Front View: Recessed vs Forward-Grown Bones

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Recessed 4 better eyebrows
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watch his bones grow forwards
 
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terrible photoshop skills
 
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I think it's a respectable attempt to morph class 3 malocclusion given the few tools us amateur guys who morph faces have. a couple details he could've added to make the maxilla appear more visibly recessed is a downturned nose and a narrower interalar distance due to an elevated and supportless alar base, maybe, but it's not that needed and he did a really good job (perhaps he should've left the eye area alone, not all class 3-cels have an affected eye area, and defo almost none have that degree of recession there unless they're syndromic). And that would be to represent a picture perfect exclusively receded maxilla. In reality there's a lot of variation between recessed maxillacels, with many having messed up occlusal planes, large lower jaws on top of the receded maxilla, different degrees of maxilla recession and recession in different dimensions (anteroposterior or craniocaudal), and a long etc.

Anyway I think the best way to demonstrate what a receded maxilla looks like are orthognatic surgery before and afters for class 3 malocclusion, because it doesn't get realer than that:
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As you can see there's a lot of variation amongst these guys I posted, everyone has a different combination of deformities, hell, there's even recessedmaxillacels that also have a vertical maxillary excess, like this guy:

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(Brady shepherd on YouTube).

I actually have a massive gallery of class 3 malocclusioncels with different accompanying deformities and severities that I send to people with class 3 on this forum who ask me what change to expect after their surgery.

Anyway, he made a good attempt, I actually liked it a lot, he took into account the lack of paranasal support, the retraction and curvature of the upper lip, etc, it's just that it's really hard to morph this kind of deformity, I tried to do undo class 3 for @subhumanchad and got a decent result but it was far from perfect, and he's one of the only class3cels I managed to morph to a decent standard:

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Also, again, there's such a wide variety of types and degrees of severity of class 3, hell, some guys almost look normal, like this guy I diagnosed recently:
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(pictures were posted publicly, credit: @rc201 )
He mostly looks flat faced and it takes a relatively trained eye to notice it's over for him.
 
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