first cycle advice needed

[Sub5atbest]

If im running HCG alongside my test during my cycle should i just keep running it for a couple half lives after the cycle instead of using serms as a pct, i see a lot of conflicting views on PCT in general, and the HAARLEM study also showed negligible difference between people who pct and those who didnt.

 

[ICL]

If im running HCG alongside my test during my cycle should i just keep running it for a couple half lives after the cycle instead of using serms as a pct, i see a lot of conflicting views on PCT in general, and the HAARLEM study also showed negligible difference between people who pct and those who didnt.

if you run hcg with test you will recover
but pct would speed it up, by jumpstarting recovery



Its all dependent on how much you run. If you undergo trt for 2 years you cant just hop off and expect it to recover with pct [including hccg/hmg]

 

[Sub5atbest]

if you run hcg with test you will recover
but pct would speed it up, by jumpstarting recovery



Its all dependent on how much you run. If you undergo trt for 2 years you cant just hop off and expect it to recover with pct [including hccg/hmg]

250mg per week test, 250 IU HCG eod

 

[Sub5atbest]

250mg per week test, 250 IU HCG eod

16 week cycle

 

[ICL]

250mg per week test, 250 IU HCG eod

Bruh this test dose is not sufficient. Anything else?

 

[Sub5atbest]

Bruh this test dose is not sufficient. Anything else?

not sufficient for what?

 

[Sub5atbest]

Bruh this test dose is not sufficient. Anything else?

was thinking of getting MK too

 

[tryingtomog475693]

Bruh this test dose is not sufficient. Anything else?

Elaborate

 

[tryingtomog475693]

was thinking of getting MK too

I took mk it’s not worth it for gymcelling but grew my zygos a tad

 

[Sub5atbest]

I took mk it’s not worth it for gymcelling but grew my zygos a tad

i was hoping for a small amount of bone gains tbh i mostly wanna take mk for appetite and sleep so im running a low amount

 

[tryingtomog475693]

i was hoping for a small amount of bone gains tbh i mostly wanna take mk for appetite and sleep so im running a low amount

Yeah, I finished my first bottle of 750mg with a dose of 12.5mg ed which is 2 months worth and I seen noticeable growth, such an over-hated compound

 

[ICL]

Elaborate

Too low to do anything considerable
500mg the way. Especially for a cycle
People literally have used 200mg for TRT and you are using a tad higher for a cycle?

I took mk it’s not worth it for gymcelling but grew my zygos a tad

It hypertrophied your buccinator muscle

 

[ICL]

not sufficient for what?

Its too low dose for a cycle

was thinking of getting MK too

Yes thats a good cheap option

 

[tryingtomog475693]

Too low to do anything considerable
500mg the way. Especially for a cycle
People literally have used 200mg for TRT and you are using a tad higher for a cycle?


It hypertrophied your buccinator muscle

Ah makes sense, but can 500mg of test lower the chances of getting your natural production back when pct’ing rather than if u were to do 250mg

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

If im running HCG alongside my test during my cycle should i just keep running it for a couple half lives after the cycle instead of using serms as a pct, i see a lot of conflicting views on PCT in general, and the HAARLEM study also showed negligible difference between people who pct and those who didnt.

Yes keep runnign it for a while

 

[ICL]

Ah makes sense, but can 500mg of test lower the chances of getting your natural production back when pct’ing rather than if u were to do 250mg

Yes it would suppress your lh/fsh that produce the testosterone. But pct anchillaries [like clomid for example] restore both of those fairly quickly [about like 3 months, but without pct it can take upto a year]

However we need to adress the HPT axis [your testicles] which are technically more suppressed. for refrence:

 

[Sub5atbest]

Yes it would suppress your lh/fsh that produce the testosterone. But pct anchillaries [like clomid for example] restore both of those fairly quickly [about like 3 months, but without pct it can take upto a year]

However we need to adress the HPT axis [your testicles] which are technically more suppressed. for refrence:

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how long you think i should run PCT, im getting clomid and nolva

 

[ICL]

how long you think i should run PCT, im getting clomid and nolva

Just look at bloods and see what happens
Usually you can run it for a month or 2

 

[sanguine]

250mg per week test, 250 IU HCG eod

Raise the test. hcg isn’t needed until the last few weeks of your cycle if you plant to do pct. Doing it the whole time is just wasting money. Also you lose all your gains with pct. Might as well just stay natty with this stack