First Stack

[Deroga]

50mg of LUM-201

1mg of Anastrozole

5mg of Lemborexant

20mg of Melatonin

60mg of Apigenin

25mg of Eplerenone

1.5g of Gluco/Chro/MSM

600mg of ALA

400mcg of Chromium Picolinate

1g of Taurine

200mg of Theanine

400mg of Magnesium Bisglycinate

5g of Glycine

10,000 IU of Vitamin D

300mcg of Vitamin K2 (MK4)

2g of Vitamin C

Thinking About

Androgens like Test and Tren

 

[Deroga]

@chudpiller @PharmaPhaggot @SlayerJonas @Sadist @ihatemySOST @Zagro

 

[BR32]

Test and Tren first cycle

And 1mg Anastrozole

Not ideal

I'd start with 200-250 test and titrate up.

 

[BR32]

You're missing ancillaries if you run gear

 

[Deroga]

Test and Tren first cycle

And 1mg Anastrozole

Not ideal

I'd start with 200-250 test and titrate up.

I said thinking about, I haven't done it yet my primary compound is Mk -> indirect increase in test so im taking anastrozole -> ancillaries for insulin resistance are ala and pico -> and for bloating is eplerenone, others are basic ancillaries for sleep like apigenin, lemborexant, melatonin, mag bis, taurine, theanine, glycine -> very basics like vit c, k2, d

 

[BR32]

I said thinking about, I haven't done it yet my primary compound is Mk -> indirect increase in test so im taking anastrozole -> ancillaries for insulin resistance are ala and pico -> and for bloating is eplerenone, others are basic ancillaries for sleep like apigenin, lemborexant, melatonin, mag bis, taurine, theanine, glycine -> very basics like vit c, k2, d

You're barely getting anything out of mk.

Just run test and HGH

 

[Deroga]

You're barely getting anything out of mk.

Just run test and HGH

Mk at 50mg is literally better than anything under 10 IU of HGH I have studies to prove this I can PM you, also can't run HGH since I probably wouldn't be able to hide it, might do test

 

[BR32]

Mk at 50mg is literally better than anything under 10 IU of HGH I have studies to prove this I can PM you, also can't run HGH since I probably wouldn't be able to hide it, might do test

HGH is easy to get, 10IU/day is not that expensive

send me the studies

@chudpiller

 

[Deroga]

HGH is easy to get, 10IU/day is not that expensive

send me the studies

@chudpiller

Check PM

 

[chudpiller]

LUM-201

bro called mk the clinical trial name so nobody would catch it

@Deroga, you might be harming yourself by taking this many antioxidants since it's unlikely you are experiencing much oxidative stress.

HGH is easy to get, 10IU/day is not that expensive

send me the studies

@chudpiller

I took mk myself and it just made me fat so I don't recommend it. Although it is somewhat effective, I personally don't think the ghrelin receptor is good to fuck with.

 

[BR32]

bro called mk the clinical trial name so nobody would catch it

JFL

@Deroga, you might be harming yourself by taking this many antioxidants since it's unlikely you are experiencing much oxidative stress.

Maybe bros diet is 99% soybean oil

I took mk myself and it just made me fat so I don't recommend it. Although it is somewhat effective, I personally don't think the ghrelin receptor is good to fuck with.

Agreed, It does work but its better just to run HGH.

Fucking w the grehlin receptor is how you mess yourself up long term.

 

[BR32]

@Deroga

I read your studies bro

All four papers are about the same drug (LUM-201/ibutamoren) in the same narrow context: pediatric GHD clinical trials run by Lumos Pharma. They're literally from the same research group — Bright and Thorner appear as authors across all of them. This is essentially one research program's publication pipeline, not four independent lines of evidence.

None of these papers address healthy adults, bodybuilding contexts, dose-response at 50mg, or any comparison to supraphysiologic exogenous GH. They're studies of a pharmaceutical agent being developed to treat growth hormone deficient children as a needle-free alternative to rhGH — where the bar is "can we get reasonable catch-up growth without injections." That's a completely different question than "is 50mg MK-677 better than 10iu GH for a bodybuilder."

If anything, the Bright 2021 paper directly undermines the 50mg premise the efficacy plateau in these studies was at the 0.8 mg/kg/day pediatric dose, and even then rhGH outperformed it in most subjects.

@chudpiller

Development of a Predictive Enrichment Marker for the Oral GH Secretagogue LUM-201 in Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency - PMC

We hypothesize, based on the degree of residual hypothalamic-pituitary function, that some, but not all, children with growth hormone deficiency (GHD) may have beneficial growth responses to the orally administered growth hormone (GH) secretagogue ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A GH Secretagogue Receptor Agonist (LUM-201) Elicits Greater GH Responses than Standard GH Secretagogues in Subjects of a Pediatric GH Deficiency Trial - PMC

LUM-201 (ibutamoren, formerly MK-0677) is an orally administered GH secretagogue receptor agonist under development for treatment of pediatric growth hormone deficiency (PGHD). The GH response to a single dose of LUM-201 and to other GH ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

OR21-06 Growth Response Of Oral LUM-201 In OraGrowtH210 And OraGrowtH212 Trials In Idiopathic Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency (iPGHD): Combined Analysis Interim Analysis Data - PMC

Disclosure: M.J. Tansey: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. S.A. Bowden: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. A.N. Dauber: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. B. Wikiera: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

5162 Oral LUM-201 Restores Pulsatile Growth Hormone Secretion and Growth Response in Moderate Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency (PGHD): Key Discoveries from Phase 2 of OraGrowtH212 Trial - PMC

Disclosure: F. Cassorla: Consulting Fee; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. R. Roman: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. M.L. Johnson: Consulting Fee; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. A. Avila: Research ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also FYM don't share these, bro thinks he owns pubmed

 

[Deroga]

@Deroga

I read your studies bro

All four papers are about the same drug (LUM-201/ibutamoren) in the same narrow context: pediatric GHD clinical trials run by Lumos Pharma. They're literally from the same research group — Bright and Thorner appear as authors across all of them. This is essentially one research program's publication pipeline, not four independent lines of evidence.

None of these papers address healthy adults, bodybuilding contexts, dose-response at 50mg, or any comparison to supraphysiologic exogenous GH. They're studies of a pharmaceutical agent being developed to treat growth hormone deficient children as a needle-free alternative to rhGH — where the bar is "can we get reasonable catch-up growth without injections." That's a completely different question than "is 50mg MK-677 better than 10iu GH for a bodybuilder."

If anything, the Bright 2021 paper directly undermines the 50mg premise the efficacy plateau in these studies was at the 0.8 mg/kg/day pediatric dose, and even then rhGH outperformed it in most subjects.

@chudpiller

Development of a Predictive Enrichment Marker for the Oral GH Secretagogue LUM-201 in Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency - PMC

We hypothesize, based on the degree of residual hypothalamic-pituitary function, that some, but not all, children with growth hormone deficiency (GHD) may have beneficial growth responses to the orally administered growth hormone (GH) secretagogue ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A GH Secretagogue Receptor Agonist (LUM-201) Elicits Greater GH Responses than Standard GH Secretagogues in Subjects of a Pediatric GH Deficiency Trial - PMC

LUM-201 (ibutamoren, formerly MK-0677) is an orally administered GH secretagogue receptor agonist under development for treatment of pediatric growth hormone deficiency (PGHD). The GH response to a single dose of LUM-201 and to other GH ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

OR21-06 Growth Response Of Oral LUM-201 In OraGrowtH210 And OraGrowtH212 Trials In Idiopathic Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency (iPGHD): Combined Analysis Interim Analysis Data - PMC

Disclosure: M.J. Tansey: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. S.A. Bowden: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. A.N. Dauber: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. B. Wikiera: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

5162 Oral LUM-201 Restores Pulsatile Growth Hormone Secretion and Growth Response in Moderate Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency (PGHD): Key Discoveries from Phase 2 of OraGrowtH212 Trial - PMC

Disclosure: F. Cassorla: Consulting Fee; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. R. Roman: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. M.L. Johnson: Consulting Fee; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. A. Avila: Research ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also FYM don't share these, bro thinks he owns pubmed

@Zagro

 

[chudpiller]

@chudpiller

If I remember correctly, the gh dose was also not very high (at least in a bodybuilding/late puberty height-maximizing context) in the mk comparison studies on ISS/GHD children.

 

[BR32]

If I remember correctly, the gh dose was also not very high (at least in a bodybuilding/late puberty height-maximizing context) in the mk comparison studies on ISS/GHD children.

No children get dosed at 10IU lol

Thats what I was reacting to

 

[Deroga]

@Deroga

I read your studies bro

All four papers are about the same drug (LUM-201/ibutamoren) in the same narrow context: pediatric GHD clinical trials run by Lumos Pharma. They're literally from the same research group — Bright and Thorner appear as authors across all of them. This is essentially one research program's publication pipeline, not four independent lines of evidence.

None of these papers address healthy adults, bodybuilding contexts, dose-response at 50mg, or any comparison to supraphysiologic exogenous GH. They're studies of a pharmaceutical agent being developed to treat growth hormone deficient children as a needle-free alternative to rhGH — where the bar is "can we get reasonable catch-up growth without injections." That's a completely different question than "is 50mg MK-677 better than 10iu GH for a bodybuilder."

If anything, the Bright 2021 paper directly undermines the 50mg premise the efficacy plateau in these studies was at the 0.8 mg/kg/day pediatric dose, and even then rhGH outperformed it in most subjects.

@chudpiller

Development of a Predictive Enrichment Marker for the Oral GH Secretagogue LUM-201 in Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency - PMC

We hypothesize, based on the degree of residual hypothalamic-pituitary function, that some, but not all, children with growth hormone deficiency (GHD) may have beneficial growth responses to the orally administered growth hormone (GH) secretagogue ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A GH Secretagogue Receptor Agonist (LUM-201) Elicits Greater GH Responses than Standard GH Secretagogues in Subjects of a Pediatric GH Deficiency Trial - PMC

LUM-201 (ibutamoren, formerly MK-0677) is an orally administered GH secretagogue receptor agonist under development for treatment of pediatric growth hormone deficiency (PGHD). The GH response to a single dose of LUM-201 and to other GH ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

OR21-06 Growth Response Of Oral LUM-201 In OraGrowtH210 And OraGrowtH212 Trials In Idiopathic Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency (iPGHD): Combined Analysis Interim Analysis Data - PMC

Disclosure: M.J. Tansey: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. S.A. Bowden: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. A.N. Dauber: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. B. Wikiera: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

5162 Oral LUM-201 Restores Pulsatile Growth Hormone Secretion and Growth Response in Moderate Pediatric Growth Hormone Deficiency (PGHD): Key Discoveries from Phase 2 of OraGrowtH212 Trial - PMC

Disclosure: F. Cassorla: Consulting Fee; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. R. Roman: Research Investigator; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. M.L. Johnson: Consulting Fee; Self; Lumos Pharma, Inc. A. Avila: Research ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also FYM don't share these, bro thinks he owns pubmed

1. Why would any of these studies test healty adults, what health adults or teenagers would willingly take 50mg of Mk, the response should theoritically be the same
2. I extrapolated the 10IU its probably closer to 8IU but Mk is still comparable to that amount and any amount of GH under 6-7, Mk is better for longitudal and radial growth
3. 0.8mg/kg was literally the same as 1.6 did we read the same studies
4. Why are you using chat gpt dawg

 

[aidentxst]

Mk at 50mg is literally better than anything under 10 IU of HGH I have studies to prove this I can PM you, also can't run HGH since I probably wouldn't be able to hide it, might do test

that's why all the bodybuilders are running mk and not just teenagers right lul

 

[chudpiller]

that's why all the bodybuilders are running mk and not just teenagers right lul

no ifpb pro is taking mk bro
they are all taking serostim

 

[aidentxst]

no ifpb pro is taking mk bro
they are all taking serostim

autismpiller

 

[Zagro]

@Zagro

Omg!

Exogenous growth hormone outperformed a growth hormone secretagogue in kids with GHD???

That’s impossible!

Maybe if he can take 2 minutes of his precious time and read the study he can see that mk only produces 20% of the systemic levels and achieves 80% of the results

Don’t tag me for people with zero heightmaxxing knowledge this nigga thinks estrogen is important

 

[ihatemySOST]

will read soon

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

So up the adex to 3+mg or your gay