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How hairloss occurs (dht)
Before we can stop our hairloss we must first understand how it occurs in the first place. Testosterone is converted into Dihydrotestosterone (dht) via the 5 a reductase enzyme. Dht then binds to the Hair Follicle Androgen Receptors which over time miniaturizes the hair follicle and shortens the anagen phase (Growth phase) and lengthens the telogen phase (resting phase).
Dht also reduces the production of growth factors such as VEGF and igf-1 in the hair follicle. Over time this leads hairloss.

5-ARIs(stop coping )
5 a reductase inhibitors bind the 5 a reductase enzyme preventing the conversion of testosterone into (DHT) Dihydrotestosterone stopping your hair folicles from getting raped.
These are absolutely essential for a solid hairloss protocol because without blocking dht you will not stop thinning.
There are 2 oral dht blockers you can take: finasteride and Dutustride

finasteride
  • Finasteride selectively inhibits Type 2 dht
  • Its been shown in clinical trials to reduce serum dht level by 60-70% PubMed :https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10495374/
  • Half life: Short half life of 5 to 8 hours
  • You should always start with finastride first over dutasteride because of the shorter halflife. Finastride will leave your blood stream much faster if you need to stop taking it compared to dutustride
  • Overall a very effective treatment for blocking dht
Dosing
  • use 1mg of finasteride daily
Side effects
  • Decreased libido
  • Erectile dysfunction
  • Reduced ejaculatory volume
  • Mood changes / depression / brain fog (rare)
  • Gynecomastia (rare)
  • Fatigue (rare)
  • Post-Finasteride Syndrome (very rare)
dutasteride
  • Dutasteride inhibits both Type 1 and Type 2 dht, making it a more complete DHT suppressor than finasteride
  • It has been shown in clinical trials to reduce serum DHT levels by 90-95% PubMed:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17189955/
Half-life
  • Extremely long half-life 4–5 weeks
  • Stays in the body for months after your last dose
Because dutasteride also inhibits type 1 dht it is a better option for people who are extremely acne prone
  • DHT increases sebum production and enlarges sebaceous glands which causes acne, blocking type 1 dht stops dht from raping your skin
Dosing
  • Start at .5mg and work your way up to 2.5 mg if tolerated
  • Why 2.5 mg? 2.5 mg dutasteride has been shown in studies to be superior to .5mg (no shit taking more leads to stronger dht suppression:forcedsmile:)
Side effects
  • Decreased libido (slightly higher rate than finasteride)
  • Erectile dysfunction
  • Reduced ejaculatory volume
  • Mood changes / depression / brain fog (rare)
  • Gynecomastia (rare but more common than finasteride)
  • Fatigue (rare)
  • Long-lasting sides due to long half-life
Hairloss under 18:lul: (ru-58841)
  • Dht is essential during puberty and its a great looksmin to block dht during development, however there is a way to stop dht from raping your hair follicles
  • Ru-58841 is a topical anti-androgen which competes with dht at the hair folicle to stop dht from binding to your follicles and raping it
  • This is an effective treatment if you are too young to take dht blockers
Dosing
  • 50-100mg daily
I personally use ru-58841 and have seen great results. Ideally i can wait till i am at least 17 to start dht blockers because then my development will be mostly over (brutal genetics ik😭)

Sides

  • Mild scalp irritation
  • Systemic Side Effects (uncommon but definitely possible)
  • Unknown / Long-Term Effects:forcedsmile:
  • Your good unless ts gets absorbed systemically
ketoconazole shampoo
  • ketoconazole shampoo (2%) has been shown to slightly reduce scalp dht levels, it won't make a huge difference but i think it is definitely worth adding in a hairloss protocol
  • ketoconazole also reduces sebum production, inflammation and has antifungal properties
Dosing
  • Use 2-3x a week
Growth agents
Now that we have covered how to stop hairloss we need to introduce growth agents to actually regrow our hair

Topical/Oral minoxidil (oral mogs)
  • Widens blood vessels in the scalp leading to better nutrient and oxygen delivery to follicles
  • Prolongs the anagen (growth) phase of hair
Dosing
  • 2.5-5mg (2.5 mg is usually sufficient)
  • Topical apply once a day and use 5-10% minoxidil
Ghk-cu
  • Upregulates VEGF
  • Promotes more blood flow to follicles
  • Better nutrient and oxygen delivery
  • Increase collagen and elastin production
Dosing
  • 2-5mg a day, also make sure to supplement zinc to avoid copper toxicity
Personally i've noticed when i'm using ghk-cu my hair growth crazy fast

Microneedling ( dont use a derma roller)

  • Creates tiny micro trauma in the scalp which triggers the body's natural healing process and growth factors
  • Needle length: 1mm-1.5mm (i prefer 1mm needle length)
  • Frequency: 1x a week
  • Wait 24-48 hours after treatment to apply topicals like ru-58841 and topical minoxidil
Ideal hairloss stack
2.5mg dut
50-100mg ru-58841 (may be needed if running androgens)
2.5mg oral min
5mg ghk-cu
ketoconazole shampoo 2-3x a week
Microneedling 1x a week

First guide:forcedsmile:
 
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Ai slop
 
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helpful thread ty
 
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5mg injectable a day? I've been doing 3mg a day for the past 2 weeks
 
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5mg injectable a day? I've been doing 3mg a day for the past 2 weeks
anything 2mg + youll still see results from. 5mg is better tho
 
How hairloss occurs (dht)
Before we can stop our hairloss we must first understand how it occurs in the first place. Testosterone is converted into Dihydrotestosterone (dht) via the 5 a reductase enzyme. Dht then binds to the Hair Follicle Androgen Receptors which over time miniaturizes the hair follicle and shortens the anagen phase (Growth phase) and lengthens the telogen phase (resting phase).
Dht also reduces the production of growth factors such as VEGF and igf-1 in the hair follicle. Over time this leads hairloss.

5-ARIs(stop coping )
5 a reductase inhibitors bind the 5 a reductase enzyme preventing the conversion of testosterone into (DHT) Dihydrotestosterone stopping your hair folicles from getting raped.
These are absolutely essential for a solid hairloss protocol because without blocking dht you will not stop thinning.
There are 2 oral dht blockers you can take: finasteride and Dutustride

finasteride
  • Finasteride selectively inhibits Type 2 dht
  • Its been shown in clinical trials to reduce serum dht level by 60-70% PubMed :https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10495374/
  • Half life: Short half life of 5 to 8 hours
  • You should always start with finastride first over dutasteride because of the shorter halflife. Finastride will leave your blood stream much faster if you need to stop taking it compared to dutustride
  • Overall a very effective treatment for blocking dht
Dosing
  • use 1mg of finasteride daily
Side effects
  • Decreased libido
  • Erectile dysfunction
  • Reduced ejaculatory volume
  • Mood changes / depression / brain fog (rare)
  • Gynecomastia (rare)
  • Fatigue (rare)
  • Post-Finasteride Syndrome (very rare)
dutasteride
  • Dutasteride inhibits both Type 1 and Type 2 dht, making it a more complete DHT suppressor than finasteride
  • It has been shown in clinical trials to reduce serum DHT levels by 90-95% PubMed:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17189955/
Half-life
  • Extremely long half-life 4–5 weeks
  • Stays in the body for months after your last dose
Because dutasteride also inhibits type 1 dht it is a better option for people who are extremely acne prone
  • DHT increases sebum production and enlarges sebaceous glands which causes acne, blocking type 1 dht stops dht from raping your skin
Dosing
  • Start at .5mg and work your way up to 2.5 mg if tolerated
  • Why 2.5 mg? 2.5 mg dutasteride has been shown in studies to be superior to .5mg (no shit taking more leads to stronger dht suppression:forcedsmile:)
Side effects
  • Decreased libido (slightly higher rate than finasteride)
  • Erectile dysfunction
  • Reduced ejaculatory volume
  • Mood changes / depression / brain fog (rare)
  • Gynecomastia (rare but more common than finasteride)
  • Fatigue (rare)
  • Long-lasting sides due to long half-life
Hairloss under 18:lul: (ru-58841)
  • Dht is essential during puberty and its a great looksmin to block dht during development, however there is a way to stop dht from raping your hair follicles
  • Ru-58841 is a topical anti-androgen which competes with dht at the hair folicle to stop dht from binding to your follicles and raping it
  • This is an effective treatment if you are too young to take dht blockers
Dosing
  • 50-100mg daily
I personally use ru-58841 and have seen great results. Ideally i can wait till i am at least 17 to start dht blockers because then my development will be mostly over (brutal genetics ik😭)

Sides

  • Mild scalp irritation
  • Systemic Side Effects (uncommon but definitely possible)
  • Unknown / Long-Term Effects:forcedsmile:
  • Your good unless ts gets absorbed systemically
ketoconazole shampoo
  • ketoconazole shampoo (2%) has been shown to slightly reduce scalp dht levels, it won't make a huge difference but i think it is definitely worth adding in a hairloss protocol
  • ketoconazole also reduces sebum production, inflammation and has antifungal properties
Dosing
  • Use 2-3x a week
Growth agents
Now that we have covered how to stop hairloss we need to introduce growth agents to actually regrow our hair

Topical/Oral minoxidil (oral mogs)
  • Widens blood vessels in the scalp leading to better nutrient and oxygen delivery to follicles
  • Prolongs the anagen (growth) phase of hair
Dosing
  • 2.5-5mg (2.5 mg is usually sufficient)
  • Topical apply once a day and use 5-10% minoxidil
Ghk-cu
  • Upregulates VEGF
  • Promotes more blood flow to follicles
  • Better nutrient and oxygen delivery
  • Increase collagen and elastin production
Dosing
  • 2-5mg a day, also make sure to supplement zinc to avoid copper toxicity
Personally i've noticed when i'm using ghk-cu my hair growth crazy fast

Microneedling ( dont use a derma roller)

  • Creates tiny micro trauma in the scalp which triggers the body's natural healing process and growth factors
  • Needle length: 1mm-1.5mm (i prefer 1mm needle length)
  • Frequency: 1x a week
  • Wait 24-48 hours after treatment to apply topicals like ru-58841 and topical minoxidil
Ideal hairloss stack
2.5mg dut
50-100mg ru-58841 (may be needed if running androgens)
2.5mg oral min
5mg ghk-cu
ketoconazole shampoo 2-3x a week
Microneedling 1x a week

First guide:forcedsmile:
how severe is your hairloss ? how long have you been using ru58841 and how effective has it been ?
 
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how severe is your hairloss ? how long have you been using ru58841 and how effective has it been ?
i was abt noorwood 1.5 with diffuse thinning, i added 2.5mg oral minoxidil and ru-58841 about 4 months ago and i have completely stoped shedding and seen crazy regrowth.
 
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i was abt noorwood 1.5 with diffuse thinning, i added 2.5mg oral minoxidil and ru-58841 about 4 months ago and i have completely stoped shedding and seen crazy regrowth.
wdym added ? were you on sth else previously ?
 
i was abt noorwood 1.5 with diffuse thinning, i added 2.5mg oral minoxidil and ru-58841 about 4 months ago and i have completely stoped shedding and seen crazy regrowth.
where do you get your ru from? i need it badly
 
DHT is only needed for penile growth and beard growth

other than that its useless your structure and height is all by testortone
 
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