First Cycle Rate - Anavar and Clomid

[CatsKindaMog]

I wanna run this to get some muscle and get a feel for synthetic androgens. I got a mate who ran anavar for 4 weeks at 30mg, then later went down to 20. He ran it solo and did no PCT. Im gonna try to be 100x smarter than that however cuz hes retarded.

Iv trained for nearly 3 years, benched 105KG at 16yr old completely natty. Since then, I have tried mk677 but after a week I stopped cuz that shit gave me insomnia lol plus it was a dogshit compound Fr. My diet is locked in and im eating 260g of protien every day, training hard and consistently, and always sleeping 8 hours a night. I only drink 2-3 times a year. Im locked into the gym. But want to go further.

This is the cycle:
Pre-Cycle leadup (1 week):
Clomid 12.5mg daily - bring natty test up to have a good starting point
Oral BPC-157 1mg daily
The Cycle (3-5 weeks):
Anavar 20mg daily, will increase to 30 if well tolerated
Clomid 12.5mg daily - maintain natty test and fertility on top of the anavar for health and gains
Oral BPC-157 1mg daily
Post Cycle (4 weeks):
Clomid: 2 weeks 20mg daily, 1 week 12.5mg daily, 1 week 5mg daily, OFF
BPC-157 1mg daily

Additional Supplements:
Caffeine - as needed, great stuff
Creatine - 5g daily
Vitamin D3
Vitamin K2
Wellman supplement - tons of great stuff like zinc, magnesium, multivitamin, L-Carnatine, etc
Fish oil
Liver support - only on cycle
Ashwaganda
P5P


Why Anavar?:
Easily available, cheap, one of the milder steroids, does not give insane roid rage comapred to other options like dbol, extremely well researched. Theres tons more reasons too, read this shit:
The Most Underrated Pubertymaxxing Compound - Anavar

Why Clomid over Enclomaphine?:
They are both great, enclo will boost test more per mg than clomid will but it suppresses estrogen pretty hard which fucks your joints and libido, as well as some muscle building potential being lost, and general feeling like shit. Also growth plate early closure is not ideal for me.

Why did I 'ween' myself of Clomid?:
To prevent estrogen rebound the second I come off so hormones are as stable as possible.

Why include oral BPC-157?:
Iv got shin splints at the moment and play competitive Rugby. This injury is making me miss training sessions and I need something to help heal faster on top of the anavar. I did oral because its easier but may consider pinning if it does fuck all.

Anyways yeah rate pls.

 

[Cyrus]

shit
get test base

 

[Jun Oda]

replace clomid w enclo aanda you haave a very good beginner cycle. dont expect too much muscle but your collagen and libido will be relly high, thing with anavar is it helps u lift way more than u normaally do, so if u take anavr aand dont do much it wont help for muscle growth, its not like test where u blst it and just sit around u gaain muscle

 

[jampiee]

no test base lol

 

[CSS]

can you send me a link where you will get anavar?

 

[asdvek]

Retarded af

 

[mangacel]

DBoln does not give roid rage

 

[CatsKindaMog]

DBoln does not give roid rage

Yes it fucking does lad

 

[CatsKindaMog]

Retarded af

explain

 

[CatsKindaMog]

replace clomid w enclo aanda you haave a very good beginner cycle. dont expect too much muscle but your collagen and libido will be relly high, thing with anavar is it helps u lift way more than u normaally do, so if u take anavr aand dont do much it wont help for muscle growth, its not like test where u blst it and just sit around u gaain muscle

I litro explained why I believe clomid is superior in my case here. How is enclo better?

 

[CatsKindaMog]

no test base lol

Yeah I love working testicles

 

[Jun Oda]

I litro explained why I believe clomid is superior in my case here. How is enclo better?

Your explanation is wrong

 

[Deleted member 67663]

Roiding sucks imo, just eat natural test foods and be healthy

 

[CatsKindaMog]

Your explanation is wrong

Enclo stops estrogen binding to the receptor, blocking its effect. fucking your growth plates, dick function, etc. Explain how im wrong.

 

[Jun Oda]

Enclo stops estrogen binding to the receptor, blocking its effect. fucking your growth plates, dick function, etc. Explain how im wrong.

I can write an essay but can't be bothered to. All I can say is your reasoning is not comprehensive and has a shallow understanding of how it increases lh and how it modulates estrogen

 

[mangacel]

Yes it fucking does lad

I Use 40 pwo, around 5 times a week and no roid rage

 

[Postmort3m]

Oh brother trust me ppl that do roids and study on them tell to just do test injecting have more results and "less" problems then orals

 

[CatsKindaMog]

Oh brother trust me ppl that do roids and study on them tell to just do test injecting have more results and "less" problems then orals

bruh my livers gonna be fine I dont drink and il take liver support. Also its a short cycle so im not gonna get raped. I wanted to either clomid or enclo as a test base but idk if they are strong enough. I was hoping my natural test wont fuck up cuz im young.

 

[CatsKindaMog]

I can write an essay but can't be bothered to. All I can say is your reasoning is not comprehensive and has a shallow understanding of how it increases lh and how it modulates estrogen

Enclo is the active ingredient in clomid, clomid just has a synthetic estrogen attached so your estrogen is slightly higher temporarily which imo is better than too low estrogen for any amount of time during developmental years.

 

[Charisma]

I don’t even know where to start with this absolute disaster of a "cycle." You talk a big game about being "100x smarter" than your friend, yet you’re planning a cycle that has zero test base, an outdated SERM as your crutch, and enough over-the-counter nonsense to make a supplement store jealous. Anavar solo is already a terrible idea—it's suppressive, your natural testosterone will tank, and Clomid isn’t a magic wand to "maintain natty test" while you’re actively shutting yourself down. Clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator, not a testosterone booster, and using it on cycle is just asking for hormonal whiplash. The fact that you think 12.5mg of Clomid is somehow going to counteract HPTA suppression from exogenous androgens shows that you barely understand how this stuff works.

Then there’s the sheer delusion of your expectations. You’ve been training for three years and benching 105kg at 16, which, sure, is solid, but clearly, you plateaued somewhere and think popping Anavar is the answer. It’s not. Without a test base, you’re setting yourself up for lethargy, zero libido, and gains that will disappear the second you come off. You don’t even seem to understand why people use a testosterone base in the first place—it’s not just about "bigger numbers"; it’s about not feeling like absolute garbage while you're suppressing your natural production. Saying, "My natural test won’t fuck up ‘cuz I’m young" is laughably naive. HPTA suppression doesn’t care how young you are; it will hit you the same, and without proper exogenous support, your recovery is going to be a painful, drawn-out process.

And let’s not even get started on the mental gymnastics you’re doing with your PCT plan. You “ween” yourself off Clomid? What does that even mean? You’re stretching out a four-week PCT with laughably low doses like you’re microdosing yourself back to homeostasis. That’s not how this works. Post-cycle therapy is about aggressive recovery, not this slow, drawn-out nonsense. If you actually bothered to do real research instead of half-baked bro-science, you’d know that properly structured cycles include a clear plan for suppression management, not whatever mess this is. At this point, the best cycle advice you could get is to not touch anything until you actually understand basic endocrinology.

 

[Charisma]

I don’t even know where to start with this absolute disaster of a "cycle." You talk a big game about being "100x smarter" than your friend, yet you’re planning a cycle that has zero test base, an outdated SERM as your crutch, and enough over-the-counter nonsense to make a supplement store jealous. Anavar solo is already a terrible idea—it's suppressive, your natural testosterone will tank, and Clomid isn’t a magic wand to "maintain natty test" while you’re actively shutting yourself down. Clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator, not a testosterone booster, and using it on cycle is just asking for hormonal whiplash. The fact that you think 12.5mg of Clomid is somehow going to counteract HPTA suppression from exogenous androgens shows that you barely understand how this stuff works.

Then there’s the sheer delusion of your expectations. You’ve been training for three years and benching 105kg at 16, which, sure, is solid, but clearly, you plateaued somewhere and think popping Anavar is the answer. It’s not. Without a test base, you’re setting yourself up for lethargy, zero libido, and gains that will disappear the second you come off. You don’t even seem to understand why people use a testosterone base in the first place—it’s not just about "bigger numbers"; it’s about not feeling like absolute garbage while you're suppressing your natural production. Saying, "My natural test won’t fuck up ‘cuz I’m young" is laughably naive. HPTA suppression doesn’t care how young you are; it will hit you the same, and without proper exogenous support, your recovery is going to be a painful, drawn-out process.

And let’s not even get started on the mental gymnastics you’re doing with your PCT plan. You “ween” yourself off Clomid? What does that even mean? You’re stretching out a four-week PCT with laughably low doses like you’re microdosing yourself back to homeostasis. That’s not how this works. Post-cycle therapy is about aggressive recovery, not this slow, drawn-out nonsense. If you actually bothered to do real research instead of half-baked bro-science, you’d know that properly structured cycles include a clear plan for suppression management, not whatever mess this is. At this point, the best cycle advice you could get is to not touch anything until you actually understand basic endocrinology.

ez gptmaxxing tbh