Finasteride risks

[YabadiDabado]

Genuinely speaking, don't actually "hop" on finasteride once you "hop" on you can't exactly just "hop" off there are numerable men with permanent erectile dysfunction. "Post finasteride syndrome" who would do anything to have never taken finasteride as long as their manhood worked



What's the point in having good-looking hair if your manhood is rendered invalid. These people are either trolling or they've never taken it, or they're some outliers.



Finasteride is a potent drug which plays with your hormone system and is basically turning you into an effeminate transgender how can taking such a thing be harmless? These people should look at their own words why are they promoting this?

 

[Orc]

you're not getting laid anyway if you're bald.

 

[Deleted member 19499]

I've been on it and have felt my depression worsen a bit, but being bald is even worse

 

[Deleted member 23239]

Psfs is a myth

 

[YabadiDabado]

you're not getting laid anyway if you're bald.

You're not getting laid at all if your manhood doesn't work, that's like getting permanent erectile dysfunction for a hair transplant

I've been on it and have felt my depression worsen a bit, but being bald is even worse

Some people have permanent side effects that never go away, becoming effeminate is just one

Psfs is a myth

Post finasteride syndrome* is actually a serious condition, are you trying to lessen competition?

 

[RichardSpencel]

If you have no hair,you have no life
Commit a suicide do a mass shooting cuz it’s ovah for u

 

[DR. NICKGA]

ok give use a another solution then

 

[Skywalker]

You're not getting laid at all if your manhood doesn't work, that's like getting permanent erectile dysfunction for a hair transplant

Some people have permanent side effects that never go away, becoming effeminate is just one

Post finasteride syndrome* is actually a serious condition, are you trying to lessen competition?

im getting ED recently and its 100% because of finasteride- should i just try topical fin or go to topical RU?

 

[robtical]

Not even the real risk. Real risk is it destroys the dimorphism of your sons

 

[Skywalker]

you're not getting laid anyway if you're bald.

 

[User49]

PFS = Schizophrenia

 

[YabadiDabado]

im getting ED recently and its 100% because of finasteride- should i just try topical fin or go to topical RU?

I don't know

 

[New Poster]

People fearmongering about fin should be hanged

 

[YabadiDabado]

Not even the real risk. Real risk is it destroys the dimorphism of your sons

Even if you stop it? And yes I know this (there was some celeb)

 

[TsarTsar444]

The Merck studies showed how only 1.5% of people experienced noticeable side effects. If you believe this then it never began. Even without PFS coming in the equation, almost everyone over the years ive spent on the internet would report having noticeably watery sperm even without other sides, so the 1.5% side effects profile is cageful e

 

[robtical]

Even if you stop it? And yes I know this (there was some celeb)

Yes it causes epigenetic degradation. This is why PFS(post finasteride syndrome) exist. Even realrob on lookism admitted from roids and fin, hpta never recovers

 

[robtical]

The Merck studies showed how only 1.5% of people experienced noticeable side effects. If you believe this then it never began. Even without PFS coming in the equation, almost everyone over the years ive spent on the internet would report having noticeably watery sperm even without other sides, so the 1.5% side effects profile is cageful e

People only talk about symptoms they feel and say nothing happened. While in reality you may never know what are the side effects.

 

[TsarTsar444]

People only talk about symptoms they feel and say nothing happened. While in reality you may never know what are the side effects.

Bro ive taken hundreds of medical histories from patients in medical school clinical rotations, its like a popular saying on this forum "women don't know what they want", this applies to the common man, eveb when they noticeable change in health and i ask them for changes they felt, they report feeling fine. Its a strange phenomena. But this is way higher for boomers. The Merk studies mostly included 30yo+ guys as well. Also PFS is much more complex then "lol i take fin for a month now and feel fine", it can activate months or years later even

 

[Deleted member 1140]

The Merck studies showed how only 1.5% of people experienced noticeable side effects. If you believe this then it never began. Even without PFS coming in the equation, almost everyone over the years ive spent on the internet would report having noticeably watery sperm even without other sides, so the 1.5% side effects profile is cageful e

ye its clearly faked

i dont believe in PFS but i believe around 70% get sides

 

[TsarTsar444]

ye its clearly faked

i dont believe in PFS but i believe around 70% get sides

PFS has proven much stronger evidence for me because of how many people who complained to me that they are super depressed anhedonic etc took Finasteride before these symptoms. I told them if they know about PFS and they were clueless. They were just prescribed Finasteride by a doctor. It eliminated the placebo theory for me. But even without this, scientifically fin has issues like on neurosteroids

 

[robtical]

Bro ive taken hundreds of medical histories from patients in medical school clinical rotations, its like a popular saying on this forum "women don't know what they want", this applies to the common man, eveb when they noticeable change in health and i ask them for changes they felt, they report feeling fine. Its a strange phenomena. But this is way higher for boomers. The Merk studies mostly included 30yo+ guys as well. Also PFS is much more complex then "lol i take fin for a month now and feel fine", it can activate months or years later even

Exactly. You may never realize symptom at all. You may have zero "symptom" but when u have a child, it is born with birth defect. the birth defect could be due to fin you have taken years ago and stopped. You are not going to connect the birth defect to fin. While reality could be it is due to fin and if you had not taken, your child woulda been born healthy. Not all symptoms can be stated because you never know what the alternative in control is. Who even is gonna do generational studies on fin take vs non fin taker.

 

[robtical]

PFS has proven much stronger evidence for me because of how many people who complained to me that they are super depressed anhedonic etc took Finasteride before these symptoms. I told them if they know about PFS and they were clueless. They were just prescribed Finasteride by a doctor. It eliminated the placebo theory for me. But even without this, scientifically fin has issues like on neurosteroids

Cant imagine what dut would do if fin is this strong. Dut has 5 weeks half life too.

 

[YabadiDabado]

Yes it causes epigenetic degradation. This is why PFS(post finasteride syndrome) exist. Even realrob on lookism admitted from roids and fin, hpta never recovers

Where grown men cried

 

[Deleted member 19865]

You're not getting laid at all if your manhood doesn't work, that's like getting permanent erectile dysfunction for a hair transplant

Some people have permanent side effects that never go away, becoming effeminate is just one

Post finasteride syndrome* is actually a serious condition, are you trying to lessen competition?

Better to not get laid while having no sex drive than to not get laid while having a sex drive. Even if you get post finasteride syndrome, you're still better off than if you haven't done anything.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Exactly. You may never realize anything symptom at all. You may have zero "symptom" while u have a child, it is born with birth defect. the birth defect could be due to fin you have taken years ago and stopped. You are not going to connect the birth defect to fin. While reality could be it is due to fin and if you had not taken, your child woulda been born healthy. Not all symptoms can be stated because you never know what the alternative in control is. Who even is gonna do generational studies on fin take vs non fin taker.

Finasteride can also cause the PFS symptoms commonly reported in a very gradual manor, for example in the spam of months or years the person can slowly get all the pfs symptoms, but because there was so much time passed by now, they have accustomed to their new state, having a pseudo amnesia of how happier and better they felt once, because the human brain is very good at coping either chronically through gradual neuro regulation or acutely via seratonin up taking causing the more famous PFS horror stories you hear.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Better to not get laid while having no sex drive than to not get laid while having a sex drive. Even if you get post finasteride syndrome, you're still better off than if you haven't done anything.

Kek if you get PFS, its not just about sex drive, thats just the minor aspect of it, it would be even fine if that was the worst thing to happen. You also get apathy and anhedonia, lessen pleasure for other stuff as well, skin becomes more pale, darker eye circles, skin gets more young looking and porcelain like etc.

 

[Deleted member 19865]

Kek if you get PFS, its not just about sex drive, thats just the minor aspect of it, it would be even fine if that was the worst thing to happen. You also get apathy and anhedonia, lessen pleasure for other stuff as well, skin becomes more pale, darker eye circles, skin gets more young looking and porcelain like etc.

Okay that's not worth it then. I just always here dudes complaining about "muh sex drive" as if it's a bad thing.

I literally take drugs to lower my sex drive so I don't have to deal with that distracting burden of irrationality.

 

[TsarTsar444]

People only talk about symptoms they feel and say nothing happened. While in reality you may never know what are the side effects.

I'm deeply disturbed of the possibility that Finasteride being connected to epigenetic changes, the worst case that could happen. It would mean a curring yourself would take a miracle. Im deeply disturbed because i once had PFS like syndrom from severe adrenal fatigue after stopping corticosteroid medication, it was the worst thing i ever experienced, thank God it went away, and now feel deep empathy for people who have PFS

 

[TsarTsar444]

Okay that's not worth it then. I just always here dudes complaining about "muh sex drive" as if it's a bad thing.

I literally take drugs to lower my sex drive so I don't have to deal with that distracting burden of irrationality.

Jfl yeah, just having no sex drive is my default when im on ADHD medication, I literally don't care, i use my time for other stuff and get pleasure, but imagine if fin taked all this pleasure away or minimizes it greatly

 

[Saint Casanova]

I'm deeply disturbed of the possibility that Finasteride being connected to epigenetic changes, the worst case that could happen. It would mean a curring yourself would take a miracle. Im deeply disturbed because i once had PFS like syndrom from severe adrenal fatigue after stopping corticosteroid medication, it was the worst thing i ever experienced, thank God it went away, and now feel deep empathy for people who have PFS

There is no biological mechanism of action that changes gene expression from taking a DHT blocker post puberty. PFS is a myth and will always be a myth until conclusive evidence comes out, not just anecdotal ones.

That being said, you should ALWAYS store your sperm if you plan on having kids before ever taking any roids, Fin ect. That way, if something is wrong you can use IVF and select the healthy sperm with no dna fragmentation.

 

[Mio]

Bro ive taken hundreds of medical histories from patients in medical school clinical rotations, its like a popular saying on this forum "women don't know what they want", this applies to the common man, eveb when they noticeable change in health and i ask them for changes they felt, they report feeling fine. Its a strange phenomena. But this is way higher for boomers. The Merk studies mostly included 30yo+ guys as well. Also PFS is much more complex then "lol i take fin for a month now and feel fine", it can activate months or years later even

yeah a lot of those people simply haven't been taking it long enough or the side effects havent been that severe yet, i've heard stories of people getting pfs after 10 years

 

[robtical]

Finasteride can also cause the PFS symptoms commonly reported in a very gradual manor, for example in the spam of months or years the person can slowly get all the pfs symptoms, but because there was so much time passed by now, they have accustomed to their new state, having a pseudo amnesia of how happier and better they felt once, because the human brain is very good at coping either chronically through gradual neuro regulation or acutely via seratonin up taking causing the more famous PFS horror stories you hear.

Yes i am aware. just because today you dont get it does not mean tomorrow you wont. Yes, they may not even realize the symptoms at all. Through adjusting to new baseline like u said or not knowing its a symptom at all. Not all are known anyways

 

[MoggerGaston]

no point in having a functional dick when you are bald

 

[Splinter901]

ED is a lot milder than balding

 

[TsarTsar444]

There is no biological mechanism of action that changes gene expression from taking a DHT blocker post puberty. PFS is a myth and will always be a myth until conclusive evidence comes out, not just anecdotal ones.

That being said, you should ALWAYS store your sperm if you plan on having kids before ever taking any roids, Fin ect. That way, if something is wrong you can use IVF and select the healthy sperm with no dna fragmentation.

You are right, there isn't a known mechanism for gene expression changed by blocking the 5ar enzyme, but it doesn't mean for sure it won't be discovered some day.

My theory on PFS is some disbalance it causes to the HPA axis, and ensuing neurosteroid production. But why would stopping it not reverse this with time is wierd and makes me think that some placebo is also at place

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Turned Hasan Piker from a bad boy high T turk fuckng pornstars in to an impotent crying cuck.

 

[robtical]

There is no biological mechanism of action that changes gene expression from taking a DHT blocker post puberty. PFS is a myth and will always be a myth until conclusive evidence comes out, not just anecdotal ones.

That being said, you should ALWAYS store your sperm if you plan on having kids before ever taking any roids, Fin ect. That way, if something is wrong you can use IVF and select the healthy sperm with no dna fragmentation.

As if pharma will ever be transparent about life destroying side effects.

 

[Saint Casanova]

As if pharma will ever be transparent about life destroying side effects.

Same can be said for any single drug that you take. Are you going to stop taking aspirin when in pain? Not all studies are pharma backed btw. Either way there is no biological, scientific way that we know of that can change gene expression by taking DHT blockers.

And if these claims are true, what are norwooders supposed to do ? Hair transplants require you to take fin afterwards.

 

[Baldingman1998]

The Merck studies showed how only 1.5% of people experienced noticeable side effects. If you believe this then it never began. Even without PFS coming in the equation, almost everyone over the years ive spent on the internet would report having noticeably watery sperm even without other sides, so the 1.5% side effects profile is cageful e

The brain 100% feels different and somehow it(finasteride) leads to a higher chance of getting a penile fracture.

 

[Saint Casanova]

You are right, there isn't a known mechanism for gene expression changed by blocking the 5ar enzyme, but it doesn't mean for sure it won't be discovered some day.

My theory on PFS is some disbalance it causes to the HPA axis, and ensuing neurosteroid production. But why would stopping it not reverse this with time is wierd and makes me think that some placebo is also at place

Yeah exactly, if we look at steroids that have a positive effect of mood and Neurosteroid production like DHT derivatives, everyone returns to baseline once they get if it. Why won’t it be the same if we reduce DHT?

 

[robtical]

Same can be said for any single drug that you take. Are you going to stop taking aspirin when in pain? Not all studies are pharma backed btw. Either way there is no biological, scientific way that we know of that can change gene expression by taking DHT blockers.

And if these claims are true, what are norwooders supposed to do ? Hair transplants require you to take fin afterwards.

Only option is hair patch maybe. Yes same can be said for any drug. I do not take drugs. I just don't want fin people be in denial about side effects, muh it didnt happen. It just encourages more people to take it. There are people who would accept balding if the alternative is side effects with hair also not possibly coming back.

 

[Oueyy]

Exactly. You may never realize symptom at all. You may have zero "symptom" but when u have a child, it is born with birth defect. the birth defect could be due to fin you have taken years ago and stopped. You are not going to connect the birth defect to fin. While reality could be it is due to fin and if you had not taken, your child woulda been born healthy. Not all symptoms can be stated because you never know what the alternative in control is. Who even is gonna do generational studies on fin take vs non fin taker.

All this bullshit is full of suppositions, millions of men have taken this medicine and got childs. Being a bald clown is far worse than any side effect and I can guarantee you that once you turn bald you'll never see any pussy again (except if you pay for it).

 

[robtical]

All this bullshit is full of suppositions, millions of men have taken this medicine and got childs. Being a bald clown is far worse than any side effect and I can guarantee you that once you turn bald you'll never see any pussy again (except if you pay for it).

No one is denying you cannot have child if you take fin. Your children dimorphism will be destroyed. Most son's of dad who took finastride are less robust than the mother.

This has been discussed on lookism already. With pro steroids/testosterone theory realrob also stating hpta never recovers.

 

[Oueyy]

No one is denying you cannot have child if you take fin. Your children dimorphism will be destroyed. Most son's of dad who took finastride are less robust than the mother.

Proof or tales.

 

[robtical]

Proof or tales.

I cannot access lookism threads. There were so many examples of bodybuilder and people taking fin. All the sons were less dimorphic and height mogged by mum too in most of cases. Just find people who took finasteride before having children. Look at their sons. Compare them to the mum/dad. You will have the answer.

 

[Johanjohan]

you're not getting laid anyway if you're bald.

Yet I see baldcels with girlfriends

 

[YabadiDabado]

Better to not get laid while having no sex drive than to not get laid while having a sex drive. Even if you get post finasteride syndrome, you're still better off than if you haven't done anything.

Nope

 

[Eren]

You're not getting laid at all if your manhood doesn't work, that's like getting permanent erectile dysfunction for a hair transplant

Some people have permanent side effects that never go away, becoming effeminate is just one

Post finasteride syndrome* is actually a serious condition, are you trying to lessen competition?

having Post finasteride syndrome = being an untermensch

 

[WayneBraaaah]

FIN is life

 

[ropemax]

It honestly amazes me how people downplay the risks because of a sponsored study. The idea that you will be completely fine after nuking your hormonal balance and inhibiting neurosteroids is a pretty bizarre one to believe. It's a tradeoff