First cycle advice (testosterone/ 20M)

[maxx92765]

Hi I’m 20 years old and am hopping on 250-300mg test enth weekly
I got my baseline blood work which is: testosterone-352ng/dl and my Estradiol is 31 (gross)
The AI I ordered is aromasin, I’m mostly looking for advice on using that and also hcg since I didn’t order any of that but I know I will need some

 

[duromaxxing]

@chadisbeingmade any advice ?

 

[Tatarforas]

250 to 300 mg is basically trt if you wanna grow muscle mass pin 250mg 2x a week for 500mg and lean bulk

 

[maxx92765]

250 to 300 mg is basically trt if you wanna grow muscle mass pin 250mg 2x a week for 500mg and lean bulk

Im planning on doing trt tbh

 

[Tatarforas]

Im planning on doing trt tbh

you can totally do that after your cycle but doing 250-300mg isnt a real cycle

 

[maxx92765]

you can totally do that after your cycle but doing 250-300mg isnt a real cycle

you reccomend i start high? most people say start LOW

 

[Tatarforas]

you reccomend i start high? most people say start LOW

500mg split in 2 pins a week is not high it's a pretty normal dose due to the fact side effects arent that much worse but gains are better

 

[Etson]

Get a blood test before starting to know your baseline and current natural bottlenecks.

Keep an eye on your Hematocrit and Hemoglobin, Testosterone thickens the blood. Your dosage will likely put you at 1500-2000+ ng/dL

• Testosterone: 9.9 nmol/L (285ng)
• Estradiol (E2): 114 pmol/L (~31 pg/mL)
• SHBG: 19 nmol/L
• LH: 1.8 IU/L
• Thyroid (TSH): 2.01 mIU/L
• FSH: 1.5 IU/L
• Estradiol (E2): 114 pmol/L
• Prolactin: 10.8 µg/L
• TSH: 2.01 mIU/L
• Glucose (fasted): 4.9 mmol/L
• PSA: 0.4 µg/L

CBC (blood counts)

• WBC: 6.5 × 10⁹/L
• RBC: 5.12 × 10¹²/L
• Hemoglobin: 149 g/L
• Hematocrit: 0.44 L/L
• MCV: 86 fL
• MCHC: 340 g/L
• Platelets: 236 × 10⁹/L
• Neutrophils: 4.0 × 10⁹/L
• Lymphocytes: 1.8 × 10⁹/L
• Vitamin B12: 441 pmol/L
• Albumin: 46 g/L

Your biggest concern will be Estrogen. Testosterone aromatizes to estradiol which could give you gyno.

Do NOT take an AI preventively, only respond if your E rises too much and your symptoms show. If your E2 rises then take a low-dose AI. (anastrozole 0.25-0.5mg once a week).

IF you are Cycling, prepare your PCT with Enclo or Clomid.
IF you are perma-staying on T you can cycle hCG, you stay exogenous forever and add hCG periodically to prevent testicular atrophy, keeping your sperm production on, and cycle 250-500 IU 2-3x per week 12 weeks on 12 weeks off.

 

[maxx92765]

Get a blood test before starting to know your baseline and current natural bottlenecks.

Keep an eye on your Hematocrit and Hemoglobin, Testosterone thickens the blood. Your dosage will likely put you at 1500-2000+ ng/dL

• Testosterone: 9.9 nmol/L (285ng)
• Estradiol (E2): 114 pmol/L (~31 pg/mL)
• SHBG: 19 nmol/L
• LH: 1.8 IU/L
• Thyroid (TSH): 2.01 mIU/L
• FSH: 1.5 IU/L
• Estradiol (E2): 114 pmol/L
• Prolactin: 10.8 µg/L
• TSH: 2.01 mIU/L
• Glucose (fasted): 4.9 mmol/L
• PSA: 0.4 µg/L

CBC (blood counts)

• WBC: 6.5 × 10⁹/L
• RBC: 5.12 × 10¹²/L
• Hemoglobin: 149 g/L
• Hematocrit: 0.44 L/L
• MCV: 86 fL
• MCHC: 340 g/L
• Platelets: 236 × 10⁹/L
• Neutrophils: 4.0 × 10⁹/L
• Lymphocytes: 1.8 × 10⁹/L
• Vitamin B12: 441 pmol/L
• Albumin: 46 g/L

Your biggest concern will be Estrogen. Testosterone aromatizes to estradiol which could give you gyno.

Do NOT take an AI preventively, only respond if your E rises too much and your symptoms show. If your E2 rises then take a low-dose AI. (anastrozole 0.25-0.5mg once a week).

IF you are Cycling, prepare your PCT with Enclo or Clomid.
IF you are perma-staying on T you can cycle hCG, you stay exogenous forever and add hCG periodically to prevent testicular atrophy, keeping your sperm production on, and cycle 250-500 IU 2-3x per week 12 weeks on 12 weeks off.

i did get my bloodwork done do u see it on my post?

 

[Etson]

i did get my bloodwork done do u see it on my post?

Your E is within normal range you do not want to suppress it too much you'll have horrible side effects with low E (they are brutal)

Your T is your ceiling, just like mine. Most likely the reason you had a hard time putting on muscle.

Did you get your lipids done and your Hemoglobin?

 

[maxx92765]

Your E is within normal range you do not want to suppress it too much you'll have horrible side effects with low E (they are brutal)

Your T is your ceiling, just like mine. Most likely the reason you had a hard time putting on muscle.

Did you get your lipids done and your Hemoglobin?

 

[Etson]

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Your T and Free T are both Low for your age. You have slightly elevated Cholesterol which is common in men with low T. Low testosterone usually leads to worse lipid profiles

Hemoglobin A1c: 5.5% is good
Estradiol is 31 and anything below 39 pg/mL is normal for males.

Your baseline for Hematocrit/Hemoglobin) is 44.4% which allows you room for your blood to thicken, but 250mg of T will likely thicken it significantly.

So if it becomes greater than 50-54% you will have a increased risk of blood clots or heart issues. You'll need to adjust your dosage and do a blood donation or stop the T. So just make sure you watch this as you cycle. Check at 3-6 months, then 6-12 months, and annually once it's all stable.

After 4-8 weeks of your Testosterone dosage go get your E check and feel your nipples to make sure you don't have any tenderness or sensitivity, cause that'll be a sign of E rising too much.

 

[maxx92765]

Your T and Free T are both Low for your age. You have slightly elevated Cholesterol which is common in men with low T. Low testosterone usually leads to worse lipid profiles

Hemoglobin A1c: 5.5% is good
Estradiol is 31 and anything below 39 pg/mL is normal for males.

Your baseline for Hematocrit/Hemoglobin) is 44.4% which allows you room for your blood to thicken, but 250mg of T will likely thicken it significantly.

So if it becomes greater than 50-54% you will have a increased risk of blood clots or heart issues. You'll need to adjust your dosage and do a blood donation or stop the T. So just make sure you watch this as you cycle. Check at 3-6 months, then 6-12 months, and annually once it's all stable.

After 4-8 weeks of your Testosterone dosage go get your E check and feel your nipples to make sure you don't have any tenderness or sensitivity, cause that'll be a sign of E rising too much.

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