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Planed to make this thread in the morning after I slept for 14 hours from my pregab hibernation, but I logged on to end some copes on my oral minox thread and wanted to make it tn. I have been inactive on here for a few weeks until recently due to researching game from slayers/redpillers and attempt to reach a formula for consistent slays. I have put it into action since I have moved back to my college crib and found a formula I have used to escape my inceldom and rack up four slays in these past two weeks. To make sure the first two were not flukes a waited until this weekend to attempt to go out I slayed Friday and Saturday night. Obviously I will have and have had some incel tier nights. Sometimes it just doesnt work out and I am not chad , but I have found this method to be the most effective for slaying fairly close to my looks level and some-what constantly. Women are a hive mind, the same shit that works on one works on the rest, (granted you meet the looks threshold). Sorry for shit spelling my keyboard is spinning from my low inhib stack, I will probably look over and post in the mourning to make sure it makes sense.
SLAYING GUIDE AUTISM PROOF
For all of my fellow autist here is a guide I used from a mix of talking to my slayer friends and redpillers. I found this easy and uncomplicated every girl really seemed to fuck with it too.
Remember, slaying (like anything with women) is a positive feedback loop, once you are able to do it once or a few times you can do it more and more. These method only took me a few tries to get down. ALL USERS CAN FOLLOW THIS.
I am sick of seeing looksmaxxing being made a depressing thing, if you are not looksmaxxing to slay foids and mog normies you are doing it wrong. MAKE .ORG GREAT AGAIN
Priming yourself
Priming yourself comes in two ways, your looks and brainchemistry. If you were good looking and have a normal brain chemistry, you would not be on the forum. So these things must be optimized before going anywhere.
Brain chemistry:
I have had a lot of experience trying to find the perfect Bar, house part, club stack the one that I have settled on is ideal is the following:
Low dose caffeine
Baclofen
Pregablin
Cillias
Gear in general
Alcohol is good but too much of a looxmin for me to justify
I have noticed that just baclofen+pregab makes me feel a little to euphoric and not really wnat to go approach. The low dose of caffeine (like 100 mgs) makes me a little bit more alert and willing to approach. I would not recommend anything over 300 mgs has high doses tend to increase anxiety (which is ofc unideal). Experiment and make sure you take enough to giga lower your inhib, dont go overboard as being incoherent is a massive falio. On the other side talking to a foid without reducing my neurotransmitters enough is the equivalent to being chinese waterboarded. Find a good dose that works for you without looking like a retard. Underrated tip is taking your pills under your tongue (idk what the actual term is for it). Placing my pregbab+baclofen allows it to quick in faster and harder for me, however it does last not as long.
Being on gear gives me much more confidence and increases my libido along with cillias my motivation. Being Roided+Tall is such a mog combo in a nightlife setting, such a chad trait + a huge status max, so many jesters will come up to you asking how much you can lift on some cope exercise. In my expirence foids asssocate people jestering you with status. Cillias is superior to viagra due to the long half life. Popping a pill before sex you run the risk of not having on oppurtinty of not being able to sneak off and popping the pill, or you might even forget due to your iq being lowered by 30 points from the rec drugs. Cillias circumvents this whole process as you can just take it before you get to the venue.
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Priming your looks:
Way to many shit on frauding, it is a legit method to increase your looks package in order to peak yourself, my routine is as follows:
Bonesmahsing for swelling
CC cream
Elevator shoes
Shaving
Diuretics
Lumify eye whitening drops
Fake tanner the night before
I don’t believe in bonsmashing for actual bone gains, just not enough evidence to convert me. However bonesmashing for temporary swelling is legit. I do 2 one minuete sessions on my zygos and browridge. Especially on zygos there is a noticeable difference.
People shit on makeupceling are beyond retarded, everything should be done in the name of looking better, and make up has one of the highest ROIs on any soft max. Complaining about how foods use makeup to ascend themselves and then not doing it yourself is the dumbest logic ever. Just be reasonable with it, if you get called out it is total social death. CC cream covers a little of my PIE from acne along from the redness from bone smashing. Getting god-tier skin without make up is almost impossible. Having a white sclera is a very underrated part of having good coloring, lumify eyedrops are a very simply and easy fix to eye redness.
I have also been using the bondi sands 1 hour express dark tanner, The change looks natural and adds a good amount of tan to us whitecels. I would use mt2 but I don’t want to age myself due to being on accutane. I personally use it for about 3 ish hours, It gives me a nice tan on all applied areas and does not look splotchy.
Going from 6.2 to 6.4 is a huge halio, taking me to one of the tallest people in the room, I use the same brand as @Amnesia and it mogs hard. Just were bagging pants to kinda conceal them. They look a little odd. I only make up and elevator shoes max in settings where everyone is intoxicated, making it less likely for them to notice. Elevator shoes mog shoe lifts, I havent found any shoes lifts that dont sink into your shoe. Every approach I made a foid pretty much always comments on my height. I only have ones that add like 2.2 inches I have no clue how people walk in 4 inch lifts walking in these are already nearly fucking impossible. `
Shaving is a must, facial hair looks like shit, there is no copes about it almost all beardcels are concelling the shit facial bones and it does not look good+ younger girls do not like facial hair at all. Your goal should not be to try to attract some old slut at the bar.
I personally use furomeside as my diuretic of choice, a few hours before going out, Start around 40mgs and test the waters I have never exceeded 80 mgs , on this amount I get tera compliments from jesters on how leanmaxxed my face is on furo. if you don't look good on 80 mgs then you are either boneless or not lean enough.
Approaching formula
First, do not look like a fucking rapist on the prowl. Guys who sit in the corner hard core staring at every girl that walks past them with an autistic look on their face never do well. I like to first sit down at the bar and have a good time with your friends, basically just be a normal human. Loosen up a little, when you feel ready to approach head to the dance floor.
The first thing to do is start farming IOI’s. The biggest IOI is of course being approached by a foid, paired with them complementing your looks is the biggest IOI you can possibly receive. These are the most primal women in the bar and the most willing to hookup. However I have only been approached by a girl that was my looksmatch or even a point below one time (White HTB but with a Klinefelter’s syndrome tier body) . Most girls who approach you are at least 2.5 points below your looks level from my experience. The lower they are below your looks level the more they basically just flat out ask to go home with you. If you do not care about slaying 3 psls then this is the best method for easy slaying. If you do care about hooking up with something remotely close to your looks level then an approach must be made.
There are two types of approaches from my experience, an approach with and IOI and and approach without an IOI
The first is approaching with an IOI, common IOI's beside being approached is
Priming yourself comes in two ways, your looks and brainchemistry. If you were good looking and have a normal brain chemistry, you would not be on the forum. So these things must be optimized before going anywhere.
Brain chemistry:
I have had a lot of experience trying to find the perfect Bar, house part, club stack the one that I have settled on is ideal is the following:
Low dose caffeine
Baclofen
Pregablin
Cillias
Gear in general
Alcohol is good but too much of a looxmin for me to justify
I have noticed that just baclofen+pregab makes me feel a little to euphoric and not really wnat to go approach. The low dose of caffeine (like 100 mgs) makes me a little bit more alert and willing to approach. I would not recommend anything over 300 mgs has high doses tend to increase anxiety (which is ofc unideal). Experiment and make sure you take enough to giga lower your inhib, dont go overboard as being incoherent is a massive falio. On the other side talking to a foid without reducing my neurotransmitters enough is the equivalent to being chinese waterboarded. Find a good dose that works for you without looking like a retard. Underrated tip is taking your pills under your tongue (idk what the actual term is for it). Placing my pregbab+baclofen allows it to quick in faster and harder for me, however it does last not as long.
Being on gear gives me much more confidence and increases my libido along with cillias my motivation. Being Roided+Tall is such a mog combo in a nightlife setting, such a chad trait + a huge status max, so many jesters will come up to you asking how much you can lift on some cope exercise. In my expirence foids asssocate people jestering you with status. Cillias is superior to viagra due to the long half life. Popping a pill before sex you run the risk of not having on oppurtinty of not being able to sneak off and popping the pill, or you might even forget due to your iq being lowered by 30 points from the rec drugs. Cillias circumvents this whole process as you can just take it before you get to the venue.
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Priming your looks:
Way to many shit on frauding, it is a legit method to increase your looks package in order to peak yourself, my routine is as follows:
Bonesmahsing for swelling
CC cream
Elevator shoes
Shaving
Diuretics
Lumify eye whitening drops
Fake tanner the night before
I don’t believe in bonsmashing for actual bone gains, just not enough evidence to convert me. However bonesmashing for temporary swelling is legit. I do 2 one minuete sessions on my zygos and browridge. Especially on zygos there is a noticeable difference.
People shit on makeupceling are beyond retarded, everything should be done in the name of looking better, and make up has one of the highest ROIs on any soft max. Complaining about how foods use makeup to ascend themselves and then not doing it yourself is the dumbest logic ever. Just be reasonable with it, if you get called out it is total social death. CC cream covers a little of my PIE from acne along from the redness from bone smashing. Getting god-tier skin without make up is almost impossible. Having a white sclera is a very underrated part of having good coloring, lumify eyedrops are a very simply and easy fix to eye redness.
I have also been using the bondi sands 1 hour express dark tanner, The change looks natural and adds a good amount of tan to us whitecels. I would use mt2 but I don’t want to age myself due to being on accutane. I personally use it for about 3 ish hours, It gives me a nice tan on all applied areas and does not look splotchy.
Going from 6.2 to 6.4 is a huge halio, taking me to one of the tallest people in the room, I use the same brand as @Amnesia and it mogs hard. Just were bagging pants to kinda conceal them. They look a little odd. I only make up and elevator shoes max in settings where everyone is intoxicated, making it less likely for them to notice. Elevator shoes mog shoe lifts, I havent found any shoes lifts that dont sink into your shoe. Every approach I made a foid pretty much always comments on my height. I only have ones that add like 2.2 inches I have no clue how people walk in 4 inch lifts walking in these are already nearly fucking impossible. `
Shaving is a must, facial hair looks like shit, there is no copes about it almost all beardcels are concelling the shit facial bones and it does not look good+ younger girls do not like facial hair at all. Your goal should not be to try to attract some old slut at the bar.
I personally use furomeside as my diuretic of choice, a few hours before going out, Start around 40mgs and test the waters I have never exceeded 80 mgs , on this amount I get tera compliments from jesters on how leanmaxxed my face is on furo. if you don't look good on 80 mgs then you are either boneless or not lean enough.
Approaching formula
First, do not look like a fucking rapist on the prowl. Guys who sit in the corner hard core staring at every girl that walks past them with an autistic look on their face never do well. I like to first sit down at the bar and have a good time with your friends, basically just be a normal human. Loosen up a little, when you feel ready to approach head to the dance floor.
The first thing to do is start farming IOI’s. The biggest IOI is of course being approached by a foid, paired with them complementing your looks is the biggest IOI you can possibly receive. These are the most primal women in the bar and the most willing to hookup. However I have only been approached by a girl that was my looksmatch or even a point below one time (White HTB but with a Klinefelter’s syndrome tier body) . Most girls who approach you are at least 2.5 points below your looks level from my experience. The lower they are below your looks level the more they basically just flat out ask to go home with you. If you do not care about slaying 3 psls then this is the best method for easy slaying. If you do care about hooking up with something remotely close to your looks level then an approach must be made.
There are two types of approaches from my experience, an approach with and IOI and and approach without an IOI
The first is approaching with an IOI, common IOI's beside being approached is
- A girl talking to her friend while looking at you and smiling
- Making eye contact at a girl and her smiling at you
- Making eyecontact with a girl, smiling at her and her smiling at you.
- A girl repeatedly making eyecontact/looking over at you
- (Ik this is water for anyone who is remotely NT)
Once you have received an IOI it is time to approach, My approach is so autism proof every user can do it, it is modeled after one of @Clavicular old thread
Go up to the girl somewhere in her peripheral version, which should be easy since she will be looking at you if she is giving you an IOI. Do as follows, I have done this for every approach:
Go up to the girl somewhere in her peripheral version, which should be easy since she will be looking at you if she is giving you an IOI. Do as follows, I have done this for every approach:
- Hey, I though you were cute, wanna dance.
- If she says yes, take her hand and just start moving them back and fourth, do not start squinting your eyes, just smile. Smilemaxing is MANDORTORY, I do not care if my psl is .25 better when I am squinting it is not worth looking retarted.
- Then after about 15 seconds I spin her around and pull her in closer grabbing her waist with my right hand
- Ideally she makes the first move and goes into kiss, if not then I say something like, “ we should do more than dance,” (The exact wording does not matter much, there is pick up line that will get you over the needed looks threshold if you do not meet it)
- If she says something slutty or smiles and laughs and makes the face like she wants to be kissed go in for the kiss.
This is a giga easy way to escalate and if a girl does not kiss me within two minutes I just LDAR her.
Giving a complaint to a girl especially below your looksmatch feels so cucked but it is necessary imo to immediately tell them that you are interested. I have watched a lot of redpillers debate this and I have came to this conclusion. If a girl is giving you an IOI then you show interest back by calling her cute or pretty it is not as cucked and is worth doing.
An approach without an IOI is slightly different
I go up to a girl in a way she can see me, do not go and tap her in the back and tower over her, you will come off as a rapist. Then I say:
Hey, what's your name
Hey I am becky
Hey becky, do u wanna dance?
Dancemaxxing is the easiest way to tell if a girl is interested in you, I don’t even give a compliant when approaching a girl with no IOI’s. I don't even want to give her a molecule of validation. It takes a girl 5 seconds to make up her mind if you meet her looks threshold this way you will either immediately get rejected or being able to repeat the dancemaxxing formula above.
do not jester a girl by asking her a shit ton of questions. Either kiss in 2 minutes or ldar her.
Escalating to be able to slay
From here you are no longer a KHHV, better then 90 percent of users.
DO NOT BE A MAKE OUTCEL
This was my biggest problem for a year, I have easily racked up over 100 kisses before my first slay but that was my fatal mistake… once you kiss her once DO not stand there for 15 minutes and make out, YOU ARE KILLING ALL SEXUAl CURIOSITY. This was a huge falio me for me for almost a year and I had no clue. Some redpillers I have been watching say to not even kiss a girl at all. I used to just stand there and makeout with a bitch for up to half an hour before she had enough of my turbo autism and left. Also you are failoing yourself with every other girl in the bar/club, if you kiss a girl for over 5 minutes literally everyone will see it and if you can’t slay the girl you are kissing for what ever reason then you just fucked your chances of getting with anyone else. The superior option is as follows
Break the kiss after 30 seconds, still have physical contact. At this point a few things need to work out.
Giving a complaint to a girl especially below your looksmatch feels so cucked but it is necessary imo to immediately tell them that you are interested. I have watched a lot of redpillers debate this and I have came to this conclusion. If a girl is giving you an IOI then you show interest back by calling her cute or pretty it is not as cucked and is worth doing.
An approach without an IOI is slightly different
I go up to a girl in a way she can see me, do not go and tap her in the back and tower over her, you will come off as a rapist. Then I say:
Hey, what's your name
Hey I am becky
Hey becky, do u wanna dance?
Dancemaxxing is the easiest way to tell if a girl is interested in you, I don’t even give a compliant when approaching a girl with no IOI’s. I don't even want to give her a molecule of validation. It takes a girl 5 seconds to make up her mind if you meet her looks threshold this way you will either immediately get rejected or being able to repeat the dancemaxxing formula above.
do not jester a girl by asking her a shit ton of questions. Either kiss in 2 minutes or ldar her.
Escalating to be able to slay
From here you are no longer a KHHV, better then 90 percent of users.
DO NOT BE A MAKE OUTCEL
This was my biggest problem for a year, I have easily racked up over 100 kisses before my first slay but that was my fatal mistake… once you kiss her once DO not stand there for 15 minutes and make out, YOU ARE KILLING ALL SEXUAl CURIOSITY. This was a huge falio me for me for almost a year and I had no clue. Some redpillers I have been watching say to not even kiss a girl at all. I used to just stand there and makeout with a bitch for up to half an hour before she had enough of my turbo autism and left. Also you are failoing yourself with every other girl in the bar/club, if you kiss a girl for over 5 minutes literally everyone will see it and if you can’t slay the girl you are kissing for what ever reason then you just fucked your chances of getting with anyone else. The superior option is as follows
Break the kiss after 30 seconds, still have physical contact. At this point a few things need to work out.
- Get your friends to jester her friends. Which they should be doing as your approaching if not give them a look letting them know that they need to stop her friends from cucking you. This is why solo maxxing is just not worth it, jestering her friends is a mandatory part of nightlife slaying.
- Once this is achieved ask her to go some place private like outside or if there is a sitting area that is quiet.
- still holding physical contact, dont sit there like you are on a prom date. Now you have a few options, if you are car maxxed ask her to come smoke a cig with her in your car, even if you don’t have cigs, just larp and say you ran out. From there you two will be isolated so that you can have the chance to slay.
- if you are not carmaxxed then you have to convince her to come back to your place, I found success in saying something like “ Becky, I have drinks at my place if you and your friends want to come over.”
- Hopefully your friends how good looking and charismatic enough to have her friends like them enough to not think they are incels and agree. Carmaxxing mogs this method as you can just avoid the whole process have trying to get her to either leave her friends or bringing her friends with her. Most girls do not want to leave there friends to go get slayed, so I found inviting everyone is the best way to get her back to your place.
- If her and her friends agree then once I got back to my house I larped about having to charge my phone and asking her if she wanted to see my room. From there just makeout again and get on the bed and start escalating to slaying. Hide your shoes under the bed so she doesnt peak over and see your borderline high heels ofc. I try to make up some larp about having to work early in the morning so she doesnt try to spend the night. Another reason why carmaxxing stays unmoggable due to avoiding the chance of her spending the night.
SLAYING GUIDE AUTISM PROOF
For all of my fellow autist here is a guide I used from a mix of talking to my slayer friends and redpillers. I found this easy and uncomplicated every girl really seemed to fuck with it too.
- Makeout with her on the bed
- Start rubbing her pussy to “warm her up.”
- From there if she is receptive just tell her you want to fuck her
- Start fingering her to continue to "warm her up"
- Then in missionary lift her up so her hips are off the bed, one my friends with a 100+ lays put my on to this, you get better leverage to hit her G spot and lifting up her girl during sex is a chad trait.
TLDR;
The Best method is bringing your car to the bar, escalating inside, inviting her back to your car to do something normal (Both of you know that your going there to slay) and slaying from there. If you have not kissed a girl in under three minutes ldar her and move on to the next one, you are just getting validation farmed. Remember, slaying (like anything with women) is a positive feedback loop, once you are able to do it once or a few times you can do it more and more. These method only took me a few tries to get down. ALL USERS CAN FOLLOW THIS.
I am sick of seeing looksmaxxing being made a depressing thing, if you are not looksmaxxing to slay foids and mog normies you are doing it wrong. MAKE .ORG GREAT AGAIN
