🥊FIGHTMAXXING: The general guidelines to hand to hand combat

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If you don't want to end up being of the many drunk idiots that gets slept, manhandled, or slammed in the off-topic section, I highly suggest you read this thread. I'm an amateur MMA fighter with several fights, BJJ practitioner, and former scholastic wrestler. I haven't been in too many street fights per se, mostly because I'm tall asf and don't really get confronted, but when I have, I've dominated quite easily. Let's break down how to be a good fighter step by step.

As a note, knowing how to fight is extremely important in improving how you carry yourself. I'm comfortable with flirting with whoever I want and behaving how I want to because I know I can easily handle myself in any confrontation. The feeling of confidence in confrontation is something that helps with your presence a LOT.

Let's jump into the guide.

SETTING

Your approach to any physical confrontation must be to first understand where you are and who is around you. This sounds corny, but even the most dominant and experienced fighter could get his shit handled if he's in the wrong place. I will be structuring the guide to include some basic striking components, as well as some basic grappling components.

Striking should be primarily used in more open areas where there is an ability to establish range. Additionally, striking makes much more sense when fighting on hard surfaces such as concrete. I'm a talented grappler myself, but I wouldn't even initiate a grappling sequence with the ineptest opponent when on concrete, since implementing a takedown may hurt myself.

Grappling should be primarily used in situations where there is not much risk of others jumping into the fight, there are no drastic changes in elevation around you, the surface of which you are fighting on isn't hard or rough. In colder settings where people wear coats or any sort of clothing that has more "grips", I suggest using this.
Okay, let's now move onto discussing some basic striking.

STRIKING

Striking is actually what comes less naturally to us as humans. We have a proclivity towards wrestling, exhibited through how kids do so even in regions with no wrestling culture, but striking is a sport that goes against every sliver of human reflex. Luckily, because of this fact, you can achieve a lot more with having a bit of striking knowledge. Moreover, striking exchanges between two relatively untrained or untrained people is the situation in which weight/strength advantages have the least influence.

Throwing straight punches is the most unassumingly simple way to win a small striking exchange. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you the rotational mechanics of throwing a hook, cross, etc, since that is redundant and impossible to do without being physically present. But, if you notice in any of these fight videos, the individuals who throw a semi-straight punch is who lands and ultimately wins. Don't throw wild haymakers, you will terribly miss, lose balance, you won't be throwing hard regardless, and you will lose. Throw straight punches at the person's face. Forget about hitting them hard, focus on hitting them. Power means practically nothing in these low skill fights. If you notice, whoever lands a flush punch first primarily wins, no matter how pitty-patter it seems.

Let's reiterate to earlier. Haymakers are the most common punches thrown in a street fighting. Wild, uncoordinated swings. There are two counters to this attack.

1. Short Distance: If your opponent is extremely close to you and throwing wild, uncoordinated swings, you can respond with a horizontal elbow. Elbow strikes are a favorite of mine since untrained fighters aren't used to them or maybe don't even know they exist. It is also incredibly easier to throw more power with an elbow, they are much more resilient and sharper than your knuckles. Simply aim your elbow and swing up at the opponent's face. This technique honestly keeps your base balanced, (you aren't swinging your whole body across), and will cause a lot of damage.

2. Move out the fucking way: This goes without saying, if they are really out of range, just step back jfl. This way, your opponent will meaninglessly expend energy throwing useless punches, lose their fucking balance, and even if you have the worst hands, you can simply counter them while they are flailing about.

Kicking is something inexperienced practitioners should avoid. Your balance and base are the two most important things as a beginner, and you will give this up in a kick. Ofc, if I'm fighting, I'd chew up someone's calf or thigh with kicks, but this would be such a bad idea for someone who doesn't know how to. You may slip and fall on your ass, have your kick caught, or worst yet, your dumbass will drop your hands and get rocked trying to do your best Alex Pereira impression.

GRAPPLING

This is the fun part for me tbh. Grappling is a great way to get your opponent to the ground and beat their face bloody. As inexperienced practitioners, position is what matters. I've submitted high level grapplers for money before, but I would absolutely never attempt a submission in a street fight. Once again, DO NOT GRAPPLE IN SITUATIONS WHERE OTHERS MAY BE INVOLVED OR THE SURFACE IS ROUGH, ELEVATION CHANGES, ETC.

Drawing back to the positional aspect, ALWAYS BE ON TOP. Anything you do must be with the intent of maintaining top control which is the single greatest advantage in a street fight. Being on top allows for the possibilities for ground and pound, aka elbowing and punching tf out of the opponent.

Okay, so we understood to only stay on the top and not attempt or try anything that involves leg entanglements, getting to bottom etc. But how do we achieve top position in the first place.

Let's discuss takedowns. Takedowns are the reason why Caucasian inbreds are the best fighters in the world and the reason you'll save face at your next bar fight. First thing we need to understand is the art of getting grips. Grips will play into the next segment of the guide as well, but in the context of takedowns, grips are the single most important thing. There will be some grips you will be able to get no matter what, such as grabbing your opponent's neck, wrist, tricep area, or lat. Think of these areas as the holding points of how you push and pull, sort of like body levers. Pushing and pulling aimlessly actually works on the street pretty well since most people are uncoordinated asf.

Some grips may come as a result of clothing. If your opponent has a collar, GRAB IT. Now that we have discussed the grips we could potentially get, let's discuss how we fit them into doing actual takedowns.

1. The double leg: This is my favorite. There are several ways to do it and achieve it, but get leverage over some part of your opponent's lower body BELOW THEIR HIPS, and DRIVE FORWARD. Bonus points, drive them forward but to the left or right. This is a poor man's double leg and is a simple way to get them down. If you are a bigger or strong guy, you could pick the opponent up and slam them, instead of driving them down. Just make sure you aren't throwing yourself down with them.
2. The shitty street fight toss/sweep: Grab onto their collar or head, pull them in a direction while also tripping them or putting some sort of mechanical diversion onto their legs in order to cause them to lose balance. Do this with confidence and intention, and they will stumble. Seize the opportunity to either throw punches or keep trying to drive them to the ground while they are unbalanced.

Okay, I got to the ground. What tf now? Simple. Hit them. Stomp, elbow, punch, slap, do whatever you feel necessary to rain down strikes. Have at it, the fight is won at this point.

OH NO, I'M IN A TRICKY SPOT!!!!

There are a variety of sticky spots you can be in. Let's discuss a few possibilities that are most common.

1. You are being choked: If you are placed in a chokehold, first determine whether you are the side or directly in front of the person. If directly in front of the place, walk your feet back as far as you can while breaking the grip with your hands. By any means, do not get closer to them, as the choke will get tighter. If you are to the side of the person, they are mechanically disadvantaged and do not know how to fight. Continue moving, either backwards to get to their back from which you can slam them or push them away, or get closer and grab onto their legs, creating a solid grip before picking them and slamming them down. You are in no danger.
2. You are on the ground, on bottom: Immediately grab onto your opponent's wrists so they have no means of throwing any strikes. Wrist control is paramount. From there, try getting up, (see technical standup in BJJ), grabbing onto their legs to try and take them down, (see wrestling up), or just negating any damage until you are broken up by spectators.
3. Multiple people join in: Fucking book it. Just run, you aren't Jon Jones or some crazy prizefighter. If you're already on the ground, pray to Gandy that they'll punch you hard enough you qualify for facial reconstruction, or curl up in a ball protecting your head from pain damage.


I hope you enjoyed this guide. Please feel free to ask for more specific guides related to self-defence/fighting, comment your questions, or PM me. If you are pursuing any combat sports yourself, ask me too.

Also feel free to ask about MMA/UFC/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ takes. I will give.
 
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If you don't want to end up being of the many drunk idiots that gets slept, manhandled, or slammed in the off-topic section, I highly suggest you read this thread. I'm an amateur MMA fighter with several fights, BJJ practitioner, and former scholastic wrestler. I haven't been in too many street fights per se, mostly because I'm tall asf and don't really get confronted, but when I have, I've dominated quite easily. Let's break down how to be a good fighter step by step.

As a note, knowing how to fight is extremely important in improving how you carry yourself. I'm comfortable with flirting with whoever I want and behaving how I want to because I know I can easily handle myself in any confrontation. The feeling of confidence in confrontation is something that helps with your presence a LOT.

Let's jump into the guide.

SETTING

Your approach to any physical confrontation must be to first understand where you are and who is around you. This sounds corny, but even the most dominant and experienced fighter could get his shit handled if he's in the wrong place. I will be structuring the guide to include some basic striking components, as well as some basic grappling components.

Striking should be primarily used in more open areas where there is an ability to establish range. Additionally, striking makes much more sense when fighting on hard surfaces such as concrete. I'm a talented grappler myself, but I wouldn't even initiate a grappling sequence with the ineptest opponent when on concrete, since implementing a takedown may hurt myself.

Grappling should be primarily used in situations where there is not much risk of others jumping into the fight, there are no drastic changes in elevation around you, the surface of which you are fighting on isn't hard or rough. In colder settings where people wear coats or any sort of clothing that has more "grips", I suggest using this.
Okay, let's now move onto discussing some basic striking.

STRIKING

Striking is actually what comes less naturally to us as humans. We have a proclivity towards wrestling, exhibited through how kids do so even in regions with no wrestling culture, but striking is a sport that goes against every sliver of human reflex. Luckily, because of this fact, you can achieve a lot more with having a bit of striking knowledge. Moreover, striking exchanges between two relatively untrained or untrained people is the situation in which weight/strength advantages have the least influence.

Throwing straight punches is the most unassumingly simple way to win a small striking exchange. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you the rotational mechanics of throwing a hook, cross, etc, since that is redundant and impossible to do without being physically present. But, if you notice in any of these fight videos, the individuals who throw a semi-straight punch is who lands and ultimately wins. Don't throw wild haymakers, you will terribly miss, lose balance, you won't be throwing hard regardless, and you will lose. Throw straight punches at the person's face. Forget about hitting them hard, focus on hitting them. Power means practically nothing in these low skill fights. If you notice, whoever lands a flush punch first primarily wins, no matter how pitty-patter it seems.

Let's reiterate to earlier. Haymakers are the most common punches thrown in a street fighting. Wild, uncoordinated swings. There are two counters to this attack.

1. Short Distance: If your opponent is extremely close to you and throwing wild, uncoordinated swings, you can respond with a horizontal elbow. Elbow strikes are a favorite of mine since untrained fighters aren't used to them or maybe don't even know they exist. It is also incredibly easier to throw more power with an elbow, they are much more resilient and sharper than your knuckles. Simply aim your elbow and swing up at the opponent's face. This technique honestly keeps your base balanced, (you aren't swinging your whole body across), and will cause a lot of damage.

2. Move out the fucking way: This goes without saying, if they are really out of range, just step back jfl. This way, your opponent will meaninglessly expend energy throwing useless punches, lose their fucking balance, and even if you have the worst hands, you can simply counter them while they are flailing about.

Kicking is something inexperienced practitioners should avoid. Your balance and base are the two most important things as a beginner, and you will give this up in a kick. Ofc, if I'm fighting, I'd chew up someone's calf or thigh with kicks, but this would be such a bad idea for someone who doesn't know how to. You may slip and fall on your ass, have your kick caught, or worst yet, your dumbass will drop your hands and get rocked trying to do your best Alex Pereira impression.

GRAPPLING

This is the fun part for me tbh. Grappling is a great way to get your opponent to the ground and beat their face bloody. As inexperienced practitioners, position is what matters. I've submitted high level grapplers for money before, but I would absolutely never attempt a submission in a street fight. Once again, DO NOT GRAPPLE IN SITUATIONS WHERE OTHERS MAY BE INVOLVED OR THE SURFACE IS ROUGH, ELEVATION CHANGES, ETC.

Drawing back to the positional aspect, ALWAYS BE ON TOP. Anything you do must be with the intent of maintaining top control which is the single greatest advantage in a street fight. Being on top allows for the possibilities for ground and pound, aka elbowing and punching tf out of the opponent.

Okay, so we understood to only stay on the top and not attempt or try anything that involves leg entanglements, getting to bottom etc. But how do we achieve top position in the first place.

Let's discuss takedowns. Takedowns are the reason why Caucasian inbreds are the best fighters in the world and the reason you'll save face at your next bar fight. First thing we need to understand is the art of getting grips. Grips will play into the next segment of the guide as well, but in the context of takedowns, grips are the single most important thing. There will be some grips you will be able to get no matter what, such as grabbing your opponent's neck, wrist, tricep area, or lat. Think of these areas as the holding points of how you push and pull, sort of like body levers. Pushing and pulling aimlessly actually works on the street pretty well since most people are uncoordinated asf.

Some grips may come as a result of clothing. If your opponent has a collar, GRAB IT. Now that we have discussed the grips we could potentially get, let's discuss how we fit them into doing actual takedowns.

1. The double leg: This is my favorite. There are several ways to do it and achieve it, but get leverage over some part of your opponent's lower body BELOW THEIR HIPS, and DRIVE FORWARD. Bonus points, drive them forward but to the left or right. This is a poor man's double leg and is a simple way to get them down. If you are a bigger or strong guy, you could pick the opponent up and slam them, instead of driving them down. Just make sure you aren't throwing yourself down with them.
2. The shitty street fight toss/sweep: Grab onto their collar or head, pull them in a direction while also tripping them or putting some sort of mechanical diversion onto their legs in order to cause them to lose balance. Do this with confidence and intention, and they will stumble. Seize the opportunity to either throw punches or keep trying to drive them to the ground while they are unbalanced.

Okay, I got to the ground. What tf now? Simple. Hit them. Stomp, elbow, punch, slap, do whatever you feel necessary to rain down strikes. Have at it, the fight is won at this point.

OH NO, I'M IN A TRICKY SPOT!!!!

There are a variety of sticky spots you can be in. Let's discuss a few possibilities that are most common.

1. You are being choked: If you are placed in a chokehold, first determine whether you are the side or directly in front of the person. If directly in front of the place, walk your feet back as far as you can while breaking the grip with your hands. By any means, do not get closer to them, as the choke will get tighter. If you are to the side of the person, they are mechanically disadvantaged and do not know how to fight. Continue moving, either backwards to get to their back from which you can slam them or push them away, or get closer and grab onto their legs, creating a solid grip before picking them and slamming them down. You are in no danger.
2. You are on the ground, on bottom: Immediately grab onto your opponent's wrists so they have no means of throwing any strikes. Wrist control is paramount. From there, try getting up, (see technical standup in BJJ), grabbing onto their legs to try and take them down, (see wrestling up), or just negating any damage until you are broken up by spectators.
3. Multiple people join in: Fucking book it. Just run, you aren't Jon Jones or some crazy prizefighter. If you're already on the ground, pray to Gandy that they'll punch you hard enough you qualify for facial reconstruction, or curl up in a ball protecting your head from pain damage.


I hope you enjoyed this guide. Please feel free to ask for more specific guides related to self-defence/fighting, comment your questions, or PM me. If you are pursuing any combat sports yourself, ask me too.

Also feel free to ask about MMA/UFC/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ takes. I will give.
Mirin I wanna start mma but a gym for them is expensive
 
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MIRIN , HIGH EFFORT THREAD

WILL TEST IT OUT ON @Jatt SOON
 
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try a free week trial or smth most gyms have, get buddy buddy with coach, and discuss possible payment plan they r usually chill
 
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The stuff u learn in it transfers so well to other martial arts too
 
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If you don't want to end up being of the many drunk idiots that gets slept, manhandled, or slammed in the off-topic section, I highly suggest you read this thread. I'm an amateur MMA fighter with several fights, BJJ practitioner, and former scholastic wrestler. I haven't been in too many street fights per se, mostly because I'm tall asf and don't really get confronted, but when I have, I've dominated quite easily. Let's break down how to be a good fighter step by step.

As a note, knowing how to fight is extremely important in improving how you carry yourself. I'm comfortable with flirting with whoever I want and behaving how I want to because I know I can easily handle myself in any confrontation. The feeling of confidence in confrontation is something that helps with your presence a LOT.

Let's jump into the guide.

SETTING

Your approach to any physical confrontation must be to first understand where you are and who is around you. This sounds corny, but even the most dominant and experienced fighter could get his shit handled if he's in the wrong place. I will be structuring the guide to include some basic striking components, as well as some basic grappling components.

Striking should be primarily used in more open areas where there is an ability to establish range. Additionally, striking makes much more sense when fighting on hard surfaces such as concrete. I'm a talented grappler myself, but I wouldn't even initiate a grappling sequence with the ineptest opponent when on concrete, since implementing a takedown may hurt myself.

Grappling should be primarily used in situations where there is not much risk of others jumping into the fight, there are no drastic changes in elevation around you, the surface of which you are fighting on isn't hard or rough. In colder settings where people wear coats or any sort of clothing that has more "grips", I suggest using this.
Okay, let's now move onto discussing some basic striking.

STRIKING

Striking is actually what comes less naturally to us as humans. We have a proclivity towards wrestling, exhibited through how kids do so even in regions with no wrestling culture, but striking is a sport that goes against every sliver of human reflex. Luckily, because of this fact, you can achieve a lot more with having a bit of striking knowledge. Moreover, striking exchanges between two relatively untrained or untrained people is the situation in which weight/strength advantages have the least influence.

Throwing straight punches is the most unassumingly simple way to win a small striking exchange. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you the rotational mechanics of throwing a hook, cross, etc, since that is redundant and impossible to do without being physically present. But, if you notice in any of these fight videos, the individuals who throw a semi-straight punch is who lands and ultimately wins. Don't throw wild haymakers, you will terribly miss, lose balance, you won't be throwing hard regardless, and you will lose. Throw straight punches at the person's face. Forget about hitting them hard, focus on hitting them. Power means practically nothing in these low skill fights. If you notice, whoever lands a flush punch first primarily wins, no matter how pitty-patter it seems.

Let's reiterate to earlier. Haymakers are the most common punches thrown in a street fighting. Wild, uncoordinated swings. There are two counters to this attack.

1. Short Distance: If your opponent is extremely close to you and throwing wild, uncoordinated swings, you can respond with a horizontal elbow. Elbow strikes are a favorite of mine since untrained fighters aren't used to them or maybe don't even know they exist. It is also incredibly easier to throw more power with an elbow, they are much more resilient and sharper than your knuckles. Simply aim your elbow and swing up at the opponent's face. This technique honestly keeps your base balanced, (you aren't swinging your whole body across), and will cause a lot of damage.

2. Move out the fucking way: This goes without saying, if they are really out of range, just step back jfl. This way, your opponent will meaninglessly expend energy throwing useless punches, lose their fucking balance, and even if you have the worst hands, you can simply counter them while they are flailing about.

Kicking is something inexperienced practitioners should avoid. Your balance and base are the two most important things as a beginner, and you will give this up in a kick. Ofc, if I'm fighting, I'd chew up someone's calf or thigh with kicks, but this would be such a bad idea for someone who doesn't know how to. You may slip and fall on your ass, have your kick caught, or worst yet, your dumbass will drop your hands and get rocked trying to do your best Alex Pereira impression.

GRAPPLING

This is the fun part for me tbh. Grappling is a great way to get your opponent to the ground and beat their face bloody. As inexperienced practitioners, position is what matters. I've submitted high level grapplers for money before, but I would absolutely never attempt a submission in a street fight. Once again, DO NOT GRAPPLE IN SITUATIONS WHERE OTHERS MAY BE INVOLVED OR THE SURFACE IS ROUGH, ELEVATION CHANGES, ETC.

Drawing back to the positional aspect, ALWAYS BE ON TOP. Anything you do must be with the intent of maintaining top control which is the single greatest advantage in a street fight. Being on top allows for the possibilities for ground and pound, aka elbowing and punching tf out of the opponent.

Okay, so we understood to only stay on the top and not attempt or try anything that involves leg entanglements, getting to bottom etc. But how do we achieve top position in the first place.

Let's discuss takedowns. Takedowns are the reason why Caucasian inbreds are the best fighters in the world and the reason you'll save face at your next bar fight. First thing we need to understand is the art of getting grips. Grips will play into the next segment of the guide as well, but in the context of takedowns, grips are the single most important thing. There will be some grips you will be able to get no matter what, such as grabbing your opponent's neck, wrist, tricep area, or lat. Think of these areas as the holding points of how you push and pull, sort of like body levers. Pushing and pulling aimlessly actually works on the street pretty well since most people are uncoordinated asf.

Some grips may come as a result of clothing. If your opponent has a collar, GRAB IT. Now that we have discussed the grips we could potentially get, let's discuss how we fit them into doing actual takedowns.

1. The double leg: This is my favorite. There are several ways to do it and achieve it, but get leverage over some part of your opponent's lower body BELOW THEIR HIPS, and DRIVE FORWARD. Bonus points, drive them forward but to the left or right. This is a poor man's double leg and is a simple way to get them down. If you are a bigger or strong guy, you could pick the opponent up and slam them, instead of driving them down. Just make sure you aren't throwing yourself down with them.
2. The shitty street fight toss/sweep: Grab onto their collar or head, pull them in a direction while also tripping them or putting some sort of mechanical diversion onto their legs in order to cause them to lose balance. Do this with confidence and intention, and they will stumble. Seize the opportunity to either throw punches or keep trying to drive them to the ground while they are unbalanced.

Okay, I got to the ground. What tf now? Simple. Hit them. Stomp, elbow, punch, slap, do whatever you feel necessary to rain down strikes. Have at it, the fight is won at this point.

OH NO, I'M IN A TRICKY SPOT!!!!

There are a variety of sticky spots you can be in. Let's discuss a few possibilities that are most common.

1. You are being choked: If you are placed in a chokehold, first determine whether you are the side or directly in front of the person. If directly in front of the place, walk your feet back as far as you can while breaking the grip with your hands. By any means, do not get closer to them, as the choke will get tighter. If you are to the side of the person, they are mechanically disadvantaged and do not know how to fight. Continue moving, either backwards to get to their back from which you can slam them or push them away, or get closer and grab onto their legs, creating a solid grip before picking them and slamming them down. You are in no danger.
2. You are on the ground, on bottom: Immediately grab onto your opponent's wrists so they have no means of throwing any strikes. Wrist control is paramount. From there, try getting up, (see technical standup in BJJ), grabbing onto their legs to try and take them down, (see wrestling up), or just negating any damage until you are broken up by spectators.
3. Multiple people join in: Fucking book it. Just run, you aren't Jon Jones or some crazy prizefighter. If you're already on the ground, pray to Gandy that they'll punch you hard enough you qualify for facial reconstruction, or curl up in a ball protecting your head from pain damage.


I hope you enjoyed this guide. Please feel free to ask for more specific guides related to self-defence/fighting, comment your questions, or PM me. If you are pursuing any combat sports yourself, ask me too.

Also feel free to ask about MMA/UFC/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ takes. I will give.
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1. You are being choked: If you are placed in a chokehold, first determine whether you are the side or directly in front of the person. If directly in front of the place, walk your feet back as far as you can while breaking the grip with your hands. By any means, do not get closer to them, as the choke will get tighter. If you are to the side of the person, they are mechanically disadvantaged and do not know how to fight. Continue moving, either backwards to get to their back from which you can slam them or push them away, or get closer and grab onto their legs, creating a solid grip before picking them and slamming them down. You are in no danger.
if ur getting choked chances are the guy trains and you don't, nothing is helping you

ur saying you've submitted high level grapplers for money, what is high level? are you some kind of professional jiu jitsu guy? Have you beat dudes at adcc trials or some big tournament or won like naga absolute in a brown/black belt class? I'd be very surprised if someone (even at a blue belt or higher level) would be on an incel forum like this

im genuinely just curious btw, I got my blue belt the second i turned 16 and have like 100 wins in wrestling and train with tons of ufc fighters and pretty much nobody has made money from subbing guys minus two of the dudes who went to ADCC
 
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if ur one on one in a fight why are you saying don't attempt submissions? i understand falling off of top position to chase an arm bar is a bad move but ur telling me a head and arm presents itself and ur not going for that? even if the dude has slick jiu jitsu the best he can do from a legit head and arm attempt is turn and turtle, which leaves you on top and able to punch him/take his back? again thats assuming the choke fails
 
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if ur one on one in a fight why are you saying don't attempt submissions?
prolly cuz this is a guide for people who dont train and if you dont train you are not pulling off any submissions
 
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if ur getting choked chances are the guy trains and you don't, nothing is helping you

ur saying you've submitted high level grapplers for money, what is high level? are you some kind of professional jiu jitsu guy? Have you beat dudes at adcc trials or some big tournament or won like naga absolute in a brown/black belt class? I'd be very surprised if someone (even at a blue belt or higher level) would be on an incel forum like this

im genuinely just curious btw, I got my blue belt the second i turned 16 and have like 100 wins in wrestling and train with tons of ufc fighters and pretty much nobody has made money from subbing guys minus two of the dudes who went to ADCC
hello,

the choking part refers to a normal barmans chokehold or "schoolyard chokehold". im a blue belt that won a local superfight or two against purple belts. it wasnt a lot of money whatsoever. im definitely not a pro


im a grey so that explains y i actually have a grappling pedigree lol. i also wrestled in hs. got my blue belt at 16 too.
 
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if ur one on one in a fight why are you saying don't attempt submissions? i understand falling off of top position to chase an arm bar is a bad move but ur telling me a head and arm presents itself and ur not going for that? even if the dude has slick jiu jitsu the best he can do from a legit head and arm attempt is turn and turtle, which leaves you on top and able to punch him/take his back? again thats assuming the choke fails
head and arm chokes arent even a good way to maintain positional advantage since you mostly have to finish by transitioning to the side. a keylock/kimura/americana would make sense but this is a general guide not for grapplers
 
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hello,

the choking part refers to a normal barmans chokehold or "schoolyard chokehold". im a blue belt that won a local superfight or two against purple belts. it wasnt a lot of money whatsoever. im definitely not a pro


im a grey so that explains y i actually have a grappling pedigree lol. i also wrestled in hs. got my blue belt at 16 too.
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head and arm chokes arent even a good way to maintain positional advantage since you mostly have to finish by transitioning to the side.
that doesnt mean its not a good way to hold position, are we acting like top side control is bad anyway? i recall brendan allen and khamzat (two best grapplers at mw) actually winning their last two fights almost enitrely off side control, and not mount or back or turtle or half guard
 
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hello,

the choking part refers to a normal barmans chokehold or "schoolyard chokehold". im a blue belt that won a local superfight or two against purple belts. it wasnt a lot of money whatsoever. im definitely not a pro


im a grey so that explains y i actually have a grappling pedigree lol. i also wrestled in hs. got my blue belt at 16 too.
how old are you now btw?
 
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that doesnt mean its not a good way to hold position, are we acting like top side control is bad anyway? i recall brendan allen and khamzat (two best grapplers at mw) actually winning their last two fights almost enitrely off side control, and not mount or back or turtle or half guard
it is decent but requires actual knowledge of gnp and maintaining control, meanwhile having mount or some weird alteration of half guard makes it a lot more intuitive.

This is all lowk redundant to speak abt the point of the guide was simple guidelines
 
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If you don't want to end up being of the many drunk idiots that gets slept, manhandled, or slammed in the off-topic section, I highly suggest you read this thread. I'm an amateur MMA fighter with several fights, BJJ practitioner, and former scholastic wrestler. I haven't been in too many street fights per se, mostly because I'm tall asf and don't really get confronted, but when I have, I've dominated quite easily. Let's break down how to be a good fighter step by step.

As a note, knowing how to fight is extremely important in improving how you carry yourself. I'm comfortable with flirting with whoever I want and behaving how I want to because I know I can easily handle myself in any confrontation. The feeling of confidence in confrontation is something that helps with your presence a LOT.

Let's jump into the guide.

SETTING

Your approach to any physical confrontation must be to first understand where you are and who is around you. This sounds corny, but even the most dominant and experienced fighter could get his shit handled if he's in the wrong place. I will be structuring the guide to include some basic striking components, as well as some basic grappling components.

Striking should be primarily used in more open areas where there is an ability to establish range. Additionally, striking makes much more sense when fighting on hard surfaces such as concrete. I'm a talented grappler myself, but I wouldn't even initiate a grappling sequence with the ineptest opponent when on concrete, since implementing a takedown may hurt myself.

Grappling should be primarily used in situations where there is not much risk of others jumping into the fight, there are no drastic changes in elevation around you, the surface of which you are fighting on isn't hard or rough. In colder settings where people wear coats or any sort of clothing that has more "grips", I suggest using this.
Okay, let's now move onto discussing some basic striking.

STRIKING

Striking is actually what comes less naturally to us as humans. We have a proclivity towards wrestling, exhibited through how kids do so even in regions with no wrestling culture, but striking is a sport that goes against every sliver of human reflex. Luckily, because of this fact, you can achieve a lot more with having a bit of striking knowledge. Moreover, striking exchanges between two relatively untrained or untrained people is the situation in which weight/strength advantages have the least influence.

Throwing straight punches is the most unassumingly simple way to win a small striking exchange. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you the rotational mechanics of throwing a hook, cross, etc, since that is redundant and impossible to do without being physically present. But, if you notice in any of these fight videos, the individuals who throw a semi-straight punch is who lands and ultimately wins. Don't throw wild haymakers, you will terribly miss, lose balance, you won't be throwing hard regardless, and you will lose. Throw straight punches at the person's face. Forget about hitting them hard, focus on hitting them. Power means practically nothing in these low skill fights. If you notice, whoever lands a flush punch first primarily wins, no matter how pitty-patter it seems.

Let's reiterate to earlier. Haymakers are the most common punches thrown in a street fighting. Wild, uncoordinated swings. There are two counters to this attack.

1. Short Distance: If your opponent is extremely close to you and throwing wild, uncoordinated swings, you can respond with a horizontal elbow. Elbow strikes are a favorite of mine since untrained fighters aren't used to them or maybe don't even know they exist. It is also incredibly easier to throw more power with an elbow, they are much more resilient and sharper than your knuckles. Simply aim your elbow and swing up at the opponent's face. This technique honestly keeps your base balanced, (you aren't swinging your whole body across), and will cause a lot of damage.

2. Move out the fucking way: This goes without saying, if they are really out of range, just step back jfl. This way, your opponent will meaninglessly expend energy throwing useless punches, lose their fucking balance, and even if you have the worst hands, you can simply counter them while they are flailing about.

Kicking is something inexperienced practitioners should avoid. Your balance and base are the two most important things as a beginner, and you will give this up in a kick. Ofc, if I'm fighting, I'd chew up someone's calf or thigh with kicks, but this would be such a bad idea for someone who doesn't know how to. You may slip and fall on your ass, have your kick caught, or worst yet, your dumbass will drop your hands and get rocked trying to do your best Alex Pereira impression.

GRAPPLING

This is the fun part for me tbh. Grappling is a great way to get your opponent to the ground and beat their face bloody. As inexperienced practitioners, position is what matters. I've submitted high level grapplers for money before, but I would absolutely never attempt a submission in a street fight. Once again, DO NOT GRAPPLE IN SITUATIONS WHERE OTHERS MAY BE INVOLVED OR THE SURFACE IS ROUGH, ELEVATION CHANGES, ETC.

Drawing back to the positional aspect, ALWAYS BE ON TOP. Anything you do must be with the intent of maintaining top control which is the single greatest advantage in a street fight. Being on top allows for the possibilities for ground and pound, aka elbowing and punching tf out of the opponent.

Okay, so we understood to only stay on the top and not attempt or try anything that involves leg entanglements, getting to bottom etc. But how do we achieve top position in the first place.

Let's discuss takedowns. Takedowns are the reason why Caucasian inbreds are the best fighters in the world and the reason you'll save face at your next bar fight. First thing we need to understand is the art of getting grips. Grips will play into the next segment of the guide as well, but in the context of takedowns, grips are the single most important thing. There will be some grips you will be able to get no matter what, such as grabbing your opponent's neck, wrist, tricep area, or lat. Think of these areas as the holding points of how you push and pull, sort of like body levers. Pushing and pulling aimlessly actually works on the street pretty well since most people are uncoordinated asf.

Some grips may come as a result of clothing. If your opponent has a collar, GRAB IT. Now that we have discussed the grips we could potentially get, let's discuss how we fit them into doing actual takedowns.

1. The double leg: This is my favorite. There are several ways to do it and achieve it, but get leverage over some part of your opponent's lower body BELOW THEIR HIPS, and DRIVE FORWARD. Bonus points, drive them forward but to the left or right. This is a poor man's double leg and is a simple way to get them down. If you are a bigger or strong guy, you could pick the opponent up and slam them, instead of driving them down. Just make sure you aren't throwing yourself down with them.
2. The shitty street fight toss/sweep: Grab onto their collar or head, pull them in a direction while also tripping them or putting some sort of mechanical diversion onto their legs in order to cause them to lose balance. Do this with confidence and intention, and they will stumble. Seize the opportunity to either throw punches or keep trying to drive them to the ground while they are unbalanced.

Okay, I got to the ground. What tf now? Simple. Hit them. Stomp, elbow, punch, slap, do whatever you feel necessary to rain down strikes. Have at it, the fight is won at this point.

OH NO, I'M IN A TRICKY SPOT!!!!

There are a variety of sticky spots you can be in. Let's discuss a few possibilities that are most common.

1. You are being choked: If you are placed in a chokehold, first determine whether you are the side or directly in front of the person. If directly in front of the place, walk your feet back as far as you can while breaking the grip with your hands. By any means, do not get closer to them, as the choke will get tighter. If you are to the side of the person, they are mechanically disadvantaged and do not know how to fight. Continue moving, either backwards to get to their back from which you can slam them or push them away, or get closer and grab onto their legs, creating a solid grip before picking them and slamming them down. You are in no danger.
2. You are on the ground, on bottom: Immediately grab onto your opponent's wrists so they have no means of throwing any strikes. Wrist control is paramount. From there, try getting up, (see technical standup in BJJ), grabbing onto their legs to try and take them down, (see wrestling up), or just negating any damage until you are broken up by spectators.
3. Multiple people join in: Fucking book it. Just run, you aren't Jon Jones or some crazy prizefighter. If you're already on the ground, pray to Gandy that they'll punch you hard enough you qualify for facial reconstruction, or curl up in a ball protecting your head from pain damage.


I hope you enjoyed this guide. Please feel free to ask for more specific guides related to self-defence/fighting, comment your questions, or PM me. If you are pursuing any combat sports yourself, ask me too.

Also feel free to ask about MMA/UFC/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ takes. I will give.
Mirin high effort thread
 
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You can't learn to fight from a "guide" js saying

Also I don't know where u copy and pasted this shit from
 
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dnr the natural fighting style will always prevail
 
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You can't learn to fight from a "guide" js saying

Also I don't know where u copy and pasted this shit from
i wrote it completely by myself

its guideliens
 
do u plan to fight ever or no
ive had an amateur fight mma n one kickboxing as well as a couple smokers. age is 17 where im from for mma
 
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ive had an amateur fight mma n one kickboxing as well as a couple smokers. age is 17 where im from for mma
how did the amateur fight go?
did you wrestle fuck the guy or was it some stud
 
how did the amateur fight go?
did you wrestle fuck the guy or was it some stud
won a decision dude was some bjj guy had me in a couple annoying 50/50 leg entanglements where I was scared asf other than that outstruck him volume wise and had hella control time
 
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Bookmarked, I plan on starting training soon
 
Bookmarked, I plan on starting training soon
if you plan on training, join a gym and listen to ur coach. if u do bjj or MT hmu if u ever need personal tips
 
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fighting is useless since the human brain is shit you will just get cte and cauliflower ears and other broken body parts
 
fighting is useless since the human brain is shit you will just get cte and cauliflower ears and other broken body parts
I will beat ur ass and fuck ur gf 🥺🥺🥺🥺
 
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fighting is useless since the human brain is shit you will just get cte and cauliflower ears and other broken body parts
Yes but also everything is useless so just do what you want
 
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thank you, I will test the double leg takedown on the next foid that rejects me at the club.
 
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bump gimme all ur reps :feelskek: :
 
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this nigga is right about the haymaker part lol. last week i got in a fight and my first punch i threw i missed then got whacked jfl. mirin thread though, this is pure motivation to start training
 
If you don't want to end up being of the many drunk idiots that gets slept, manhandled, or slammed in the off-topic section, I highly suggest you read this thread. I'm an amateur MMA fighter with several fights, BJJ practitioner, and former scholastic wrestler. I haven't been in too many street fights per se, mostly because I'm tall asf and don't really get confronted, but when I have, I've dominated quite easily. Let's break down how to be a good fighter step by step.

As a note, knowing how to fight is extremely important in improving how you carry yourself. I'm comfortable with flirting with whoever I want and behaving how I want to because I know I can easily handle myself in any confrontation. The feeling of confidence in confrontation is something that helps with your presence a LOT.

Let's jump into the guide.

SETTING

Your approach to any physical confrontation must be to first understand where you are and who is around you. This sounds corny, but even the most dominant and experienced fighter could get his shit handled if he's in the wrong place. I will be structuring the guide to include some basic striking components, as well as some basic grappling components.

Striking should be primarily used in more open areas where there is an ability to establish range. Additionally, striking makes much more sense when fighting on hard surfaces such as concrete. I'm a talented grappler myself, but I wouldn't even initiate a grappling sequence with the ineptest opponent when on concrete, since implementing a takedown may hurt myself.

Grappling should be primarily used in situations where there is not much risk of others jumping into the fight, there are no drastic changes in elevation around you, the surface of which you are fighting on isn't hard or rough. In colder settings where people wear coats or any sort of clothing that has more "grips", I suggest using this.
Okay, let's now move onto discussing some basic striking.

STRIKING

Striking is actually what comes less naturally to us as humans. We have a proclivity towards wrestling, exhibited through how kids do so even in regions with no wrestling culture, but striking is a sport that goes against every sliver of human reflex. Luckily, because of this fact, you can achieve a lot more with having a bit of striking knowledge. Moreover, striking exchanges between two relatively untrained or untrained people is the situation in which weight/strength advantages have the least influence.

Throwing straight punches is the most unassumingly simple way to win a small striking exchange. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you the rotational mechanics of throwing a hook, cross, etc, since that is redundant and impossible to do without being physically present. But, if you notice in any of these fight videos, the individuals who throw a semi-straight punch is who lands and ultimately wins. Don't throw wild haymakers, you will terribly miss, lose balance, you won't be throwing hard regardless, and you will lose. Throw straight punches at the person's face. Forget about hitting them hard, focus on hitting them. Power means practically nothing in these low skill fights. If you notice, whoever lands a flush punch first primarily wins, no matter how pitty-patter it seems.

Let's reiterate to earlier. Haymakers are the most common punches thrown in a street fighting. Wild, uncoordinated swings. There are two counters to this attack.

1. Short Distance: If your opponent is extremely close to you and throwing wild, uncoordinated swings, you can respond with a horizontal elbow. Elbow strikes are a favorite of mine since untrained fighters aren't used to them or maybe don't even know they exist. It is also incredibly easier to throw more power with an elbow, they are much more resilient and sharper than your knuckles. Simply aim your elbow and swing up at the opponent's face. This technique honestly keeps your base balanced, (you aren't swinging your whole body across), and will cause a lot of damage.

2. Move out the fucking way: This goes without saying, if they are really out of range, just step back jfl. This way, your opponent will meaninglessly expend energy throwing useless punches, lose their fucking balance, and even if you have the worst hands, you can simply counter them while they are flailing about.

Kicking is something inexperienced practitioners should avoid. Your balance and base are the two most important things as a beginner, and you will give this up in a kick. Ofc, if I'm fighting, I'd chew up someone's calf or thigh with kicks, but this would be such a bad idea for someone who doesn't know how to. You may slip and fall on your ass, have your kick caught, or worst yet, your dumbass will drop your hands and get rocked trying to do your best Alex Pereira impression.

GRAPPLING

This is the fun part for me tbh. Grappling is a great way to get your opponent to the ground and beat their face bloody. As inexperienced practitioners, position is what matters. I've submitted high level grapplers for money before, but I would absolutely never attempt a submission in a street fight. Once again, DO NOT GRAPPLE IN SITUATIONS WHERE OTHERS MAY BE INVOLVED OR THE SURFACE IS ROUGH, ELEVATION CHANGES, ETC.

Drawing back to the positional aspect, ALWAYS BE ON TOP. Anything you do must be with the intent of maintaining top control which is the single greatest advantage in a street fight. Being on top allows for the possibilities for ground and pound, aka elbowing and punching tf out of the opponent.

Okay, so we understood to only stay on the top and not attempt or try anything that involves leg entanglements, getting to bottom etc. But how do we achieve top position in the first place.

Let's discuss takedowns. Takedowns are the reason why Caucasian inbreds are the best fighters in the world and the reason you'll save face at your next bar fight. First thing we need to understand is the art of getting grips. Grips will play into the next segment of the guide as well, but in the context of takedowns, grips are the single most important thing. There will be some grips you will be able to get no matter what, such as grabbing your opponent's neck, wrist, tricep area, or lat. Think of these areas as the holding points of how you push and pull, sort of like body levers. Pushing and pulling aimlessly actually works on the street pretty well since most people are uncoordinated asf.

Some grips may come as a result of clothing. If your opponent has a collar, GRAB IT. Now that we have discussed the grips we could potentially get, let's discuss how we fit them into doing actual takedowns.

1. The double leg: This is my favorite. There are several ways to do it and achieve it, but get leverage over some part of your opponent's lower body BELOW THEIR HIPS, and DRIVE FORWARD. Bonus points, drive them forward but to the left or right. This is a poor man's double leg and is a simple way to get them down. If you are a bigger or strong guy, you could pick the opponent up and slam them, instead of driving them down. Just make sure you aren't throwing yourself down with them.
2. The shitty street fight toss/sweep: Grab onto their collar or head, pull them in a direction while also tripping them or putting some sort of mechanical diversion onto their legs in order to cause them to lose balance. Do this with confidence and intention, and they will stumble. Seize the opportunity to either throw punches or keep trying to drive them to the ground while they are unbalanced.

Okay, I got to the ground. What tf now? Simple. Hit them. Stomp, elbow, punch, slap, do whatever you feel necessary to rain down strikes. Have at it, the fight is won at this point.

OH NO, I'M IN A TRICKY SPOT!!!!

There are a variety of sticky spots you can be in. Let's discuss a few possibilities that are most common.

1. You are being choked: If you are placed in a chokehold, first determine whether you are the side or directly in front of the person. If directly in front of the place, walk your feet back as far as you can while breaking the grip with your hands. By any means, do not get closer to them, as the choke will get tighter. If you are to the side of the person, they are mechanically disadvantaged and do not know how to fight. Continue moving, either backwards to get to their back from which you can slam them or push them away, or get closer and grab onto their legs, creating a solid grip before picking them and slamming them down. You are in no danger.
2. You are on the ground, on bottom: Immediately grab onto your opponent's wrists so they have no means of throwing any strikes. Wrist control is paramount. From there, try getting up, (see technical standup in BJJ), grabbing onto their legs to try and take them down, (see wrestling up), or just negating any damage until you are broken up by spectators.
3. Multiple people join in: Fucking book it. Just run, you aren't Jon Jones or some crazy prizefighter. If you're already on the ground, pray to Gandy that they'll punch you hard enough you qualify for facial reconstruction, or curl up in a ball protecting your head from pain damage.


I hope you enjoyed this guide. Please feel free to ask for more specific guides related to self-defence/fighting, comment your questions, or PM me. If you are pursuing any combat sports yourself, ask me too.

Also feel free to ask about MMA/UFC/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ takes. I will give.
Mirin good thread
 
seems kinda sus that you'd dominate street fights easily if you haven't been in many tbh source?
 

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