First cycle testo+deca+tren

[Deleted member 4469]

Being natty for 12 Yeats.
What do you think ?(29 Years old)

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Why would you add test if you already have tren you idiot?

 

[Julian]

Youre crazy, start with T only 12 or 15 weeks 250/500mg/week, your choice.

 

[Julian]

Why would you add test if you already have tren you idiot?

What kind of question is this, always good to have a testosterone base in a cycle

 

[maxmendietta]

jst become a human test experiment for androgenic substances theory

 

[Julian]

jst become a human test experiment for androgenic substances theory

Not like all those 3 have been used by thousands of people, and literally every human being produces testosterone himself.

 

[Deleted member 4469]

Youre crazy, start with T only 12 or 15 weeks 250/500mg/week, your choice.

I dont suffer from alopecia so I dont care about androgenic side. The only side I cade Is estrogenic

 

[maxmendietta]

Not like all those 3 have been used by thousands of people, and literally every human being produces testosterone himself.

dont you think its a little bit overkill for his first cycle.

 

[SteveRogers]

What kind of question is this, always good to have a testosterone base in a cycle

exactly wtf

 

[Deusmaximus]

At 29 you have nothing to lose anyways.

 

[Cares]

Test only for first cycle..you have no idea the side effects of all 3. You will hate yourself..

 

[Deleted member 4469]

Test only for first cycle..you have no idea the side effects of all 3. You will hate yourself..

What kind of side could I have aside from androgenic and suppression?

 

[Julian]

dont you think its a little bit overkill for his first cycle.

Read what I said above, under now lol

Youre crazy, start with T only 12 or 15 weeks 250/500mg/week, your choice.

 

[Julian]

What kind of side could I have aside from androgenic and suppression?

Ur gonna die probably cuz u have 0 idea of what youre doing right now lol

 

[Deleted member 5818]

What kind of side could I have aside from androgenic and suppression?

At 29 you might as well just blast and cruise for the rest of your life

 

[Deleted member 4469]

At 29 you might as well just blast and cruise for the rest of your life

Yes this , maybe something like 200 base test per week

 

[Cares]

What kind of side could I have aside from androgenic and suppression?

I shouldn’t have to spoon feed you the long list of cons. Seriously, only take test for your first 6-7 cycles. You don’t need anything else if you are serious about your training and diet. 400-500 mg of test e or test cyp is all you need.

I get zero sides on 400 mg of test cyp, I don’t even need to take an AI.

 

[Deleted member 4469]

I shouldn’t have to spoon feed you the long list of cons. Seriously, only take test for your first 6-7 cycles. You don’t need anything else if you are serious about your training and diet. 400-500 mg of test e or test cyp is all you need.

I get zero sides on 400 mg of test cyp, I don’t even need to take an AI.

Thanks. You convinced me

 

[Conspiracy]

Why would you add test if you already have tren you idiot?

someone clearly knows nothing about AAS

 

[Deleted member 4469]

THANKS EVERYBODY
I Will do only test e For my First cycle

 

[Cares]

Thanks. You convinced me

I am glad to hear that!

 

[Deleted member 4469]

I am glad to hear that!

What do you think about this :
10 weeks with test e
2 injections per week 125 each
Aromasin

Then 2 weeks stop
Then 8 weeks clomid and novaldex

 

[Conspiracy]

What do you think about this :
10 weeks with test e
2 injections per week 125 each
Aromasin

Then 2 weeks stop
Then 8 weeks clomid and novaldex

Not good imo.

Heres a better one
400 or 500mgs a week Mon and Thurs injection time so either 200 or 250 2x
Then keep that aromasin on hand. Dont start taking it unless you have side effects e.g gyno
Do that for 12 weeks, you could go to 14 if you really want
Then 14 days after last shot start your nolva and clomid
Do PCT for 4 weeks. I wouldnt do 8 like you said they arent good for the body. Never heard anyone do 8 weeks not for a 10 week cycle.

 

[Julian]

Not good imo.

Heres a better one
400 or 500mgs a week Mon and Thurs injection time so either 200 or 250 2x
Then keep that aromasin on hand. Dont start taking it unless you have side effects e.g gyno
Do that for 12 weeks, you could go to 14 if you really want
Then 14 days after last shot start your nolva and clomid
Do PCT for 4 weeks. I wouldnt do 8 like you said they arent good for the body. Never heard anyone do 8 weeks not for a 10 week cycle.

He can take in hcg if injecting is not a problem will keep his balls okayish, also easier to recover then

 

[here]

tren = mental hell
also having temporary suppressed t not worth it at all imo, u will feel shittier for months

 

[Conspiracy]

He can take in hcg if injecting is not a problem will keep his balls okayish, also easier to recover then

Depends if he can get it and doesnt mind spending the extra $$$. It is useful but can make his e2 higher which might be a pain for a first cycle especially if hes sensitive to e2

 

[Cares]

What do you think about this :
10 weeks with test e
2 injections per week 125 each
Aromasin

Then 2 weeks stop
Then 8 weeks clomid and novaldex

10 weeks test e is fine (I pin Monday and Thursdays) but the problem on that low of a dose is you won’t get any major results. Generally around the 6 week mark (for me anyway, some people it’s 4 weeks) it’s basically fully in your system and pretty much then the gains start. Test e is a slow releasing ester. So you’ll basically only have around 4-6 weeks for it to build up in your system to make real gains and then 2 weeks of complete shutdown before pct if using test e.

If you want to low dose it like that, why not add in another two weeks of test prop? that way you only have 1 week between stopping test and hopping on pct. Prop clears your system in a week, test e takes 2 weeks to clear. So by doing 2 weeks of prop at the end of your test e cycle, you reduce pct waiting window by 1 week.

That’s just an extra 3 injections per week, 6 in total of prop.

Do not take any AI unless you are very sure you’re getting sides as on that low of a dose there should be no need for an AI at all but it is always advisable to have on hand.

Forget the clomid. Stick to nolva 4 weeks of 40/40/25/25 mg. I used this pct after a cycle of 500 mg test per week and my balls came back 2 weeks after pct hanging very low and libido was fully restored. You only need nolva on that low dose cycle of yours, taking both is overkill and 8 weeks of it would make you suicidal.

 

[Loud_Jock]

Being natty for 12 Yeats.
What do you think ?(29 Years old)

Sick cycle bro. Will DEFINATELY be very noticable. Wish i could try tren but sleep with gf so no go for me.

 

[( ( ( d[-_-]b ) ) )]

Fell for the roid max meme Jfl @ u cucc

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Just stay natty u oldcel

 

[Deleted member 4469]

10 weeks test e is fine (I pin Monday and Thursdays) but the problem on that low of a dose is you won’t get any major results. Generally around the 6 week mark (for me anyway, some people it’s 4 weeks) it’s basically fully in your system and pretty much then the gains start. Test e is a slow releasing ester. So you’ll basically only have around 4-6 weeks for it to build up in your system to make real gains and then 2 weeks of complete shutdown before pct if using test e.

If you want to low dose it like that, why not add in another two weeks of test prop? that way you only have 1 week between stopping test and hopping on pct. Prop clears your system in a week, test e takes 2 weeks to clear. So by doing 2 weeks of prop at the end of your test e cycle, you reduce pct waiting window by 1 week.

That’s just an extra 3 injections per week, 6 in total of prop.

Do not take any AI unless you are very sure you’re getting sides as on that low of a dose there should be no need for an AI at all but it is always advisable to have on hand.

Forget the clomid. Stick to nolva 4 weeks of 40/40/25/25 mg. I used this pct after a cycle of 500 mg test per week and my balls came back 2 weeks after pct hanging very low and libido was fully restored. You only need nolva on that low dose cycle of yours, taking both is overkill and 8 weeks of it would make you suicidal.

Thanks For all this.
So do You think May Be better 375mg per week of test e split in 3 days? For 10 weeks and then t prop For 2?

And why clomid would male me suicidal ?

 

[bruh3610]

Why would u combine 2 19 nors retard
That’s enough progestin to make 100 men gay

 

[wasted]

Why would you add test if you already have tren you idiot?

Cuz test aromatizes to estrogen... tren works really well when coupled with estrogen

 

[Apeiron]

Overdoing it. Just stick with test, 250-500/wk. Unless you want to get bald and get a hairy back.
You should aim to use as little as possible and keep using progressive overload.

 

[wagbox]

Why would you add test if you already have tren you idiot?

Gonna guess you just found out what a steroid was yesterday

 

[wagbox]

If you genuinely are not satisfied with your physique after training for 12 entire fucking years then it’s probably more important to alter how you train than your hormones TBH

And if you are on this site at 29 roids are probably at the bottom of the list of things you need

 

[Cares]

Thanks For all this.
So do You think May Be better 375mg per week of test e split in 3 days? For 10 weeks and then t prop For 2?

And why clomid would male me suicidal ?

It’s entirely up to you if you want to pin test e 3 times per week. The reason I recommend pinning the prop 3 times per week is because of it’s shorter half life. Pinning test e twice a week will suffice but some guys prefer 3 times per week. It’s really individual preference

Clomid has harsh side effects and a lot of guys get very emotional and cry a lot amongst other things. Seriously, stick to nolva only.

Either way on that dose, you will get good results if you are consistent with your training and diet.

 

[Deleted member 4469]

It’s entirely up to you if you want to pin test e 3 times per week. The reason I recommend pinning the prop 3 times per week is because of it’s shorter half life. Pinning test e twice a week will suffice but some guys prefer 3 times per week. It’s really individual preference

Clomid has harsh side effects and a lot of guys get very emotional and cry a lot amongst other things. Seriously, stick to nolva only.

Either way on that dose, you will get good results if you are consistent with your training and diet.

Thanks. Great informations.
I was wondering, how is going if I convert this cycle into trt adding hcg?

 

[Cares]

Thanks. Great informations.
I was wondering, how is going if I convert this cycle into trt adding hcg?

Could you elaborate a bit? A true trt cycle with hcg instead of this current cycle you were talking about doing? What would be your reason for running trt instead a 12 week cycle of test?

 

[Bewusst]

R.I.P. normal HPG axis function, goodbye endogenous androgen synthesis

 

[Deleted member 4469]

Could you elaborate a bit? A true trt cycle with hcg instead of this current cycle you were talking about doing? What would be your reason for running trt instead a 12 week cycle of test?

The reason is to have the feeling of high t ( mood, muscle, libido) for life.
Cycling I m worried of feeling good only for 10/12 weeks

 

[Cares]

The reason is to have the feeling of high t ( mood, muscle, libido) for life.
Cycling I m worried of feeling good only for 10/12 weeks

That is definitely true and i think if you are after improved quality of life trt is most definitely better than running cycles and then coming off completely. You could blast and cruise while on trt and retain the muscle you would otherwise have lost with lower testosterone levels