Finally settled on a risk-adverse surgical ascension plan to get to MTN

[Acquiescence]

Face n CT scan:

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads

 

[zemult]

 

[Acquiescence]

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I like this one better:

And here’s one for our patron saint of Cyclopes:

 

[zemult]

I like this one better:
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And here’s one for our patron saint of Cyclopes:
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Was the eye spacing even changed in the top morph? It actually looks good

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Face n CT scan:
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View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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It’s a plan but remember to live in the meantime.

Don’t put evething else in your life on hold until its fruition

 

[Acquiescence]

Was the eye spacing even changed in the top morph? It actually looks good

Can’t say for sure because I just slapped on a generic faceapp filter, but I recall it was little to no change in the spacing. Mainly just gave me more compact orbitals, lower and straighter set brows, slightly extended the outer eyelids to fraud better pfl etc. A bunch of micro changes basically

It’s a plan but remember to live in the meantime.

Don’t put evething else in your life on hold until its fruition

Don’t worry, I don that court jester hat almost every weekend, even if I’m nothing more than a replaceable cringemaxxed oofy doofy getting ruthlessly mogged to the stratosphere. There’s plenty of fun to be had out there even if sub8

 

[CEO]

All the best brother ️

 

[ltn_looksminner]

Face n CT scan:
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View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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is eye fat grafting legit ? i heard it can even cause blindness

 

[Acquiescence]

is eye fat grafting legit ? i heard it can even cause blindness

Probably a non-zero chance for that but that’s life. I think the risk to reward is acceptable though

There’s been good results posted to the forum before, check out @WrathOfOlives result:
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-eye-area-transformation-bug-eyes-to-hooded-eyes.1407302/

 

[lurking truecel]

You need lower eyelid tightening if you want the schlera show to be gone. Doing bimax is not worth in your case. Maybe chin and jaw implants, + zygo implants and a lip lift. Paranasal implants could also be a option which should lift the lip little bit without making your nose worse from side and front. And then you can do fat graft.

Maybe it would be possible to do lower eyelid tightening and implants at the same time. Then go back to do the paranasal and fat graft and maybe some midface tight procedure also. This will be a lot more cost effective and less recovery heavy then doing bimax that would do nothing in your case.

 

[lurking truecel]

And also you are already mtn now, your narrow lips and none exsistent upper lip and maybe slightly too closet eyes are the thing that makes you look a bit like a cuck now

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

mirin. best of luck bro

 

[Acquiescence]

You need lower eyelid tightening if you want the schlera show to be gone. Doing bimax is not worth in your case. Maybe chin and jaw implants, + zygo implants and a lip lift. Paranasal implants could also be a option which should lift the lip little bit without making your nose worse from side and front. And then you can do fat graft.

Maybe it would be possible to do lower eyelid tightening and implants at the same time. Then go back to do the paranasal and fat graft and maybe some midface tight procedure also. This will be a lot more cost effective and less recovery heavy then doing bimax that would do nothing in your case.

And also you are already mtn now, your narrow lips and none exsistent upper lip and maybe slightly too closet eyes are the thing that makes you look a bit like a cuck now

Appreciate the input brother

Ramieri consult in two weeks now, I’ll be reporting back his thoughts on my case. But I’ll definitely take what you said into consideration

18.5k currently saved up as well. I’ll undergo the first round of surgery probably within the next 12 months. Can’t wait, it’s been a long time coming. Nothing’s guaranteed of course, but all I can do is try my best

 

[fika2]

Face n CT scan:
View attachment 3659811View attachment 3659813View attachment 3659815
View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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you need a lip lift not filler

 

[YvesS]

You need lower eyelid tightening if you want the schlera show to be gone. Doing bimax is not worth in your case. Maybe chin and jaw implants, + zygo implants and a lip lift. Paranasal implants could also be a option which should lift the lip little bit without making your nose worse from side and front. And then you can do fat graft.

Maybe it would be possible to do lower eyelid tightening and implants at the same time. Then go back to do the paranasal and fat graft and maybe some midface tight procedure also. This will be a lot more cost effective and less recovery heavy then doing bimax that would do nothing in your case.

yo bro can i pm u to ask what i need for surgeries pls

 

[YvesS]

you need a lip lift not filler

can I pm u to ask what i need for surgeries

 

[fika2]

can I pm u to ask what i need for surgeries

sorry man i rather not, goodluck tho

 

[flatcheck213]

Face n CT scan:
View attachment 3659811View attachment 3659813View attachment 3659815
View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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Ngl you look like a plastic doll

 

[ducksoover]

Face n CT scan:
View attachment 3659811View attachment 3659813View attachment 3659815
View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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haha I love your line of thinking, similar to mine. Except I'm way uglier than you boyo

 

[Acquiescence]

Ngl you look like a plastic doll

Probably a natural consequence of tazarotene, dysport, and laser hair removal jfl

 

[LEFORT17]

Face n CT scan:
View attachment 3659811View attachment 3659813View attachment 3659815
View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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how do you get that type of 3dct scan

 

[Acquiescence]

how do you get that type of 3dct scan

Referral from maxfac sent to local imaging center

 

[adarsh arya]

very rare case you talking about

 

[Acquiescence]

very rare case you talking about

Elab?

 

[adarsh arya]

Elab?

sorry i forgot to tag the person i was replying to my bad

 

[adarsh arya]

Elab?

btw as per you how much rameiri will take for infra and zygomtic implants ???

 

[Acquiescence]

btw as per you how much rameiri will take for infra and zygomtic implants ???

10k

 

[subltn]

10k

do you know what method the surgeon is going to use for those implants? cuz i've seen a few do some bullshit where they go in from above the eyebrow by cutting the skin and u basically can't see for like a whole week and gotta have someone take care of you

 

[Acquiescence]

do you know what method the surgeon is going to use for those implants? cuz i've seen a few do some bullshit where they go in from above the eyebrow by cutting the skin and u basically can't see for like a whole week and gotta have someone take care of you

Ram does intraoral incisions for infras

 

[tweaqo]

do you know what method the surgeon is going to use for those implants? cuz i've seen a few do some bullshit where they go in from above the eyebrow by cutting the skin and u basically can't see for like a whole week and gotta have someone take care of you

He’s getting infras, not supras. You just described supra orbital rim implants.

 

[subltn]

He’s getting infras, not supras. You just described supra orbital rim implants.

i saw taban do it in this video

 

[YoungWerther]

is eye fat grafting legit ? i heard it can even cause blindness

Just had it done. It’s incredibly low risk, provided you have an occuloplastic surgeon do it. You should be going to specialists for everything anyway.

 

[YoungWerther]

Probably a non-zero chance for that but that’s life. I think the risk to reward is acceptable though

There’s been good results posted to the forum before, check out @WrathOfOlives result:
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-eye-area-transformation-bug-eyes-to-hooded-eyes.1407302/

It’s very low risk and prob the least invasive procedure you listed (don’t get fillers of any sort, lots of doctors are dropping them from their practice altogether. They do not dissolve, always migrate, and will eventually erase the definition in your philtrum, which is an important marker of youth).

For anything orbital fat, go to an occuloplastic surgeon. So basically Taban, Masry, or if you can’t afford them, Vrcek (I had it done w him and he’s great; he’s only not as high profile as the other two because he’s very young and has a newer practice, and he’s not located in Beverly Hills or NYC).

 

[ltn_looksminner]

Just had it done. It’s incredibly low risk, provided you have an occuloplastic surgeon do it. You should be going to specialists for everything anyway.

congrats boyo , dont mind that post i was gray af , how's the results and shit

 

[Wurzel]

Appreciate the input brother

Ramieri consult in two weeks now, I’ll be reporting back his thoughts on my case. But I’ll definitely take what you said into consideration

18.5k currently saved up as well. I’ll undergo the first round of surgery probably within the next 12 months. Can’t wait, it’s been a long time coming. Nothing’s guaranteed of course, but all I can do is try my best

I feel bad for pooroids. I am 23 and never had a real job just getting money for studying. I got more than that. JUST BECAUSE I AM NORWEGIAN.

 

[Wurzel]

It’s very low risk and prob the least invasive procedure you listed (don’t get fillers of any sort, lots of doctors are dropping them from their practice altogether. They do not dissolve, always migrate, and will eventually erase the definition in your philtrum, which is an important marker of youth).

For anything orbital fat, go to an occuloplastic surgeon. So basically Taban, Masry, or if you can’t afford them, Vrcek (I had it done w him and he’s great; he’s only not as high profile as the other two because he’s very young and has a newer practice, and he’s not located in Beverly Hills or NYC).

Nah go to Thailand. Ratantan. Or I went to Vanity clinic in Turkey. But the results are minimal want to ascend more. Just asked for undereyes though.

 

[Wurzel]

Face n CT scan:
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View attachment 3659865

Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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Die or try.

 

[Wurzel]

Die or try.

You need to hop on something that boosts your Test from the convservativeness of this post unironically.

 

[Acquiescence]

You need to hop on something that boosts your Test from the convservativeness of this post unironically.

Funny you bumped this ancient thread because it’s completely inaccurate now

Come 2029 when I’m a fully licensed sparky and have 80k+ in the bank I’ll hit up Giant for the full face chaddification deluxe package

No point in coping with minimal improvement and seeing no irl difference

 

[nishka]

Face n CT scan:
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Two phase ascension plan:

Phase 1: Ramieri visit in 2026
- Consulting with him next month, so this could be revised down as per his professional opinion (he suggested just genio years ago when I yolo'd over some pics his way, but I didn't have scans yet for a proper analysis at the time), but I asked about trimax with custom plates and guides + saddled infraorbital malar implants

Phase 2: Smaller scattered procedures in 2027
- Small HT to straighten out hairline
- Upper / lower eyelid fat grafting
- Lip fillers

Aiming for conservative, natural-looking results from each procedure ofc

All on top of the typical softmaxxes and anti-aging contingencies you see reqqed here frequently + lifts + agefrauding early 20s as long as possible

That's it. While I'd theoretically benefit from a whole host of surgeries that would total up to multiple 100s of thousands, after a lot of self reflection lately, I ain't about that life man. Working on saving up the ~50k this plan alone is going to ultimately cost has been torturous as it is ngl. Can't see myself staying mentally strong enough to keep going after multiple intense invasive procedures, likely with a fair share of botches and/or complications (each one then requiring revision and followups), all for an uncertain and likely marginal or uncanny outcome

Will be 26 by the time it's all said and done. Need to take action ASAP before it's too late for any semblance of meaningful ascension to occur re:agepill

MTN + jbw (on top of frauded 5'10"->6'1" and frauded early 20s) should be enough to get genuine interest from LTBs during geomaxxing stints. But if not, I'll just continue to cope with my current hobbies and family / platonic relationships between wageslave shifts into perpetuity, perhaps with occasional escortcelling

And at least at the MTN threshold, I won't despise my appearance every time I look into a mirror + it should keep me in the "invisible" social treatment range rather than sliding ever further down into the exponential social failo effect of sub5dom over time (until advanced old age at least)

I refuse to ever marry, have kids, or oofy doofy beta bux. Open to LTR though, if based upon mutual genuine attraction

LDAR isn't possible for me either

And to quote Rust Cohle, "I lack the constitution for suicide"

Gonna go indulge in some copes now, gotta keep my mind off this shit for the time being. I've exhausted this topic personally tbh. Won't have a substantive update till after talking to Ramieri

We might not all make it, but at least the bp can guide us in making realistic improvements to our lives. Cheers lads
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what the fuck are you talking about you do not need bimax its a side profile of the gods the reidall line is almost perfect
you need lip lift really bad the philtrum ruins it

the hair is cucking you pleae change hairstyle
hope on dutasteride

rhino and also fix the eyebrows they are too bushy clean them out
maybe dye everything black honestly

 

[Prøphet]

Funny you bumped this ancient thread because it’s completely inaccurate now

Come 2029 when I’m a fully licensed sparky and have 80k+ in the bank I’ll hit up Giant for the full face chaddification deluxe package

No point in coping with minimal improvement and seeing no irl difference

Mirin brother

 

[Acquiescence]

what the fuck are you talking about you do not need bimax its a side profile of the gods the reidall line is almost perfect
you need lip lift really bad the philtrum ruins it

I’m leaving the lower third question entirely to Giant. I’ve been told so many different potential procedures I don’t know what to believe anymore, and I’m too low IQ to parse it all out myself

Yes agree lip lift is needed badly but I better get whatever osteotomies / implants are needed in the region done with first and fully recovered from, so any consequent soft tissue changes can be assessed first before moving on to finishing touches

the hair is cucking you pleae change hairstyle
hope on dutasteride

What about the hair is cucking me?

These days irl I usually wear it significantly longer and have a curly fringe to cover up my forehead to fraud nw0

I’ve been on dut and oral min for almost 3 years now, maintaining nw2 with good density and will eventually get HT

rhino and also fix the eyebrows they are too bushy clean them out
maybe dye everything black honestly

What changes specifically do I need with a rhino?

Regardless once again I will have to wait until I’ve either ruled out for sure, or have actually done, any major osteotomies that could change the nose beforehand

Funny you mention the brows. It seems recently that more and more people are too. Rehab said something in his rating of me and even a girl irl jfl. Guess I’ll take it as a sign the oral min is doing its thing. But yet once again I need to wait until I resolve the low esr issue first because as it is the brows are probably helping mask the cyclops ism a bit

So tl;dr as of Feb 2026: I’m stuck until I can get the major bone and implant work done, with itself is stuck until I am in a place financially and career wise to spam surgeries and revisions etc

Yes it is over

 

[vermicel]

@Acquiescence just for fun :

trimax + rhino + fat grafting to the supras + saddled infra implants + fat grafting to the brow ridge (?) + lip lift + hairline lowering/forehead reduction (probably a superior option to a hair transplant, in this particular case) ... + eyebrow trimming

 

[Acquiescence]

@Acquiescence just for fun :

trimax + rhino + fat grafting to the supras + saddled infra implants + fat grafting to the brow ridge (?) + lip lift + hairline lowering/forehead reduction (probably a superior option to a hair transplant, in this particular case) ... + eyebrow trimming

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Preciate it G

One day, one day….

Just gotta keep on coping and seething till then

 

[Miniman333]

Just had it done. It’s incredibly low risk, provided you have an occuloplastic surgeon do it. You should be going to specialists for everything anyway.

could you pm results?

Nah go to Thailand. Ratantan. Or I went to Vanity clinic in Turkey. But the results are minimal want to ascend more. Just asked for undereyes though.

same as to you. You did eye grafting for your upper eyelids and it wasn't significant results? kiind of ropefuel ngl

 

[Wurzel]

@Acquiescence just for fun :

trimax + rhino + fat grafting to the supras + saddled infra implants + fat grafting to the brow ridge (?) + lip lift + hairline lowering/forehead reduction (probably a superior option to a hair transplant, in this particular case) ... + eyebrow trimming

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Damn how did you get this change results. who did the photoshop?

 

[Wurzel]

could you pm results?

same as to you. You did eye grafting for your upper eyelids and it wasn't significant results? kiind of ropefuel ngl

could you pm results?

same as to you. You did eye grafting for your upper eyelids and it wasn't significant results? kiind of ropefuel ngl

I dont have uee exposure at all like you. My scores for eyebrow/ uee area are optimal. My problem is with the maxilla so my undereyes are purple. SO improved that with undereye fat grafting. Was slight improvment. Expected more. But also started with the skin peptides we all know about. Maybe gonna do some laser treatment to reduce further if the peptides doesnt make it disappear completely even when tired. To summarize. "I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE TIRED BUT NOT LOOK TIRED AND LOOK LIKE SHIT, LIKE SOME PEOPLE CAN DO". It is made me less insecure about that. Because that got bad as I have aged just turned 24. Wasnt a problem when younger.
The doctor in Turkey recommended. Also fat grafting to maxilla region to make it look like I have better maxilla. And the ratantan clinic when I sent photos noticed other stuff I didnt even think about when sending photos. RECOMMENDING Like nasal labial fold region( not vibisble) just my upper lip slight to thick bc teeth protrusion. ALSO into the jaw area. Gonna do MSE so just wanted undereye fatgrafting for now.

 

[Wurzel]

@Acquiescence just for fun :

trimax + rhino + fat grafting to the supras + saddled infra implants + fat grafting to the brow ridge (?) + lip lift + hairline lowering/forehead reduction (probably a superior option to a hair transplant, in this particular case) ... + eyebrow trimming

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This is looking a little into uncanny valley. You need more support to help with round eyes not just change the skin.

 

[Miniman333]

I dont have uee exposure at all like you. My scores for eyebrow/ uee area are optimal. My problem is with the maxilla so my undereyes are purple. SO improved that with undereye fat grafting. Was slight improvment. Expected more. But also started with the skin peptides we all know about. Maybe gonna do some laser treatment to reduce further if the peptides doesnt make it disappear completely even when tired. To summarize. "I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE TIRED BUT NOT LOOK TIRED AND LOOK LIKE SHIT, LIKE SOME PEOPLE CAN DO". It is made me less insecure about that. Because that got bad as I have aged just turned 24. Wasnt a problem when younger.
The doctor in Turkey recommended. Also fat grafting to maxilla region to make it look like I have better maxilla. And the ratantan clinic when I sent photos noticed other stuff I didnt even think about when sending photos. RECOMMENDING Like nasal labial fold region( not vibisble) just my upper lip slight to thick bc teeth protrusion. ALSO into the jaw area. Gonna do MSE so just wanted undereye fatgrafting for now.

can you send results in dms? i was thinking about getting undereye grafting done in thailand but if the results are underwhelming i might reconsider so i don't have to spend another 2k

 

[Wurzel]

can you send results in dms? i was thinking about getting undereye grafting done in thailand but if the results are underwhelming i might reconsider so i don't have to spend another 2k

Bro 2k . Nothing more worth spending money than something you use every second of your life. Always got your face. Nigga I am a student and never had a real full time job and spent 6k last month. Got first collagen fillers for like 1.4k. In hope that could fix the problem. Improved it but not entirely. Its underwhelming in the sense that it is just skin bro. But it is better. But I was insecure of my darkness.