First cycle advice

[st0rmy]

I want to do my first cycle at 18, I have been pondering getting on sarms, reta, etc since I was 16 but that all seems pointless given the side effects and minimal benefit. So I am going to just bite the bullet and do a test cycle. I am basing my cycle on this BOTB thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/first-steroid-cycle.10771/

If you dont want to read it, he reccomends a 12-15 week cycle of 500 mgs of Test E dosed twice weekly, aromasin as an AI, then a 6 week PCT consisting of nolvadex.

However, I need some advice that isnt included in that thread:

1: I cannot do a full 12-14 week cycle. Even if I were to start today, I am going on vaction in late March for a week, and theres no way for me to bring the stuff with me. Would it crash my test if I were to take a week off? Not to mention that I am incredibly broke right now (£50 in my account ) so I am going to need to get a job in order to finance this. So all things considered I would realistically start the cycle mid Feburary, would it be better to just wait until after my trip when I have money and can do the full cycle?

2: Adding in reta / a GLP agonist. I want to stay lean over the course of the cycle, and would even ideally like to get leaner. I know that the typical advice is to bulk when doing Test in order to maximise gains, but I got fucked over with my fat distribution genetics and unless im sub ~17% BF my face is chubby. (Currently about 75 kgs lean at 6'2) Should I just charge the bulk and accept getting no girls for 12 weeks, or add in a GLP agonist and cut?

3: Is it even worth me doing a cycle? I have a pretty good physique, ive been working out since I was 15 and get compliments on it. I obviously dont want to fuck my hormones up for life (which I know wont happen if I do proper PCT, etc). Im willing to accept those risks if it will have a big positive effect on my looks and physique, but if it wont then a cycle might not be worth it, at least not until im a bit older.

Thanks for reading, I know that these are probably stupid questions, but I have never really ventured into anabolics so forgive my lack of knowledge on the topic. Ill do my best to follow any advice, and will post results if I go through with it.

 

[BR32]

If you can't do a full cycle ideally 14-16 weeks you shouldn't take gear.

Just wait until after you trip

you want to start lean on anabolics so cut before you start.

Don't do gear if you don't want to commit to using hormones long term.

 

[heinz_guderian]

whats ur goal during the cycle?

 

[st0rmy]

If you can't do a full cycle ideally 14-16 weeks you shouldn't take gear.

Just wait until after you trip

you want to start lean on anabolics so cut before you start.

Don't do gear if you don't want to commit to using hormones long term.

Thanks bro. Would you recommend me doing a reta cycle before the trip, then doing the full cycle after? That way I could start lean and clean bulk over the course of the cycle.

 

[st0rmy]

whats ur goal during the cycle?

Just want to get bigger and more aesthetic icl. I don't really care about strength or health

 

[IncelelstialBeing]

Well, you want to be in the gym prior to starting your cycle to load up your tendons, if you start going to gym untrained and on roids your muscles will outpace your tendons, and if you lift to heavy you can snap em

Do not do the cycle if it is too short and you don't have time for the recovery phase. EVER

The botb thread is quite dated (2019) people are now saying 300mg is better for your first cycle, I would only use test for my first cycle to study how my (your) body responds to androgens.

 

[angle]

I want to do my first cycle at 18, I have been pondering getting on sarms, reta, etc since I was 16 but that all seems pointless given the side effects and minimal benefit. So I am going to just bite the bullet and do a test cycle. I am basing my cycle on this BOTB thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/first-steroid-cycle.10771/

If you dont want to read it, he reccomends a 12-15 week cycle of 500 mgs of Test E dosed twice weekly, aromasin as an AI, then a 6 week PCT consisting of nolvadex.

However, I need some advice that isnt included in that thread:

1: I cannot do a full 12-14 week cycle. Even if I were to start today, I am going on vaction in late March for a week, and theres no way for me to bring the stuff with me. Would it crash my test if I were to take a week off? Not to mention that I am incredibly broke right now (£50 in my account ) so I am going to need to get a job in order to finance this. So all things considered I would realistically start the cycle mid Feburary, would it be better to just wait until after my trip when I have money and can do the full cycle?

2: Adding in reta / a GLP agonist. I want to stay lean over the course of the cycle, and would even ideally like to get leaner. I know that the typical advice is to bulk when doing Test in order to maximise gains, but I got fucked over with my fat distribution genetics and unless im sub ~17% BF my face is chubby. (Currently about 75 kgs lean at 6'2) Should I just charge the bulk and accept getting no girls for 12 weeks, or add in a GLP agonist and cut?

3: Is it even worth me doing a cycle? I have a pretty good physique, ive been working out since I was 15 and get compliments on it. I obviously dont want to fuck my hormones up for life (which I know wont happen if I do proper PCT, etc). Im willing to accept those risks if it will have a big positive effect on my looks and physique, but if it wont then a cycle might not be worth it, at least not until im a bit older.

Thanks for reading, I know that these are probably stupid questions, but I have never really ventured into anabolics so forgive my lack of knowledge on the topic. Ill do my best to follow any advice, and will post results if I go through with it.

js do test 200, average begginer cycle

 

[nsabi67]

You need 4-5 halflives of your longest ester before starting pct keep that in mind

 

[Vulcan57]

You need 4-5 halflives of your longest ester before starting pct keep that in mind

That seems pretty long. For test c that would be 4+ weeks. I've heard that for test c you should wait 2 weeks then start pct. What is the best time to wait for test c and why?

 

[Vulcan57]

I want to do my first cycle at 18, I have been pondering getting on sarms, reta, etc since I was 16 but that all seems pointless given the side effects and minimal benefit. So I am going to just bite the bullet and do a test cycle. I am basing my cycle on this BOTB thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/first-steroid-cycle.10771/

If you dont want to read it, he reccomends a 12-15 week cycle of 500 mgs of Test E dosed twice weekly, aromasin as an AI, then a 6 week PCT consisting of nolvadex.

However, I need some advice that isnt included in that thread:

1: I cannot do a full 12-14 week cycle. Even if I were to start today, I am going on vaction in late March for a week, and theres no way for me to bring the stuff with me. Would it crash my test if I were to take a week off? Not to mention that I am incredibly broke right now (£50 in my account ) so I am going to need to get a job in order to finance this. So all things considered I would realistically start the cycle mid Feburary, would it be better to just wait until after my trip when I have money and can do the full cycle?

2: Adding in reta / a GLP agonist. I want to stay lean over the course of the cycle, and would even ideally like to get leaner. I know that the typical advice is to bulk when doing Test in order to maximise gains, but I got fucked over with my fat distribution genetics and unless im sub ~17% BF my face is chubby. (Currently about 75 kgs lean at 6'2) Should I just charge the bulk and accept getting no girls for 12 weeks, or add in a GLP agonist and cut?

3: Is it even worth me doing a cycle? I have a pretty good physique, ive been working out since I was 15 and get compliments on it. I obviously dont want to fuck my hormones up for life (which I know wont happen if I do proper PCT, etc). Im willing to accept those risks if it will have a big positive effect on my looks and physique, but if it wont then a cycle might not be worth it, at least not until im a bit older.

Thanks for reading, I know that these are probably stupid questions, but I have never really ventured into anabolics so forgive my lack of knowledge on the topic. Ill do my best to follow any advice, and will post results if I go through with it.

You don't have the money to do a cycle yet, wait until you can do the full thing. Reta is nice and being lean before a cycle is ideal. You would need a lot of discipline or maybe mk-677 in order to eat enough on a cycle while on reta, I get crazy appetite suppression from it.

 

[nsabi67]

That seems pretty long. For test c that would be 4+ weeks. I've heard that for test c you should wait 2 weeks then start pct. What is the best time to wait for test c and why?

After 4-5 halflives the compound is out of your system

If you start pct any sooner it’s not gonna be effective

 

[good_king_alex]

If you can't do a full cycle ideally 14-16 weeks you shouldn't take gear.

Just wait until after you trip

you want to start lean on anabolics so cut before you start.

Don't do gear if you don't want to commit to using hormones long term.

By gear do you mean Tren n stuff, or test?

 

[Vulcan57]

By gear do you mean Tren n stuff, or test?

you're not ready lol. gear means steroids

 

[st0rmy]

You don't have the money to do a cycle yet, wait until you can do the full thing. Reta is nice and being lean before a cycle is ideal. You would need a lot of discipline or maybe mk-677 in order to eat enough on a cycle while on reta, I get crazy appetite suppression from it.

Good advice, thanks. Yeah, my current plan is to do reta until my trip, then do the cycle while off reta, then maybe get back on to stay lean for the summer. I haven’t done reta yet but my appetite is absolutely insane, I hope that the effects are as strong as you say