fluoro phenibut

[pentamogged9000]

had a great time with f phenibut yesterday, took like 200mg and nothing then 350 a couple hours and nothing so another ~2 hours later i took ~500 and then 40 minutes later started getting a high. peaked around 100 minutes after ingesting (with orange juice) and didn't drop sharply

it's a very silly disinhibited high, where you feel quite warm, a lot more controlled disinhibition than benzos/alcohol though

i took the final dose ~4pm and it was still around 80% of peak at 8:30pm and i felt it still ~35% when i woke up at 6:30am. this is probably because i let it build up with so many doses, i think i metabolise it very slowly or inefficiently because the lower doses didn't work. if you are trying for first time take 200mg at most, if you don't feel anything a few hours later or it isn't very strong then redose up to 300/200mg again respectively

it made me feel like crying though, i haven't felt like crying since i was maybe 11. it's resistible as in you can just not cry but i wouldn't want to be prone to crying in a social situation. i think this is just the mild entactogenic effect

it also makes me last a lot longer, without a problem getting hard. even the next day it's hard to finish

best effects were:

-music enhancement
-mild euphoria
-disinhibition (texting is a lot easier, speaking was good too but i could be a bit over the top)
-slight stimulation
-easier to sleep, had vivid dreams
-easier to eat, but i felt sick for a while after i ate ~1200 calories in 5 minutes

it also dehydrates a bit, but on wikis it says less dehydrating than phenibut

and it can make you nauseous but it is a lot worse if you eat before/on the come up or just at a high dose

 

[pentamogged9000]

@FiendFiend @mcmentalonthemic @ranierean

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Yeah even normal phenibut takes quite a bit to hit but when it does it lasts the full day. What's the main difference between this and normal phenibut? For me phenibut feels like everything just feels better. I get a kill in a video game - euphoria
That part of a song I like - euphoria
I blow my nose - euphoria
I go outside - euphoria
I drink coffee - euphoria

Ofcourse this euphoria isn't like xanax level, it's more like a background version
Adderal to phenylpiracetam is like Xanax to phenibut (when it comes to their stimulation effects vs xanax and phenibut's euphoria effects)

 

[pentamogged9000]

What's the main difference between this and normal phenibut?

the main difference is the speed, it is supposed to have really fast onset, like i said it took around 40 minutes to get first effects

also a lot more potent by weight, they say 5-10x as strong but i felt it was maybe 2.5-3x stronger by weight (based on what they say online about phenibut dosing) but i might just have "bad" f phenibut like something with wrong enantiomers or other impurity

they also say a lot shorter duration but i feel like it might be similar to phenibut since i still felt a bit high 14 hours later in the morning, could be a buildup though

they say it's a lot more euphoric too but could be cope

 

[pentamogged9000]

Ofcourse this euphoria isn't like xanax level, it's more like a background version

really, i never felt as much euphoria on xanax

f phenibut feels a lot more euphoric to me

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

the main difference is the speed, it is supposed to have really fast onset, like i said it took around 40 minutes to get first effects

also a lot more potent by weight, they say 5-10x as strong but i felt it was maybe 2.5-3x stronger by weight (based on what they say online about phenibut dosing) but i might just have "bad" f phenibut like something with wrong enantiomers or other impurity

they also say a lot shorter duration but i feel like it might be similar to phenibut since i still felt a bit high 14 hours later in the morning, could be a buildup though

they say it's a lot more euphoric too but could be cope

Does the flouro part let it bypass the blood brain barrier more easily or smth? What's it's bioavailability compared to ordinary phenibut

 

[TechnoBoss]

I've heard that f-phenibut has different effects.

I want to switch to doing a different type of phenibut because I need to take 15g to feel it now since I've been doing for 10 years. Phenibut also WRECKS your stomach.

 

[taai]

At home?

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

I've heard that f-phenibut has different effects.

I want to switch to doing a different type of phenibut because I need to take 15g to feel it now since I've been doing for 10 years. Phenibut also WRECKS your stomach.

My phenibut provider stopped shipping phenibut to my country

 

[TechnoBoss]

My phenibut provider stopped shipping phenibut to my country

You can't go to venogen or science bio? Venogen is shipping from within the US soon and science bio ships from inside the US I believe.

Worst comes to worst you can always find a provider from IndiaMart.

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

You can't go to venogen or science bio? Venogen is shipping from within the US soon and science bio ships from inside the US I believe.

Worst comes to worst you can always find a provider from IndiaMart.

I used to go cosmicnootropic [one of my fav vendors for other stuff]
They now only ship phenibut TO the US, I am not US based

WOOOW thanks for doxxing me, admin. More admin abuse from technoboob

 

[pentamogged9000]

Does the flouro part let it bypass the blood brain barrier more easily or smth?

yes, a lot more lipophilic

What's it's bioavailability compared to ordinary phenibut

online it says ~99% for the free amino acid form and ~83% for the HCl salt, and phenibut was a bit lower, around 60-70%

but fluoro phenibut has a lot stronger affinity for the gaba b receptors than regular phenibut

I want to switch to doing a different type of phenibut because I need to take 15g to feel it now since I've been doing for 10 years.

nigga what? have you ever gone cold turkey because 15 grams is insane. you must feel like shit without it unless you're talking about some kind of perma tolerance

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

nigga what? have you ever gone cold turkey because 15 grams is insane. you must feel like shit without it unless you're talking about some kind of perma tolerance

I actually didn't even clock that, isn't 4g the overdose limit? His vendor is cutting his phenibut with flour bruh

 

[TechnoBoss]

nigga what? have you ever gone cold turkey because 15 grams is insane. you must feel like shit without it unless you're talking about some kind of perma tolerance

Yes I have gone cold turkey and you just feel like shit. It feels as though in your life has been completely smothered by darkness. I can take 20g+ and not feel it if I took it the day before. I think I've taken 30g (and it's pure stuff) after having taken it the day prior and it affected me normally.

 

[TechnoBoss]

I actually didn't even clock that, isn't 4g the overdose limit? His vendor is cutting his phenibut with flour bruh

No such thing as an "overdose limit" - It all depends on your tolerance.

 

[pentamogged9000]

At home?

yeah, im gonna take at home again tomorrow

and then take for social event on tuesday, i'm only taking tomorrow because i want to make sure i will get the dosage right on tuesday

 

[taai]

yeah, im gonna take at home again tomorrow

and then take for social event on tuesday, i'm only taking tomorrow because i want to make sure i will get the dosage right on tuesday

Interesting share your results

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

No such thing as an "overdose limit" - It all depends on your tolerance.

15g I'd turn into juice world

 

[pentamogged9000]

Yes I have gone cold turkey and you just feel like shit. It feels as though in your life has been completely smothered by darkness. I can take 20g+ and not feel it if I took it the day before. I think I've taken 30g (and it's pure stuff) after having taken it the day prior and it affected me normally.

it sounds like when i had benzo/opioid withdrawals, i think you should really try and do a hard taper like reduce dosage by something like 200mg a day, stay in mild withdrawal. that was the fastest tolerable way for me to stop using benzos

 

[pentamogged9000]

i haven't been addicted to anything for that long though, so i wouldn't know much about quitting

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

it sounds like when i had benzo/opioid withdrawals, i think you should really try and do a hard taper like reduce dosage by something like 200mg a day, stay in mild withdrawal. that was the fastest tolerable way for me to stop using benzos

I remember wanting to take benzo because i liked the character Alexander Malone from prison break who was addicted to them
Typing that I realise how I was diagnosed with autism so young

 

[TechnoBoss]

15g I'd turn into juice world

If a normal person took 15g they would die no doubt about it. I took 15g yesterday to go to a party with some friends and also took shots after. I was normal up until later in the night when I overdid the alcohol.

I will stress that this is not normal. Alcohol potentiates phenibut becuase they both affect the same receptors in the brain. The dosage itself will no doubt kill a normal user of the compound. Drinking alcohol on phenibut is a no go because it can make the effects unprudictable. Most users can feel it off 1.5g and at most they're taking 3.5g if they're a relatively experienced user of the compound.

it sounds like when i had benzo/opioid withdrawals, i think you should really try and do a hard taper like reduce dosage by something like 200mg a day, stay in mild withdrawal. that was the fastest tolerable way for me to stop using benzos

Yes it's horrible. It makes me want to just stay in bed and not talk to anyone until the withdrawal stops. I take NACET to manage withdrawals & take 1-2g to help calm down the issues I face when I don't have it.

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

If a normal person took 15g they would die no doubt about it.

I would honestly stop if I was you your receptors are probably getting fried
Addicted?

 

[TechnoBoss]

I would honestly stop if I was you your receptors are probably getting fried
Addicted?

100% addicted because I feel like I need it to be on my A-game when I'm on dates. You feel nerfed without it. I'm trying to find a source for pregab.

@Reformed Can you send me your source for pregab in PMs? You mentioned a

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

100% addicted because I feel like I need it to be on my A-game when I'm on dates. You feel nerfed without it. I'm trying to find a source for pregab.

@Reformed Can you send me your source for pregab in PMs? You mentioned a

Your withdrawal will be hell, reports say it's worse than heroin

 

[TechnoBoss]

Your withdrawal will be hell, reports say it's worse than heroin

I've never had REALLY bad withdrawals from anything. I have heavy experience with benzos, and quitting that was a piece of cake. I've come out of withdrawals from Phenibut a bunch of times now. You just feel really depressed for a few days after you quit but there's no physical pain.

Alcohol is actually very shitty to suddenly stop drinking. You have shakes, and you can get auditory hallucinations.

You have to be careful with quitting anything that affects your GABA receptors due to the risk of seizures. This is why I take NACET because seizures are caused by an imbalance of glutamate & NAC/NACET fixes it.

I'm really on borrowed time when it comes to Phenibut usage, though.

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

You have to be careful with quitting anything that affects your GABA receptors due to the risk of seizures. This is why I take NACET because seizures are caused by an imbalance of glutamate & NAC/NACET fixes it.

That's exactly what I was thinking yeah

 

[Reformed]

Your withdrawal will be hell, reports say it's worse than heroin

I've never had REALLY bad withdrawals from anything. I have heavy experience with benzos, and quitting that was a piece of cake. I've come out of withdrawals from Phenibut a bunch of times now. You just feel really depressed for a few days after you quit but there's no physical pain.

Alcohol is actually very shitty to suddenly stop drinking. You have shakes, and you can get auditory hallucinations.

You have to be careful with quitting anything that affects your GABA receptors due to the risk of seizures. This is why I take NACET because seizures are caused by an imbalance of glutamate & NAC/NACET fixes it.

I'm really on borrowed time when it comes to Phenibut usage, though.

Pregab withdrawals are no joke. I feel like I’m barely surviving the sober days after, but it’s just so damn effective so I put up with it. At some point I felt like I was struggling to breath, like I had to manually take deep breaths.

Be careful imo. I also never had withdrawals from anything up until pregab

 

[Reformed]

for 10 years

Goddamn

Yes it's horrible. It makes me want to just stay in bed and not talk to anyone until the withdrawal stops.

Oh ok. It’s the exact same on Pregab lol. But maybe you’ll get physical withdrawals too like ur heart rate or breathing

 

[pentamogged9000]

Be careful imo. I also never had withdrawals from anything up until pregab

hard gaba withdrawals are the worst, i think i learnt from a lot of benzo use that you should only use them for social events or once or twice a week occasionally

pregab was quite weird for me the withdrawals felt a lot different from other gabaergics

 

[Reformed]

hard gaba withdrawals are the worst, i think i learnt from a lot of benzo use that you should only use them for social events or once or twice a week occasionally

pregab was quite weird for me the withdrawals felt a lot different from other gabaergics

Pregab dosing to balance withdrawals

I’ve been thinking about this Pregab users let me know ur input. Say the day u go out or on a date u take ur regular dose. Mine would be 300mg for example Then the next day u half it to 150mg, next day to 75mg and then stay sober until the next time u need it. So u could start on Friday, and...

looksmax.org

thoughts on this?
reply here btw

 

[pentamogged9000]

Pregab dosing to balance withdrawals

I’ve been thinking about this Pregab users let me know ur input. Say the day u go out or on a date u take ur regular dose. Mine would be 300mg for example Then the next day u half it to 150mg, next day to 75mg and then stay sober until the next time u need it. So u could start on Friday, and...

looksmax.org

thoughts on this?
reply here btw

im not too sure what you mean, you take it almost every day?

only get withdrawals with longer consistent use, not sure why you'd need to taper if you just use on special occasions

 

[Reformed]

im not too sure what you mean, you take it almost every day?

only get withdrawals with longer consistent use, not sure why you'd need to taper if you just use on special occasions

maybe i fucked up