its 4000 now

My thyroid/test levels/igf was subhuman level i fixed it and everything became normal

 

[IanIachimoe2491]

professional fatass hater

 

[noodlelover]

It's genetic.

Sufficient levels of hunger will control the brain eventually. You can't stay in a state of extreme hunger indefinitely, if you have the option of eating.

Avoiding processed food helps, and exercising daily helps, but they won't cause every one to be thin. This is why you see fat bellies even on some hunter gatherers that eat no processed foods and exercise all day everyday. Genetics.

 

[TiktokUser]

It's genetic.

Sufficient levels of hunger will control the brain eventually. You can't stay in a state of extreme hunger indefinitely, if you have the option of eating.

Avoiding processed food helps, and exercising daily helps, but they won't cause every one to be thin. This is why you see fat bellies even on some hunter gatherers that eat no processed foods and exercise all day everyday. Genetics.

read my fucking thread before you comment this dumb shit my god. Show me a single Jew in Germany during WWII that was obese

You're now moving the goal post because you're a moron. The hamza and Westerns in the study consume the same amount of calories per day and their physical activity levels are similar with many of them having the same level of activity as Westerners. But, their BMI levels are drastically different. The only variable left is the genetic one. Making the difference in BMI genetic and linked to metabolism and fat cell dysfunction. Completely debunking your 'conclusion.'

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Learn how to interpret a study before you continue to utter your blatant lies and misinformation. Can’t believe people are actually believing you and your illiteracy

The study shows that the Hadza and Westerners have similar Total Energy Expenditure (TEE) when adjusted for body size, it does not claim that their diets, activity levels, or metabolic efficiency are identical. Simply having similar TEE does not mean both groups engage in the same type of physical activity or consume the same kinds of foods. The Western diet is significantly higher in processed foods, refined sugars, and calorie dense meals, all of which contribute to fat accumulation over time. The Hadza, on the other hand, eat whole, unprocessed foods with much lower caloric density, which naturally regulates their energy balance.

Metabolism alone does not determine BMI. Genetics can play a role in body composition, but the idea that it is the only factor is retarded. Environmental and lifestyle differences, like food choices, portion sizes, and eating habits, have a massive impact on body weight.

The study does not provide ANY evidence that Westerners gain more fat purely due to genetic differences rather than differences in diet and lifestyle. You assuming that similar energy expenditure automatically means the only remaining variable is genetics shows you lack any knowledge in this subject, and are using a Cherry picked sources that makes you look like an absolute retard. You ignore the key differences in food consumption and metabolic responses to diet.

The study does not debunk the principle of calorie balance or suggest that obesity is purely genetic. All it shows is that energy expenditure can be similar across populations with different lifestyles, but that does not erase the impact of diet composition, food availability, and eating habits. The Western diet, promotes overconsumption of calories, remains a major factor in obesity trends.

Genetics do influence how people store fat, BUT they do not override the fundamental principle that long term calorie surplus leads to weight gain. NOBODY defys thermodynamics

 

[greycelzoomer]

It's genetic.

Sufficient levels of hunger will control the brain eventually. You can't stay in a state of extreme hunger indefinitely, if you have the option of eating.

Avoiding processed food helps, and exercising daily helps, but they won't cause every one to be thin. This is why you see fat bellies even on some hunter gatherers that eat no processed foods and exercise all day everyday. Genetics.

- has food as his avi

 

[LKSMAXPerson]

buddy im currently the bloat king

 

[MoggerGaston]

shit topic.

most young fat people are fat due to child abuse

 

[valentine]

i HATE fat bitches

 

[TiktokUser]

- has food as his avi
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Makes sense. The fatties are coping and seething so hard

 

[TiktokUser]

shit topic.

most young fat people are fat due to child abuse

Doesn’t disprove anything I said lmao

Majority of parents lack any understanding of nutrition and dieting, which is why their child grows up to be obese.

 

[noodlelover]

read my fucking thread before you comment this dumb shit my god. Show me a single Jew in Germany during WWII that was obese

I read your entire thread, but you couldn't read five sentences.

re-read my post before you reply.

 

[noodlelover]

- has food as his avi
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I don't eat noodles. It's a joke.

 

[HairVolume]

They always then try to point to conditions like hypothyroidism, PCOS, and other hormonal imbalances as the root cause of their weight gain. While yes, these conditions can make weight loss more challenging, they STILL do not violate the basic principles of thermodynamics. The effect of these conditions on metabolism is typically small (100-300 calories per day), and is not enough to justify significant weight gain. Most weight gain results from CONSISTENT overeating and lack of physical activity.

The weight loss industry solely exists due to simplified claims like "thermodynamics" or CICO or "just move more" while downplaying the significant effects of predispositions toward poor hormonal balance (incl. androgens, glucocorticoids, thyroid, insulin and so on).

Not every human is meant to be lean.

Not every human is meant to be chad.

you're on .org not reddit, stop acting like bluepilled normie you total retard

 

[TiktokUser]

I read your entire thread, but you couldn't read five sentences.

re-read my post before you reply.

Your thread means nothing. That does not mean weight gain is inevitable. People don’t gain weight simply because they feel hungry, they gain weight because they CONSUME more calories than they burn over time

It is not the ultra processed foods that are making them fat, it’s the OVEREATING of ultra processed foods that disrupt natural hunger signals. You can over consume salads and you’ll still GAIN mass

You continue to use Hunter Gatherers with bellies as an example, when that doesn’t disprove anything, rather than the fact that they OVER CONSUMED. Again, show me a fucking Jew during Germany WWII that was fat.

If genetics alone determined obesity, we would see similar obesity rates across all societies, regardless of diet and lifestyle, but WE DONT. The Western world has far higher obesity rates than traditional hunter gatherer societies, which proves that environment and behavior play a dominant role. Get schooled

 

[noodlelover]

Your thread means nothing. That does not mean weight gain is inevitable. People don’t gain weight simply because they feel hungry, they gain weight because they CONSUME more calories than they burn over time

Hunger leads to poor sleep quality. Poor sleep quality causes constriction in the blood vessels to the frontal cortex. This leads to reduced blood flow to the frontal cortex which results in less "will power". Over time this diminished blood flow to the frontal cortex results in reduced brain volume of the frontal cortex. (Lower and lower will power).

Hunger also directly results in blood vessel constriction to the frontal cortex. Which also, over time results in reduced frontal cortex brain volume, which means less will power.

Your body (running your genetic code) reduces blood flow to the area of the brain fighting it, literally starving that area of the brain until it is small and weak enough that it can no longer fight back against the amygdala.

It is not the ultra processed foods that are making them fat, it’s the OVEREATING of ultra processed foods that disrupt natural hunger signals. You can over consume salads and you’ll still GAIN mass

You continue to use Hunter Gatherers with bellies as an example, when that doesn’t disprove anything, rather than the fact that they OVER CONSUMED. Again, show me a fucking Jew during Germany WWII that was fat.

One cause of "overconsumption" for many people is genetics. This evolved in some people so that they have enough fat to survive famines.

You seem to believe in some kind of blank slate view of the brain, which is not accurate.

If genetics alone determined obesity,

I never claimed that. I wonder how much genetics play a role in your poor reading comprehension.

we would see similar obesity rates across all societies, regardless of diet and lifestyle, but WE DONT. The Western world has far higher obesity rates than traditional hunter-gatherer societies, which proves that environment and behavior play a dominant role. Get schooled

I never claimed they don't.

 

[TiktokUser]

The weight loss industry solely exists due to simplified claims like "thermodynamics" or CICO or "just move more" while downplaying the significant effects of predispositions toward poor hormonal balance (incl. androgens, glucocorticoids, thyroid, insulin and so on).

Not every human is meant to be lean.

Not every human is meant to be chad.

you're on .org not reddit, stop acting like bluepilled normie you total retard

Hormones like insulin, thyroid, and glucocorticoids can influence metabolism, appetite, and fat storage, for the 100th time, they DO NOT override the fundamental principle of thermodynamics. Sustained caloric surplus leads to weight gain, and a deficit leads to weight loss.

The weight loss industry thrives not because CICO is false, but because they THRIVE off the lack of education people have in dietary and nutrition. Imagine actually thinking BIG PHARMA is trustworthy when almost 1/3 of prescriptions are USELESS

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These people struggle with sustaining a calorie deficit and seek the easy solutions, like ozempic which greatly benefits BIG PHARMA instead of actually making consistent lifestyle changes.

Metabolic disorders can make weight loss harder, but they DO NOT cause fat gain without excess calories, even those with slow metabolisms can manage their weight with proper adjustments.

“muh not everyone is meant to be lean ”
“muh not every human is meant to be chad “

Obesity rates have skyrocketed in just a few decades due to environmental and behavioral factors, not genetics. No one is expected to be an elite athlete, or a Chad, dismissing energy balance and blaming genetics is just a way to say you’re COPING.

Put down the you faggot greycel, and maybe you’ll lose a pound for once in your life

 

[TiktokUser]

One cause of "overconsumption" for many people is genetics. This evolved in some people so that they have enough fat to survive famines.

Okay? modern overconsumption is still primary of our environment, not just genetics. Overconsumption is largely a behavioral issue driven by calorie dense processed foods and a culture of overeating. The basic principle of thermodynamics still applies. The real cause of obesity in modern society is rooted in dietary habits, food environment, and lifestyle choices, not evolutionary adaptations for survival during famines.

You seem to believe in some kind of blank slate view of the brain, which is not accurate.

what the fuck are you even talking about

I never claimed that. I wonder how much genetics play a role in your poor reading comprehension.

and if I claimed you did, I would have started with “you,” “your” like I did in the previous responses you fucking retard

Atleast I had you put down thefor once. Hopefully you’re now more knowledgeable on this subject; and don’t blame everything on
“muh genetics “

 

[Rigged]

People who are overweight or obese are often blatant hypocritical liars who lack any in depth knowledge in nutrition or dieting. They claim that their condition is due to biological or medical reasons, such as a slower metabolism. Which is incredibly misleading, and for some reason, nobody ever calls them out on it.

Obese individuals have a HIGHER resting metabolic rate, than those of somebody average weight. This is because their bodies require more energy to maintain a larger mass.

Energy metabolism in human obesity - PubMed

Obesity results from a chronic imbalance between energy intake and expenditure. Accurate measurements of total energy expenditure of lean and obese individuals with a respiration chamber have clearly shown that obese individuals expand more energy than lean sedentary subjects. Studies on the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is basic middle school biology yet they STILL blatantly lie, because they cannot grasp these simple concepts. It is this simple when it comes to weight loss, a balance between calorie intake and calorie expenditure, not just resting metabolism. Larger bodies burn more calories simply to maintain their mass, EVEN at rest.

People who are overweight may have more muscle mass than an average person, which in in return increases their metabolism. Larger organs and greater heart, lung, and liver activity also contribute to a higher calorie burn.

There is scientifical data to show that obese individuals underreported their calorie intake and overestimated their physical activies. A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1992 found that overweight individuals underreported their calorie intake by an average of 47% and overestimated their physical activity by about 51%.

Discrepancy between self-reported and actual caloric intake and exercise in obese subjects - PubMed

The failure of some obese subjects to lose weight while eating a diet they report as low in calories is due to an energy intake substantially higher than reported and an overestimation of physical activity, not to an abnormality in thermogenesis.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

They always then try to point to conditions like hypothyroidism, PCOS, and other hormonal imbalances as the root cause of their weight gain. While yes, these conditions can make weight loss more challenging, they STILL do not violate the basic principles of thermodynamics. The effect of these conditions on metabolism is typically small (100-300 calories per day), and is not enough to justify significant weight gain. Most weight gain results from CONSISTENT overeating and lack of physical activity.
You really think a German Jew in WWII would be fat slob? They can never admit fault though, because they’re LIARS.

“muh but processed food cheaper than healthy “

Fast food is only cheaper at first glance due to its low upfront cost and convenience, it’s often not the most cost effective option when actually analyzed in depth, but these fatties can’t even do that

The notion of “affordability” is actually from the immediate satisfaction it provides, with having no preparation or cooking time required.

Example

A fast food meal from McDonald’s may cost around $12–$15, which feels like a reasonable price for a meal. However, this cost is for a single meal that may only provide 500–600 calories, and this price is inflated due to the convenience of not having to cook.

When you cook at home, you can purchase ingredients that offer far more meals at a lower cost per calorie.

A bag of rice, can cost around $10 and provide enough servings for several meals, producing roughly $3–$5 per meal when paired with other ingredients like vegetables and protein sources such as ground beef or chicken.
A dozen eggs, $4–$5, can provide several meals. If we compare the actual cost per calorie, cooking at home becomes much more affordable.
Rice, ground beef, and vegetables can cost around $3–$5 for a similar 500–600 calorie meal, making it significantly cheaper than a fast food option that would cost 2–3 times that amount.

Buying these ingredients in bulk allows for cost savings over time, as these ingredients can be used in multiple meals.

In conclusion. Fatties are not primary obese due to their genetics or other factors at play. What they really need to do is put down the

Watch out bro the fat niggas gonna come for you

 

[noodlelover]

Okay? modern overconsumption is still primary of our environment, not just genetics. Overconsumption is largely a behavioral issue driven by calorie dense processed foods and a culture of overeating.

I don't disagree with this.

What I'm saying is not every one can have a flat stomach, long term. Some people are genetically hardwired to consume more food when they have access to it.

We can see this in artistic depictions of humans going back thousands of years. It also makes sense biologically and evolutionarily as famines were common, and those who had will power to resist "over-eating" died out, not passing on their genes in many circumstances.

The mechanism of action, is hormone induced blood flow constriction to specific areas of the brain resulting in reducing brain size of those areas over time, as I detailed in a previous post.

Okay? modern overconsumption is still primary of our environment, not just genetics. Overconsumption is largely a behavioral issue driven by calorie dense processed foods and a culture of overeating. The basic principle of thermodynamics still applies. The real cause of obesity in modern society is rooted in dietary habits, food environment, and lifestyle choices, not evolutionary adaptations for survival during famines.

what the fuck are you even talking about

and if I claimed you did, I would have started with “you,” “your” like I did in the previous responses you fucking retard

Atleast I had you put down thefor once. Hopefully you’re now more knowledgeable on this subject; and don’t blame everything on
“muh genetics “

You haven't mentioned anything I don't already know. I agree with you that modern foods lead to increased consumption, as well as lack of exercise, which is why I mentioned both things in my first response.

 

[JackSmith07]

read my fucking thread before you comment this dumb shit my god. Show me a single Jew in Germany during WWII that was obese

Learn how to interpret a study before you continue to utter your blatant lies and misinformation. Can’t believe people are actually believing you and your illiteracy

The study shows that the Hadza and Westerners have similar Total Energy Expenditure (TEE) when adjusted for body size, it does not claim that their diets, activity levels, or metabolic efficiency are identical. Simply having similar TEE does not mean both groups engage in the same type of physical activity or consume the same kinds of foods. The Western diet is significantly higher in processed foods, refined sugars, and calorie dense meals, all of which contribute to fat accumulation over time. The Hadza, on the other hand, eat whole, unprocessed foods with much lower caloric density, which naturally regulates their energy balance.

Metabolism alone does not determine BMI. Genetics can play a role in body composition, but the idea that it is the only factor is retarded. Environmental and lifestyle differences, like food choices, portion sizes, and eating habits, have a massive impact on body weight.

The study does not provide ANY evidence that Westerners gain more fat purely due to genetic differences rather than differences in diet and lifestyle. You assuming that similar energy expenditure automatically means the only remaining variable is genetics shows you lack any knowledge in this subject, and are using a Cherry picked sources that makes you look like an absolute retard. You ignore the key differences in food consumption and metabolic responses to diet.

The study does not debunk the principle of calorie balance or suggest that obesity is purely genetic. All it shows is that energy expenditure can be similar across populations with different lifestyles, but that does not erase the impact of diet composition, food availability, and eating habits. The Western diet, promotes overconsumption of calories, remains a major factor in obesity trends.

Genetics do influence how people store fat, BUT they do not override the fundamental principle that long term calorie surplus leads to weight gain. NOBODY defys thermodynamics

Germany started rationing food shortly after WWII started all the way until the end of the war. Not all rationing would have been equal and their enemies (Jews) would have been in a larger calorie deficit. A long term calorie deficit is more deleterious to a person's health than obesity. If you weren't so stupid, you'd already know this.

'We hypothesize that TEE may
be a relatively stable, constrained physiological trait for the human
species, more a product of our common genctic inheritance than
our diversc lifestyles. A growing body of work on mammalian metabolism is revealing that spccies' metabolic rates reflect their
cvolutionary history, as TEE responds over cvolutionary time to
ecological pressures such as food availability and predation risk. In this light, it is interesting to consider human TEE as an evolved trait shaped by natural selcction. Humans are known to
have greater TEE than orangutans [50], a closcly relatod ape, but
have low TEE compared to other eutherian mammals.
Data from other primatc specics are needed to fit the human
metabolic strategy into a comprehensive evolutionary context.'

Your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

 

[TiktokUser]

Germany started rationing food shortly after WWII started all the way until the end of the war. Not all rationing would have been equal and their enemies (Jews) would have been in a larger calorie deficit.

Nothing you said debunks a single thing I fucking said. Holy fuck, you’re so retarded you dumb nigga. I have debunked every single one of your stupid illogical claims, you don’t even know how to read a fucking study for god sake

WWII rationing argument doesn’t debunk ANYTHING, it actually proves the original point. If genetics or metabolism were the ultimate dictators of body weight, then we would’ve seen some people magically stay fat while starving. But guess what? That didn’t happen. People in severe calorie deficits, like Jewish prisoners, wasted away, proving that calories in versus calories out is king. Bringing up food shortages as some kind of counterpoint is like trying to argue against gravity while falling off a cliff. No one maintains excess fat without a caloric surplus, no matter how much you want to blame it on genetics.

A long term calorie deficit is more deleterious to a person's health than obesity.

This is just a classic case of false equivalence. Nobody arguing for calorie balance is saying people should starve themselves. A controlled calorie deficit for weight loss is not the same as extreme malnutrition or wasting away. You have to use logical fallacies to get your abhorrent point across.

'We hypothesize that TEE may
be a relatively stable, constrained physiological trait for the human
species, more a product of our common genctic inheritance than
our diversc lifestyles. A growing body of work on mammalian
metabolism is revealing that spccies' metabolic rates reflect their
cvolutionary history, as TEE responds over cvolutionary time to
ecological pressures such as food availability and predation risk. In this light, it is interesting to consider human TEE as an evolved trait shaped by natural selcction. Humans are known to
have greater TEE than orangutans [50], a closcly relatod ape, but
have low TEE compared to other eutherian mammals.
Data from other primatc specics are needed to fit the human
metabolic strategy into a comprehensive evolutionary context.'

??????????????????????

You’re talking about TEE as a genetic trait shaped by evolution, which is a theory, but doesn’t change the fact that calories in versus calories out is still what determines whether someone gains or loses weight. The basic rules of thermodynamics aren’t just going to magically bend using your retarded logic. If you eat more than you burn, you gain weight, no amount of evolutionary context changes that.

Comparing humans to orangutans and other species doesn’t change the equation either. Humans may burn more energy than an orangutan, but that’s not what’s happening when someone overeats. If you’re in a caloric surplus, you’re still storing fat. Im talking about energy balance, not who burns more energy than who in the wild.

Your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

You’ve made countless statements that show your lack of critical thinking and knowledge on the subject, as almost everything you’ve said actually proves me right. Let’s just forget about you bringing up the Hadza and Bolivian study, which didn’t debunk a single thing I said, and further proves me correct. Instead of conceding and admitting fault, you came back hours later for a “gotcha” moment, only to make yourself look more like an absolute retard. You clearly know nothing about studies, nutrition, or dietary matters, you’re an illiterate who should shut the fuck up

Either put down the or do what the fucking title of this thread says to. You’re an incompetent retard who can’t grasp a study.

 

[Aladin]

but ngl I see some fat people who genuinely barely eat, like they eat less then me

so I am inclined to believe genetics may have a role sometimes

Do you monitor them 24/7?

 

[Mewton]

Fat fucks are mostly tallfags
I wish I was fatfuck

 

[JackSmith07]

WWII rationing argument doesn’t debunk ANYTHING, it actually proves the original point.

I never said anything extreme calorie deficit. The average German civilian (and Jewish non civilian) was on 1500 to 1800 calories. Towards the end of the war, the Jewish captives were the only one's living on an extreme calorie deficit strictly imposed on them.

I never said anything about an extreme calorie deficit with regards to the rationing imposed on everyone in NS Germany. Living on an long term calorie deficit, even if mild, is equal if not more damaging to the body than obesity over the long term, you stupid twit.

No one maintains excess fat without a caloric surplus, no matter how much you want to blame it on genetics.

As shown with the study, populations with the same daily calorie expenditure are much leaner. The processed versus unprocessed argument is invaldiated when assessing the socio-economic status level of both classes. On average, poor people are uglier, shorter and have worse genetic health. Impulsiveness and a desire for short term gratification are primarily genetic expressions of their life history strategy.

You’re talking about TEE as a genetic trait shaped by evolution, which is a theory, but doesn’t change the fact that calories in versus calories out is still what determines whether someone gains or loses weight.

As I've highlighted, obese people have personality traits that make them impulsively eat. Determining heavily whether they lose the weight or not.

This is just a classic case of false equivalence. Nobody arguing for calorie balance is saying people should starve themselves. A controlled calorie deficit for weight loss is not the same as extreme malnutrition or wasting away. You have to use logical fallacies to get your abhorrent point across.

Obese people have a high genetic inheritance for deleterious mutations all across their genome. For them to maintain a low calorie diet from their daily required caloric needs, it will damage their health over the long haul. Their bodies can't regulate fat cells correctly. Even on a normal calorie diet, they'll gain weight. Like I said, the condition is genetic.

 

[HairVolume]

Hormones like insulin, thyroid, and glucocorticoids can influence metabolism, appetite, and fat storage, for the 100th time, they DO NOT override the fundamental principle of thermodynamics. Sustained caloric surplus leads to weight gain, and a deficit leads to weight loss.

The weight loss industry thrives not because CICO is false, but because they THRIVE off the lack of education people have in dietary and nutrition. Imagine actually thinking BIG PHARMA is trustworthy when almost 1/3 of prescriptions are USELESS

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These people struggle with sustaining a calorie deficit and seek the easy solutions, like ozempic which greatly benefits BIG PHARMA instead of actually making consistent lifestyle changes.

Metabolic disorders can make weight loss harder, but they DO NOT cause fat gain without excess calories, even those with slow metabolisms can manage their weight with proper adjustments.

“muh not everyone is meant to be lean ”
“muh not every human is meant to be chad “

Obesity rates have skyrocketed in just a few decades due to environmental and behavioral factors, not genetics. No one is expected to be an elite athlete, or a Chad, dismissing energy balance and blaming genetics is just a way to say you’re COPING.

Put down the you faggot greycel, and maybe you’ll lose a pound for once in your life

Talking about calorie deficits and calorie surplus's in the BIG 2025 , JUST Lmfao at your awareness. Youre worse than a normie!
What's the point of being here if youre looksmaxing understanding is limited to something you can find in a million Youtube videos?
GTFOH lil bro you don't belong here, come back here 5 years later maybe LOL

and if any greycel is reading this then stop following this faggot who's stuck in 2020 and look towards optimising your hormones/health first before any caloric changes

looks and dimorphism is an expression of health (which in turn is an expression of genetics) so get ur bloodwork done

 

[TiktokUser]

I never said anything extreme calorie deficit. The average German civilian (and Jewish non civilian) was on 1500 to 1800 calories. Towards the end of the war, the Jewish captives were the only one's living on an extreme calorie deficit strictly imposed on them.

I never said anything about an extreme calorie deficit with regards to the rationing imposed on everyone in NS Germany. Living on an long term calorie deficit, even if mild, is equal if not more damaging to the body than obesity over the long term, you stupid twit.


As shown with the study, populations with the same daily calorie expenditure are much leaner. The processed versus unprocessed argument is invaldiated when assessing the socio-economic status level of both classes. On average, poor people are uglier, shorter and have worse genetic health. Impulsiveness and a desire for short term gratification are primarily genetic expressions of their life history strategy.


As I've highlighted, obese people have personality traits that make them impulsively eat. Determining heavily whether they lose the weight or not.


Obese people have a high genetic inheritance for deleterious mutations all across their genome. For them to maintain a low calorie diet from their daily required caloric needs, it will damage their health over the long haul. Their bodies can't regulate fat cells correctly. Even on a normal calorie diet, they'll gain weight. Like I said, the condition is genetic.

Your argument is riddled with blatant contradictions, historical inaccuracies, cherry picked studies, and outright fabrication of the study. You are a retarded baboon monkey who is illiterate. Genuinely kys

The average German civilian (and Jewish non-civilian) was on 1500-1800 calories per day.

This is a flat out fucking lie. German civilians had access to 1,500–2,000 calories per day, with black markets, home grown food, and rationing systems that prioritized them. Jewish civilians under Nazi rule were NOT on 1,500-1,800 calories. Many were confined to ghettos where rations dropped below 500 calories per day.

Nutrition / Life in the camp / History / Auschwitz-Birkenau

In Warsaw Ghetto, Jewish civilians got 1,100 calories or often less. In the concentration camps, they plummeted to 400-700 calories per day, leading to rapid starvation. This is an indisputable historical fact that you really thought you could get away with lying about

Warsaw Ghetto Hunger Study - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You intentionally downplay Jewish starvation to create a false equivalency between rationing for German civilians and forced starvation in ghettos and camps. You’re fucking disgusting, retard baboon.

A Long-Term Caloric Deficit Is Worse Than Obesity

Living on a long-term calorie deficit, even if mild, is equal if not more damaging to the body than obesity.

Controlled calorie deficits, 200-500 a day are MOT remotely comparable to obesity. Obesity increases the risk of diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and metabolic disorders. Caloric restriction, when done properly has been linked to better metabolic health.

Calorie restriction, immune function, and health span

A study of moderate calorie restriction in people led to the identification of a gene that is involved in improved immune and metabolic functions.

www.nih.gov

You CONTINUE to use a false equivalence fallacy that conflates controlled weight loss with extreme malnutrition, AND a strawman fallacy.

Obese people have a high genetic inheritance for deleterious mutations all across their genome. Their bodies can’t regulate fat cells correctly. Even on a normal calorie diet, they’ll gain weight.

Not only is this not even your own fucking words, it is completely FALSE

I have said this MANY times. Genetics can influence metabolism and fat storage, but they DO NOT override the fundamental rule of thermodynamics.

Nobody gains fat in a sustained calorie deficit. If their metabolism is slow, they simply need to adjust intake accordingly. There is NO genetic condition where people magically gain weight without consuming more energy than they burn. If obesity was purely genetic, you’d find obese famine survivors like WWII Jews but you don’t.

Energy balance and food intake: the role of PPARgamma gene polymorphisms - PubMed

Mechanisms regulating energy balance involve complex interactions between genetic, environmental and behavioural (learnt and intrinsic) factors. Genotype may drive the partitioning of energy metabolism and predispose to site-specific adiposity, culminating in a state of energy imbalance. One...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The study shows that populations with the same daily calorie expenditure are much leaner, proving genetics control BMI.

The study found that when adjusted for body size, Hadza and Westerners burn similar calories. This is the THIRD time I am explaining it to you. This does NOT mean they have identical diets, food quality, or metabolic responses. Westerners CONSUME ultra processed, calorie dense foods that LEAD to chronic overconsumption. THE Hadzas eat natural, high fiber foods with low caloric density, making it MUCH HARDER to overeat.

The fact that the Hadza don’t get fat despite similar energy expenditure PROVES diet composition matters, not that obesity is purely genetic.

Obese people have personality traits that make them impulsively eat, determining whether they lose weight or not.

Just say you’re a fat fuck who can’t control their eating habits. Fatties struggle more with impulse control, but millions of people with “fat genetics ” lose weight through discipline and structured eating. Impulsivity does not force feed someone excess calories, personal choices do. Plenty of people with “thin genetics ” get fat when they overconsume, proving energy balance still applies.

“muh I’m genetically impulsive ” is not an excuse to ignore calorie intake retard

You have lied, twisted data, and have used multiple logical fallacies at your terrible attempts at being correct. You should admitted fault the first time I fucking debunked you. You have LIED about WWII calorie intake, LIED about studies, LIED about calorie deficits, and have LIED about thermodynamics. You’re coping and seething right now, grasping at straws to deny the obvious truths

Now what did little Jack learn today? Let’s summarize

• NOBODY stores excess fat without consuming excess calories.
• The Hadza study DOESN’T prove obesity is purely genetic.
• Controlled calorie deficits AREN’T dangerous, obesity is.
• Historical data PROVES calorie deficits cause weight loss, even in extreme cases.

Every fucking argument you made contradicts itself or is based on false information. YOU are the one that doesn’t have a leg to stand on. YOU are scientifically illiterate, and incapable of critical thought.

@Lord Shadow be ashamed for falling for his illiteracy. Both of you should put down the fucking

 

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[TiktokUser]

. The average German civilian (and Jewish non civilian) was on 1500 to 1800 calories.

Talking about calorie deficits and calorie surplus's in the BIG 2025 , JUST Lmfao at your awareness. Youre worse than a normie!
What's the point of being here if youre looksmaxing understanding is limited to something you can find in a million Youtube videos?
GTFOH lil bro you don't belong here, come back here 5 years later maybe LOL

and if any greycel is reading this then stop following this faggot who's stuck in 2020 and look towards optimising your hormones/health first before any caloric changes

>Retard fat baboon calls me a “normie” for using basic science
>Tells me to “optimize hormones” instead of worrying about calories
>Has the audacity to call me a greycel
>Is stuck in the past, parroting random advice
>Doesn’t understand basic biology
>Cant debunk a single thing I said

Put down the fatty . Coping and seething won’t make you lose weight you fag

 

[JackSmith07]

This is a flat out fucking lie. German civilians had access to 1,500–2,000 calories per day, with black markets, home grown food, and rationing systems that prioritized them. Jewish civilians under Nazi rule were NOT on 1,500-1,800 calories. Many were confined to ghettos where rations dropped below 500 calories per day.

The Jews were confined to ghettos because they are possibly the most racist people on the planet who subvert the culture and try to kill non Jews passively using propaganda and trickery. Their hate is unmatched.

These are isolated cases of extreme caloric restrictions imposed on Jews and non Jewish prisoners. The nazis fed them equally as the Germans up until the end of the war in most cases, barring the extremes, but when supplies were low, they started to prioritise officials and the military personnel. This is only logical.

You CONTINUE to use a false equivalence fallacy that conflates controlled weight loss with extreme malnutrition, AND a strawman fallacy.

I specifically stated that even a mild caloric deficit over many years can have a deleterious effect on people with the obese phenotype. Even a regular caloric intake can make obese phenotype individuals gain weight due to genetic alterations to how their body stores and processes fat. There are other factors that I won't go into detail about.

Nobody gains fat in a sustained calorie deficit. If their metabolism is slow, they simply need to adjust intake accordingly. There is NO genetic condition where people magically gain weight without consuming more energy than they burn. If obesity was purely genetic, you’d find obese famine survivors like WWII Jews but you don’t.

I said obesity was heavily genetic. People who have the obese phenotype are people who have a genetic impulsiveness for addictive behaviour. Their crutch is food.

The fact that the Hadza don’t get fat despite similar energy expenditure PROVES diet composition matters, not that obesity is purely genetic.

No, it doesn't. There are many cultures where the people live nomadically and eat a high carbohydrate diets with lots of grain and they remain slim their entire lives. Food is food. No matter if it's processed or not. The only difference is in inflammation, e.g bloating and redness of the skin. As long as a person's daily calories is being met, they won't get fat if they don't have the obesity phenotype.

Just say you’re a fat fuck who can’t control their eating habits. Fatties struggle more with impulse control, but millions of people with “fat genetics ” lose weight through discipline and structured eating. Impulsivity does not force feed someone excess calories, personal choices do. Plenty of people with “thin genetics ” get fat when they overconsume, proving energy balance still applies.

Keep on assuming things, bud.

muh I’m genetically impulsive ” is not an excuse to ignore calorie intake.

Yes it is. Especially when paired with a low IQ. They're basically helpless. Hence the data showing that only 1 in 205 men keeping a stable weight after being obesity. The rest are unable to main a slim physique because their bodies natural composition is to be fat.

Every fucking argument you made contradicts itself or is based on false information. YOU are the one that doesn’t have a leg to stand on. You are scientifically illiterate, and incapable of critical thought.

@

@Lord Shadow be ashamed for falling for his illiteracy. Both of you should put down the fucking

Keep spewing bullshit. I have a question. Are you Jewish by any chance?

Nobody stores excess fat without consuming excess calories.
The Hadza study doesn’t prove obesity is purely genetic.

It DOES. Hence, natural selection or the lack of it driving the BMI of a population.

 

[Lord Shadow]

@Lord Shadow be ashamed for falling for his illiteracy. Both of you should put down the fucking

U right mb, imma start water fasting today. I have 9 electrolyte packs left

Either I'm cha eunwoo lean by july or death tbh

 

[IHeartVanillaCoke]

People who are overweight or obese are often blatant hypocritical liars who lack any in depth knowledge in nutrition or dieting. They claim that their condition is due to biological or medical reasons, such as a slower metabolism. Which is incredibly misleading, and for some reason, nobody ever calls them out on it.

Obese individuals have a HIGHER resting metabolic rate, than those of somebody average weight. This is because their bodies require more energy to maintain a larger mass.

Energy metabolism in human obesity - PubMed

Obesity results from a chronic imbalance between energy intake and expenditure. Accurate measurements of total energy expenditure of lean and obese individuals with a respiration chamber have clearly shown that obese individuals expand more energy than lean sedentary subjects. Studies on the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is basic middle school biology yet they STILL blatantly lie, because they cannot grasp these simple concepts. It is this simple when it comes to weight loss, a balance between calorie intake and calorie expenditure, not just resting metabolism. Larger bodies burn more calories simply to maintain their mass, EVEN at rest.

People who are overweight may have more muscle mass than an average person, which in in return increases their metabolism. Larger organs and greater heart, lung, and liver activity also contribute to a higher calorie burn.

There is scientifical data to show that obese individuals underreported their calorie intake and overestimated their physical activies. A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1992 found that overweight individuals underreported their calorie intake by an average of 47% and overestimated their physical activity by about 51%.

Discrepancy between self-reported and actual caloric intake and exercise in obese subjects - PubMed

The failure of some obese subjects to lose weight while eating a diet they report as low in calories is due to an energy intake substantially higher than reported and an overestimation of physical activity, not to an abnormality in thermogenesis.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

They always then try to point to conditions like hypothyroidism, PCOS, and other hormonal imbalances as the root cause of their weight gain. While yes, these conditions can make weight loss more challenging, they STILL do not violate the basic principles of thermodynamics. The effect of these conditions on metabolism is typically small (100-300 calories per day), and is not enough to justify significant weight gain. Most weight gain results from CONSISTENT overeating and lack of physical activity.
You really think a German Jew in WWII would be fat slob? They can never admit fault though, because they’re LIARS.

“muh but processed food cheaper than healthy “

Fast food is only cheaper at first glance due to its low upfront cost and convenience, it’s often not the most cost effective option when actually analyzed in depth, but these fatties can’t even do that

The notion of “affordability” is actually from the immediate satisfaction it provides, with having no preparation or cooking time required.

Example

A fast food meal from McDonald’s may cost around $12–$15, which feels like a reasonable price for a meal. However, this cost is for a single meal that may only provide 500–600 calories, and this price is inflated due to the convenience of not having to cook.

When you cook at home, you can purchase ingredients that offer far more meals at a lower cost per calorie.

A bag of rice, can cost around $10 and provide enough servings for several meals, producing roughly $3–$5 per meal when paired with other ingredients like vegetables and protein sources such as ground beef or chicken.
A dozen eggs, $4–$5, can provide several meals. If we compare the actual cost per calorie, cooking at home becomes much more affordable.
Rice, ground beef, and vegetables can cost around $3–$5 for a similar 500–600 calorie meal, making it significantly cheaper than a fast food option that would cost 2–3 times that amount.

Buying these ingredients in bulk allows for cost savings over time, as these ingredients can be used in multiple meals.

In conclusion. Fatties are not primary obese due to their genetics or other factors at play. What they really need to do is put down the

I hate fat people

 

[TiktokUser]

The Jews were confined to ghettos because they are possibly the most racist people on the planet who subvert the culture and try to kill non Jews passively using propaganda and trickery. Their hate is unmatched.

These are isolated cases of extreme caloric restrictions imposed on Jews and non Jewish prisoners. The nazis fed them equally as the Germans up until the end of the war in most cases, barring the extremes, but when supplies were low, they started to prioritise officials and the military personnel. This is only logical.


I specifically stated that even a mild caloric deficit over many years can have a deleterious effect on people with the obese phenotype. Even a regular caloric intake can make obese phenotype individuals gain weight due to genetic alterations to how their body stores and processes fat. There are other factors that I won't go into detail about.


I said obesity was heavily genetic. People who have the obese phenotype are people who have a genetic impulsiveness for addictive behaviour. Their crutch is food.


No, it doesn't. There are many cultures where the people live nomadically and eat a high carbohydrate diets with lots of grain and they remain slim their entire lives. Food is food. No matter if it's processed or not. The only difference is in inflammation, e.g bloating and redness of the skin. As long as a person's daily calories is being met, they won't get fat if they don't have the obesity phenotype.


Keep on assuming things, bud.


Yes it is. Especially when paired with a low IQ. They're basically helpless. Hence the data showing that only 1 in 205 men keeping a stable weight after being obesity. The rest are unable to main a slim physique because their bodies natural composition is to be fat.

Keep spewing bullshit. I have a question. Are you Jewish by any chance?




It DOES. Hence, natural selection or the lack of it driving the BMI of a population.

You’ve already been fact checked multiple times and given multiple studies debunking literally all you illogical claims, yet you continue spewing factually incorrect garbage like a retard. You’re completely illiterate. Post a single study proving you correct instead of spewing conspiracy pseudoscience backed with no scientifical data. You’re a fatty that is stupid to comprehend basic science

You lied about the Holocaust, lied about obesity and genetics, and lied about thermodynamics. Every claim you’ve made has been demolished with actual evidence, yet here you are, doubling down like a retard. Maybe if you spent less time coping and more time reading, you wouldn’t embarrass yourself this badly.

You claim Jews had a moderate diet when this is what they looked like

Admit you’re wrong and put down the fatty. You’re coping and seething

 

[JackSmith07]

You’ve already been fact checked multiple times and given multiple studies debunking literally all you illogical claims, yet you continue spewing factually incorrect garbage like a retard. You’re completely illiterate. Post a single study proving you correct instead of spewing conspiracy pseudoscience backed with no scientifical data. You’re a fatty that is stupid to comprehend basic science

You lied about the Holocaust, lied about obesity and genetics, and lied about thermodynamics. Every claim you’ve made has been demolished with actual evidence, yet here you are, doubling down like a retard. Maybe if you spent less time coping and more time reading, you wouldn’t embarrass yourself this badly.

Admit you’re wrong and put down the fatty. You’re coping and seething

You're so emotional, like that of a woman. I have debunked everything you've said. I have no doubt that you're a Jew of some kind. There's no talk here.

End of discussion.

 

[TiktokUser]

You're so emotional, like that of a woman. I have debunked everything you've said. I have no doubt that you're a Jew of some kind. There's no talk here.

End of discussion.

You’re blatantly lying, and then other retards like you are actually believing the bullshit you spew.

“muh jews fed well Holocaust wasn’t real”

How are you going to deny all the historical evidence

Put down the buttercup

 

[noodlelover]

You’re blatantly lying, and then other retards like you are actually believing the bullshit you spew.

“muh jews fed well Holocaust wasn’t real”
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How are you going to deny all the historical evidence

Put down the buttercup

What is your personal experience related to weight loss or "fat people" as you like to call them, that makes you so extremely emotional?

 

[TiktokUser]

What is your personal experience related to weight loss or "fat people" as you like to call them, that makes you so extremely emotional?

• They’re fatties
• They’re ugly
• They smell