Found old pictures of my ex on some facebook project.

[MoggerGaston]

Apparently she did some project when she was in high-school and there's pics of her on the facebook of that project page. Never saw them before.
I dated this girl when she was 22yo. The pics are from when she was 15yo.

The fog is unbelievable. She was HTB+ tier. maybe even stacylite at 15yo.
Descended to Becky+ or weak HTB by the age of 22.

The struggle of being a man is that you will forever be attracted the most to teenage JBs. Even when you are oldcel yourself. Meaning that you will never be able to get attractive women anymore once your access to JBs perishes.

Meanwhile women, again live life on easymode:
Their preferences go alongside their age. Women are pretty much only attracted to men their age or older. There's a few delusional copers on this forum that think women want teenage chads, but that's an extremely rare case compared to men liking JBs.

Result is that women will always be able to get attractive men as their standards stay 'realistic' throughout their life.

JFL at being born male ngl.

 

[Deleted member 20399]

Apparently she did some project when she was in high-school and there's pics of her on the facebook of that project page. Never saw them before.
I dated this girl when she was 22yo. The pics are from when she was 15yo.

The fog is unbelievable. She was HTB+ tier. maybe even stacylite at 15yo.
Descended to Becky+ or weak HTB by the age of 22.

The struggle of being a man is that you will forever be attracted the most to teenage JBs. Even when you are oldcel yourself. Meaning that you will never be able to get attractive women anymore once your access to JBs perishes.

Meanwhile women, again live life on easymode:
Their preferences go alongside their age. Women are pretty much only attracted to men their age or older. There's a few delusional copers on this topic that think women want teenage chads, but that's an extremely rare case compared to men liking JBs.

Result is that women will always be able to get attractive men as their standards stay 'realistic' throughout their life.

JFL at being born male ngl.

Sex and dating isn’t everything bro

 

[MoggerGaston]

Sex and dating isn’t everything bro

Funny thing is I remember discussing the JBpill with her aswell. And she told me she regularly has 'old men' approach her, ask for her number, etc.

And she thought it was sad since they are 40+ yo and she is disgusted by them. And she can't imagine anyone her age ever dating men like that, meaning those men must be incel.

brutal

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I rememebr i had a 22yo girl want to meet me off hinge before- she looked pretty dceent, but then I added her insta and she had old pics of her from like 2017 and she was legit stunning at 17yo, even tho she looked decent now- it was rage inducing that some other guy who put no effort into looksmaxxing etc like I did got a way better version of her meanwhile after all my hard work I just got the scraps

Made me rage then I stopped talked to her- ironically I would’ve been happy with her looks as they were if it weren’t for the knowledge they used to be way better. She should’ve deleted all her teenage pics tbf

 

[Prettyboy]

I have checked the social media of girls I used to be with in highschool and sometimes its stunning how much they can descend in just a few years. From HTB back then to a tier I would not voluntarily touch now. Meanwhile guys usually improve themselves in their early 20s, only to end up getting scraps

I’m still going for 18 year olds, I have no intention to go for older females anytime soon even though I’m already at the end of undergrad

 

[the BULL]

i don't get jb obsession most girls look same or better after 20
i would rage if i had to cope with 40 yo completely post wall roasties yes

 

[MoggerGaston]

I rememebr i had a 22yo girl want to meet me off hinge before- she looked pretty dceent, but then I added her insta and she had old pics of her from like 2017 and she was legit stunning at 17yo, even tho she looked decent now- it was rage inducing that some other guy who put no effort into looksmaxxing etc like I did got a way better version of her meanwhile after all my hard work I just got the scraps

Made me rage then I stopped talked to her- ironically I would’ve been happy with her looks as they were if it weren’t for the knowledge they used to be way better. She should’ve deleted all her teenage pics tbf

Legit. Girl's standards go up as they get older. So you are not just getting a less attractive girl, you are also having to work harder and show more value to her aswell.

It's such a scam.

I saw one of the guys she dated when she was 16yo and he was just normie-tier, while she was HTB+. I mogged him to shit. But he got a better version of her than I.
Never have I felt like I benefited in any way from a girl being 'more experienced, confident, knowing what she wants, etc.' She probably had a far more empathic, trusting, warmer personality/vibe when she was younger too. Her inexperience makes her more valuable, not less.

Having a girl tell me to slap her and choke her low-key disgusts me as it ruins any innocence I felt she had. Especially once I consider that she's been smacked, choked and fucked rough by many men before me, seeing as she has these preferences.

 

[MoggerGaston]

I have checked the social media of girls I used to be with in highschool and sometimes its stunning how much they can descend in just a few years. From HTB back then to a tier I would not voluntarily touch now. Meanwhile guy usually improve themselves in their early 20s, only to get scraps

Women peak at ~15yo. It's when their puberty ends and their bodily development stops. At 15yo your tits, hourglass figure, etc. is already matured as a woman.

Male puberty lasts longer, untill ~21yo u will still see noticeable improvements.

A lot of women look legit roastie tier at 25yo, when they were extremely hot at 15yo.

 

[MoggerGaston]

i don't get jb obsession most girls look same or better after 20
i would rage if i had to cope with 40 yo completely post wall roasties yes

girls only look better after 20 if their make-up game improves and they start dressing hotter, doing their hair, etc.

But this is rare tbh. I find their natural beauty at 15yo ideal.
Also most importantly I love the innocent look they have at that age.

Above 20yo I know she's been used by far too many men and it shows by the way she looks, facial gestures, etc.

 

[the BULL]

girls only look better after 20 if their make-up game improves and they start dressing hotter, doing their hair, etc.

But this is rare tbh. I find their natural beauty at 15yo ideal.
Also most importantly I love the innocent look they have at that age.

Above 20yo I know she's been used by far too many men and it shows by the way she looks, facial gestures, etc.

Yes they Need to dress slutty, fancy make up and getting a good, thick body. But i legit Need they're hotter After 20 on average. Most girls are softmaxxers and puberty usually ends at around 16. And yes mostly for strs and sex. Idk how to build bond with a girl my Age or even some Years younger, they're all very experienced.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Yes they Need to dress slutty, fancy make up and getting a good, thick body. But i legit Need they're hotter After 20 on average. Most girls are softmaxxers and puberty usually ends at around 16. And yes mostly for strs and sex. Idk how to build bond with a girl my Age or even some Years younger, they're all very experienced.

Yeah for ONS or rough sex, an older girl can be better. Cuz u can fuck her without feelings, just primal. U know she's a whore anyways not worth of LTR. U don't need to care about her pleasure or feelings since u know she just wants to be used.

 

[the BULL]

Yeah for ONS or rough sex, an older girl can be better. Cuz u can fuck her without feelings, just primal. U know she's a whore anyways not worth of LTR. U don't need to care about her pleasure or feelings since u know she just wants to be used.

That's probably how i'll stay bro. Strs and ons. At the end you Will have an old hag in your house. While me as a man can even shoot for 30 yo as a 50 -60 yo looksmaxxer.

 

[Prettyboy]

Legit. Girl's standards go up as they get older. So you are not just getting a less attractive girl, you are also having to work harder and show more value to her aswell.

It's such a scam.

I saw one of the guys she dated when she was 16yo and he was just normie-tier, while she was HTB+. I mogged him to shit. But he got a better version of her than I.
Never have I felt like I benefited in any way from a girl being 'more experienced, confident, knowing what she wants, etc.' She probably had a far more empathic, trusting, warmer personality/vibe when she was younger too. Her inexperience makes her more valuable, not less.

Having a girl tell me to slap her and choke her low-key disgusts me as it ruins any innocence I felt she had. Especially once I consider that she's been smacked, choked and fucked rough by many men before me, seeing as she has these preferences.

That’s the thing. Girls value drops exponentionally as they age

Their physical beauty fades, her skin gets bad, she gets fat, many of them get disgusting tattoos

JBs dont care about money, if you have a car you can already impress them but starting from mid 20s, women become increasingly more demanding of of you having a good career, own place etc.

Their mileage increases with each month. Women are never celibates unless they are severely mentally ill, they always taking dick in one form or another. Practically zero chance of finding a virgin past 20yo nowadays and she will compare your every aspect with all of her past boyfriends. Your height, your dick size, your face, your physique and unless you are the best in everything she will sooner or later bring it up and it’ll hurt like nothing else

Plus add to the list that women are excellent at socializing. They build up a huge social network with time, consisting of multiple layers of simps, backup guys, possible sugar daddies.

 

[MoggerGaston]

That's probably how i'll stay bro. Strs and ons. At the end you Will have an old hag in your house. While me as a man can even shoot for 30 yo as a 50 -60 yo looksmaxxer.

In the end u can escortmax at 60yo and still fuck 20yos tbh. No point in ever settling with an old hag.

Old women add nothing to a man's life except negging and complaining.

 

[the BULL]

That’s the thing. Girls value drops EXPONTENTIALLY as they age

Their physical beauty fades, her skin gets bad, she gets fat, many of them get disgusting tattoos

JBs dont care about money, if you have a car you can already impress them but starting from mid 20s, women become increasingly more demanding of of you having a good career, own place etc.

Their mileage increases with each month. Women are never celibates unless they are severely mentally ill, they always taking dick in one form or another. Practically zero chance of finding a virgin past 20yo nowadays and she will compare your every aspect with all of her past boyfriends. Your height, your dick size, your face, your physique and unless you are the best in everything she will sooner or later bring it up and it’ll hurt like nothing else

Plus add to the list that women are excellent at socializing. They build up a huge social network with time, consisting of multiple layers of simps, backup guys, possible sugar daddies.

Most girls have low laycount anyway. In WE girls fuck 5 times with 5 chads and then settle down.

 

[MoggerGaston]

That’s the thing. Girls value drops EXPONTENTIALLY as they age

Their physical beauty fades, her skin gets bad, she gets fat, many of them get disgusting tattoos

JBs dont care about money, if you have a car you can already impress them but starting from mid 20s, women become increasingly more demanding of of you having a good career, own place etc.

Their mileage increases with each month. Women are never celibates unless they are severely mentally ill, they always taking dick in one form or another. Practically zero chance of finding a virgin past 20yo nowadays and she will compare your every aspect with all of her past boyfriends. Your height, your dick size, your face, your physique and unless you are the best in everything she will sooner or later bring it up and it’ll hurt like nothing else

Plus add to the list that women are excellent at socializing. They build up a huge social network with time, consisting of multiple layers of simps, backup guys, possible sugar daddies.

All of this has been true with every single girl I dated for a longer period of time. On point.

 

[BrendioEEE]

meaning those men must be incel

Don't underestimate snake old men's ability to reel in an underage girl for hedonistic reasons only to create a future non-virgin whore that mentally buck breaks future youngcels. If one young girl doesn't bite, there's plenty of others that might.

 

[Pendejo]

JBs dont care about money, if you have a car you can already impress them but starting from mid 20s, women become increasingly more demanding of of you having a good career, own place etc.

B-b-but @the BULL told me girls don't care about that!

 

[the BULL]

B-b-but @the BULL told me girls don't care about that!

They don't generally. My Brother moved to his gf's Place, didn't have job or Money, and they have been married for 15 Years. She's htb too, not some fat low Becky. And he's a BALDcel. For ONS, It surely doesn't. But It a girl wants Money, then yes, there's no way around, not even chad face can save you.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

I saw jb pics of my gf on her laptop and it's so fucking brutal man

Her fucking subhuman ex got to enjoy her in her prime

 

[Deleted member 25059]

girls only look better after 20 if their make-up game improves and they start dressing hotter, doing their hair, etc.

But this is rare tbh. I find their natural beauty at 15yo ideal.
Also most importantly I love the innocent look they have at that age.

Above 20yo I know she's been used by far too many men and it shows by the way she looks, facial gestures, etc.

indeed op after 25

 

[the BULL]

I saw jb pics of my gf and it's so fucking brutal man

Her fucking ex got to enjoy her in her prime

UK's girls descend too fast they're another case. They're gigastacies in teen - early 20 then they immediately get to old hag phase

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Funny thing is I remember discussing the JBpill with her aswell. And she told me she regularly has 'old men' approach her, ask for her number, etc.

And she thought it was sad since they are 40+ yo and she is disgusted by them. And she can't imagine anyone her age ever dating men like that, meaning those men must be incel.

brutal

At my school my friend's sister (14 year old) was dating a 64 year old

it made the local news and everything but nothing happened to him, the police didn't do shit. My friend's dad was fucking raging

 

[MoggerGaston]

At my school my friend's sister (14 year old) was dating a 64 year old

it made the local news and everything but nothing happened to him, the police didn't do shit. My friend's dad was fucking raging

Very based of the man. Sad it's so rare.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Never mind, I just found the article from 2010

He was 55 and he was sentenced in the end

 

[cytoplasm]

Never mind, I just found the article from 2010

He was 55 and he was sentenced in the end

At my school my friend's sister (14 year old) was dating a 64 year old

it made the local news and everything but nothing happened to him, the police didn't do shit. My friend's dad was fucking raging

Totally worth it

 

[Deleted member 2381]

I rememebr i had a 22yo girl want to meet me off hinge before- she looked pretty dceent, but then I added her insta and she had old pics of her from like 2017 and she was legit stunning at 17yo, even tho she looked decent now- it was rage inducing that some other guy who put no effort into looksmaxxing etc like I did got a way better version of her meanwhile after all my hard work I just got the scraps

This

Makes me fucking rage. I was gymcelling like a dog back then too and I got fucking nothing!! I was a bastard ethnic disgrace that didn't get to experience anything!!

Meanwhile her fucking low IQ neanderthal ex had her in her fucking prime
Even more fucking brutal is that back then she was more fun too. She didn't have to worry about a fucking job, fucking rent and all the other bullshit responsibilities you have post uni. You think she was up all evening catching up on fucking work? Or being stressed all week thinking about wagecucking? She told me they used to skive school a lot too, probably to have sex in the woods or something fuuauuauauuauauauauurrrrrrk!!!!!

Back then everything was new to her. That cunt got to experimenter everythibg sexually with her for the first time. She did everything with him first

I never got any of that

And now I have to suffer with the inferior version both looks and personality

 

[Deleted member 2381]

@6ft4

One of the truest and most brutal threads I've seen on here recently

fml

 

[MoggerGaston]

Even more fucking brutal is that back then she was more fun too. She didn't have to worry about a fucking job, fucking rent and all the other bullshit responsibilities you have post uni. You think she was up all evening catching up on fucking work? Or being stressed all week thinking about wagecucking? She told me they used to skive school a lot too, probably to have sex in the woods or something fuuauuauauuauauauauurrrrrrk!!!!!

That girl was a real workaholic when I dated her at 22yo. Always tired and low-key complaining about being stressed n shit.

Having a LTR while you're (both) wageslaving is very unideal.
Meanwhile imagine having her when you are both going to school/uni where you just fuck around and meet in between classes. Randomly deciding to skip half the day and do some fun shit together in the moment. No consequences.

When you have a real job? Impossible. Work all day and meet at home when you are both tired.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

That girl was a real workaholic when I dated her at 22yo. Always tired and low-key complaining about being stressed n shit.

Having a LTR while you're (both) wageslaving is very unideal.
Meanwhile imagine having her when you are both going to school/uni where you just fuck around and meet in between classes. Randomly deciding to skip half the day and do some fun shit together in the moment. No consequences.

When you have a real job? Impossible. Work all day and meet at home when you are both tired.

Man this is legit making me rage fucking hard

I have to get my payback somehow

 

[infini]

Started reading up to @Prettyboy's rant then this whole thread quickly became Copémon, gotta sadkunt them all.

 

[Prettyboy]

Most girls have low laycount anyway. In WE girls fuck 5 times with 5 chads and then settle down.

Lay count is overemphasized anyways, mileage (the cumulative number of times she has been dicked down through her lifetime) is what matters

Serial monogamists are in many sense worse than promiscous girls. Females usually shrug off guys they had brief sexual relations but not emotional connection with, which is not the case for all in a serious relationship. Their long term boyfriend creampies them multiple time a week for years, how is that any better than her sucking off 5 random guys at a club? Who just vanish anyways, but her ex boyfriends will be always a part of her life because she is tied to them with many shared memories

bonus blackpill, girls always remember the guy that took their virginity, possibly even on their death bed. I have encountered way too many girls whose first was another guy and even though I mogged them hard in every regard , they would still occasionally bring them up - or say things like "I was i could have lost my virginity to you instead ", which further indicates how important the first guy is for them

 

[the BULL]

Lay count is overemphasized anyways, mileage (the cumulative number of times she has been dicked down through her lifetime) is what matters

Serial monogamists are in many sense worse than promiscous girls. Females usually shrug off guys they had brief sexual relations but not emotional connection with, which is not the case for all in a serious relationship. Their long term boyfriend creampies them multiple time a week for years, how is that any better than her sucking off 5 random guys at a club? Who just vanish anyways, but her ex boyfriends will be always a part of her life because she is tied to them with many shared memories

bonus blackpill, girls always remember the guy that took their virginity, possibly even on their death bed. I have encountered way too many girls whose first was another guy and even though I mogged them hard in every regard , they would still occasionally bring them up - or say things like "I was i could have lost my virginity to you instead ", which further indicates how important the first guy is for them

eh this would have been HUGE red flag for me, talking about her exes, my dick wouldn't even have worked. i remember first kiss first slay and everything but i would never bring it up during a convo with a girl. those girls were probably just insecure tbh, if they like you and are not traumatized they won't think about exes

 

[Prettyboy]

eh this would have been HUGE red flag for me, talking about her exes, my dick wouldn't even have worked. i remember first kiss first slay and everything but i would never bring it up during a convo with a girl. those girls were probably just insecure tbh, if they like you and are not traumatized they won't think about exes

It of course is a red flag but I mean that's how the vetting period works. If you are moving toward the direction of an LTR with someone, it is the norm that both side's past get revealed including past partners, as it is a needed step to get to know the other party better. I've yet to meet a girl who didnt say something about their exes at some point

 

[the BULL]

It of course is a red flag but I mean that's how the vetting period works. If you are moving toward the direction of an LTR with someone, it is the norm that both side's past get revealed including past partners, as it is a needed step to get to know the other party better. I've yet to meet a girl who didnt say something about their exes at some point

yeah i don't even try to ltr girls. cannot see the point unless she's in my house and gives me sex 3 times a week. i can find a new girl dtf every other day with OLD anyway. i'm not much better than girls from this perspective. and yes for LTR i would consider only a girl who gives chad treatment, that doesn't care about exes, even if she brings it up it's to belittle him, not to say he was better than me.

 

[Chadethnic101]

Man this is legit making me rage fucking hard

I have to get my payback somehow

U gonna cuck your gf?

 

[cmfanel]

to keep in mind, this is the easiest time to have sex with many multiples of women as a "normal" man since probably the last 10,000 years. in 100 years society will have realized that opening up the pandoras box of female equality (gynocracy), universal suffrage, no fault divorce, and LGBT propaganda have absolutely decimated birth rates and fertility across the world, as hundreds of millions of men have started to come to the same conclusion as this thread: there is no point of marrying and raising children with a woman who is 98% a whore, and as a result traditional patriarchy will reassert itself once demographics have been decimated to the point of no return.

do with this information as you will. my advice is to fuck as many hot women as possible in the west and then find a wife from a rural area that isn't in the west. my wife is 100% not from the west, either from the middle east or eastern Europe. if you seriously think for a single second there is a hot woman in the west who is a suitable mother in this day and age, i have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.

individually you will not change the system, the best thing to do is to plunder it by acquiring as much capital as possible and fucking as many women as possible. finding your 8/10 halal stacy is NOT happening
@forevergymcelling

 

[MoggerGaston]

my advice is to fuck as many hot women as possible in the west

Chad only.

Inceldom has never been more prevalent before than now. I stand no chance

 

[looksmaxmax]

Fucking @MoggerGaston always coming up with the most brutal threads. None of the aforementioned can be denied. Girls in their mid-late 20s are totally worthless. To make matter worse, you don't even feel affection towards her no matter how much kinky (or passionate) the sex is, knowing that she tried all of those acts with her boyfriends prior. All of your libido and bonding instincts are gone once you realize the cruel truth