FRAUDING DOESN'T EXIST (Philosophycels GTFIH)

[marioskbts]

First of all jesterst gtfo, I wrote all ts with Chatgpt, I cant express my self.


What Counts as FRAUDING?

When can we say someone truly looks good?” In reality, the line is subjective and vague. A good haircut can take you from MTN to HTN and vice versa. Bad hair day? You drop looks instantly. That’s why hair gets labeled fraud it’s inconsistent and superficial.

Meanwhile, low body fat is seen as legit, even though it drastically alters your face and physique. Why? Because it takes longer to achieve and decay. But that’s just cope. Both are manipulable variables. Both change perception.

Same with cosmetic procedures. People call fillers “fraud” but say nothing about jaw surgery or rhinoplasty, why? Because fillers dissolve and move. Surgery is seen as permanent. But permanence doesn’t equal honesty, it just means the fraud is better hidden. You’re still altering your face. The only difference is how stable the result is.

Even “stable” features aren’t immune. Bone mass shrinks. Eye sockets widen. Hairline recedes. Looks are a decaying asset. Without constant upkeep, you decline. Your so-called “natural” appearance is just your current arrangement of variables.

Take Ship of Theseus for example. If you improve your haircut, lose fat, fix your skin, align your posture, at what point are you no longer your “true natural” self? It doesn’t matter. People respond to the final product, not the process.

Being “good looking” really just means you stay HTN and above even when unoptimized.

Lesson of the day: Go "fraud" as much as you want.

If you can, fraud the hair every day, inject the fillers every half year or so, keep wearing those height boosters JFL. The result is what matters, and if you can be consistent and maintain it while persuading others. (mainly for appeal btw since you can't "fraud" your own confidence and how you perceive yourself).

(prove me wrong)

 

[jiggy]

I think it’s a joke that Oscar Patel and baby Stickley are demonised while clav a guy who actively destroys the looksmaxxing community and only spreads hate gets to be perceived as a god when he is a Htn who fraudmaxxes openly and can’t hide it at all

 

[marioskbts]

I think it’s a joke that Oscar Patel and baby Stickley are demonised while clav a guy who actively destroys the looksmaxxing community and only spreads hate gets to be perceived as a god when he is a Htn who fraudmaxxes openly and can’t hide it at all

Oscar and stickley don't even compare to Clav they are scammers, liars and they have no knowledge on looksmaxxing. I have mixed opinions on Clav for the most part I like him

 

[looneyy_]

i agree w this to an extent. imo “frauding” is more of a term used to describe short term changes that you can make to your body that are drastically noticeable within the short time period of making those changes. So, fillers would be frauding because you have to get them done again and again and they have pretty much instant results. Only reason I would say other surgeries aren’t frauding is because of the time and *almost* permanent aspect to them. Like you can wake up with the double jaw surgery results every day but say for example, hair, you have to do it every day and put effort into it.

 

[metacognitivist]

Hair can be labeled as fraud if it hides features, say a big forehead or ears

low bf is legit bc its a state achievable naturally, no external modifications made to your body, just your true potential, whereas fillers and the such are external

its really as simple as that

 

[marioskbts]

i agree w this to an extent. imo “frauding” is more of a term used to describe short term changes that you can make to your body that are drastically noticeable within the short time period of making those changes. So, fillers would be frauding because you have to get them done again and again and they have pretty much instant results. Only reason I would say other surgeries aren’t frauding is because of the time and *almost* permanent aspect to them. Like you can wake up with the double jaw surgery results every day but say for example, hair, you have to do it every day and put effort into it.

At what point do you draw the line, its subjective

 

[jiggy]

The thing is 80% of the stuff I did to look better were from Oscar and each one of the techniques I tried did work but it’s my understanding that looksmaxxing is too look better without surgery and clav actively promotes against that while being a hypocrite and a racist.

 

[marioskbts]

Hair can be labeled as fraud if it hides features, say a big forehead or ears

low bf is legit bc its a state achievable naturally, no external modifications made to your body, just your true potential, whereas fillers and the such are external

its really as simple as that

Calling hair "fraud" for hiding flaws but saying low body fat is "legit" because it’s natural is inconsistent. Both change appearance, one just takes longer. If the standard is “no external modification,” then skincare, braces, even gym gains would count as fraud too.

 

[laworg]

First of all jesterst gtfo, I wrote all ts with Chatgpt, I cant express my self.


What Counts as FRAUDING?

When can we say someone truly looks good?” In reality, the line is subjective and vague. A good haircut can take you from MTN to HTN and vice versa. Bad hair day? You drop looks instantly. That’s why hair gets labeled fraud it’s inconsistent and superficial.

Meanwhile, low body fat is seen as legit, even though it drastically alters your face and physique. Why? Because it takes longer to achieve and decay. But that’s just cope. Both are manipulable variables. Both change perception.

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Same with cosmetic procedures. People call fillers “fraud” but say nothing about jaw surgery or rhinoplasty, why? Because fillers dissolve and move. Surgery is seen as permanent. But permanence doesn’t equal honesty, it just means the fraud is better hidden. You’re still altering your face. The only difference is how stable the result is.

Even “stable” features aren’t immune. Bone mass shrinks. Eye sockets widen. Hairline recedes. Looks are a decaying asset. Without constant upkeep, you decline. Your so-called “natural” appearance is just your current arrangement of variables.

Take Ship of Theseus for example. If you improve your haircut, lose fat, fix your skin, align your posture, at what point are you no longer your “true natural” self? It doesn’t matter. People respond to the final product, not the process.

Being “good looking” really just means you stay HTN and above even when unoptimized.

Lesson of the day: Go "fraud" as much as you want.

If you can, fraud the hair every day, inject the fillers every half year or so, keep wearing those height boosters JFL. The result is what matters, and if you can be consistent and maintain it while persuading others. (mainly for appeal btw since you can't "fraud" your own confidence and how you perceive yourself).

(prove me wrong)

Ehh u could make urself better while u dont look like that irl but put bo2cel in the same lighting and u wont get the same looks so if someone looks good frauding he also looks good normally

 

[marioskbts]

Ehh u could make urself better while u dont look like that irl but put bo2cel in the same lighting and u wont get the same looks so if someone looks good frauding he also looks good normally

Lowkey

 

[laworg]

Lowkey

Good thread btw

 

[Restitutor Orbis]

I consider anything that's external and not socially accepted, like shoe lifts, roids or implants as fraud. Anything that comes from maxxing out your natty potential is completely legit. Nobody irl looks at you weird for changing your hair, but everyone will laugh at you if they find out about your 2" shoe lifts or your peptide stack

 

[marioskbts]

The thing is 80% of the stuff I did to look better were from Oscar and each one of the techniques I tried did work but it’s my understanding that looksmaxxing is too look better without surgery and clav actively promotes against that while being a hypocrite and a racist.

I can't name 2 things oscar teaches other than thumb pulling and chin tucks. They're are soft softmaxxes and it's not the solution to most people unlike surgery which can actively improve your life quality. About him being racist that's why I said I have mixed opinions but we all throw a nigga here and a nigga there.

 

[marioskbts]

I consider anything that's external and not socially accepted, like shoe lifts, roids or implants as fraud. Anything that comes from maxxing out your natty potential is completely legit. Nobody irl looks at you weird for changing your hair, but everyone will laugh at you if they find out about your 2" shoe lifts or your peptide stack

Yeah tbh it comes down to what's socially acceptable. Some are debatable, I don't think most people would regard peptides as fraud because they still respect their result. It's not like they ll see you a year later, ascended, and think oh he somehow frauded it. Shoe lifts tho yeah

 

[looneyy_]

At what point do you draw the line, its subjective

makeup, hair, height boosters etc are frauding. Fillers are like right on the border for me cuz they last a bit but like still it’s not a permanent solution whereas rhino your nose is pretty much permanently like that unless you get hit there or smt

 

[metacognitivist]

Calling hair "fraud" for hiding flaws but saying low body fat is "legit" because it’s natural is inconsistent. Both change appearance, one just takes longer. If the standard is “no external modification,” then skincare, braces, even gym gains would count as fraud too.

It's fraud not because it changes your appearance but because it changes it in a way that hides undesirable features

Low body fat does not hide flaws, it essentially removes the flaw(high bf) from its core while staying true to ones' potential

Skincare,braces and gym are technically not external, You reach it externally but its achieved internally in the end, e.g. your OWN skin getting healthier by skincare, your OWN, natural teeth changing via braces. Whereas say something like lip filler, you do not have it naturally, the image you created is not something you reached through your own potential, its' like a cheat code and why it leans towards frauding is precisely because you are not actually in this state naturally, but through other means, although i do think some surgeries and the like are not frauding i just think this is how frauding generally is perceived

 

[aids]

Goated thread.

 

[Dastan]

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