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TLDR: Hardmaxxing is not cope, it’s permanent, high-risk optimization that can be transformative only after full softmaxxing, but will permanently worsen your appearance if misapplied or rushed.
If you haven’t:
Fully softmaxxed
Reached your natural ceiling
Lived with your baseline for years
Then you have no business Hardmaxxing
What Is Hardmaxxing?
Hardmaxxing = invasive, medical, or pharmacological interventions that permanently alter:
This is last-resort optimization, not step one.
Thank you for reading my hardmaxxing guide. Remember to always softmaxx first.
ITS NEVER OVER
Please tag as many ppl as possible, this is my second high iq post as a grey.
If you haven’t:
Fully softmaxxed
Reached your natural ceiling
Lived with your baseline for years
Then you have no business Hardmaxxing
What Is Hardmaxxing?
Hardmaxxing = invasive, medical, or pharmacological interventions that permanently alter:
- Bone
- Cartilage
- Hormonal environment
- Facial structure
This is last-resort optimization, not step one.
PHARMACOLOGICAL HARDMAXXING
Steroids / Anabolics (High Impact, High Risk)
Steroids do have a low change of change in facial bone structure directly, but they can alter secondary traits that affect perceived masculinity and presence easily.
Potential effects on appearance
Steroids are a facial looksmax solution, they’re also a body dominance amplifier that can spill into facial perception.
Growth Hormone (GH)
Often misunderstood.
What it can affect:
(ONLY IN PUBERTY WITH AN AI it can change height or bidelt)
Steroids / Anabolics (High Impact, High Risk)
Steroids do have a low change of change in facial bone structure directly, but they can alter secondary traits that affect perceived masculinity and presence easily.
Potential effects on appearance
- Increased muscle mass → frame dominance
- Lower perceived bodyfat (if diet is aligned)
- Fuller jaw/masseter look from muscle hypertrophy
- More mature, “hardened” facial appearance in some users
Steroids are a facial looksmax solution, they’re also a body dominance amplifier that can spill into facial perception.
Growth Hormone (GH)
Often misunderstood.
What it can affect:
- Skin thickness
- Tissue fullness
- Healing and recovery
- Long-term structural changes only at abuse levels
(ONLY IN PUBERTY WITH AN AI it can change height or bidelt)
SURGICAL HARDMAXXING (BONE & CARTILAGE)
1. Bimaxillary Advancement (Bimax)
Top-tier skeletal hardmaxx.
What it addresses:
Results:
2. Rhinoplasty (Rhino)
One of the highest leverage facial surgeries.
What it changes:
A good nose won’t save a bad face — but a bad nose can ruin a good one.
Subtle > aggressive.
3. Genioplasty (Chin Surgery)
Used when:
Can:
Works best as a targeted correction, not a standalone miracle.
4. Jaw (gonial) Angle Implants
Adds width and angularity.
Effects:
Risk:
5. Cheek Implants / Midface Implants
Used for:
High uncanny risk if misused.
Often inferior to skeletal correction when applicable.
1. Bimaxillary Advancement (Bimax)
Top-tier skeletal hardmaxx.
What it addresses:
- Midface retrusion
- Weak jaw projection
- Poor facial balance
- Airway issues (often medical + aesthetic)
- Stronger jaw
- Better facial harmony
- Improved side profile
- Can be transformative if correctly indicated
Results:
2. Rhinoplasty (Rhino)
One of the highest leverage facial surgeries.
What it changes:
- Facial balance
- Side profile harmony
- Front-view symmetry
A good nose won’t save a bad face — but a bad nose can ruin a good one.
Subtle > aggressive.
3. Genioplasty (Chin Surgery)
Used when:
- Chin projection is the main weak point
- Jaw is otherwise acceptable
Can:
- Improve lower third balance
- Enhance profile
- Avoid full jaw surgery in some cases
Works best as a targeted correction, not a standalone miracle.
4. Jaw (gonial) Angle Implants
Adds width and angularity.
Effects:
- Stronger lower face
- More masculine silhouette
Risk:
- Can look uncanny if overdone
- Needs perfect sizing and placement
5. Cheek Implants / Midface Implants
Used for:
- Severe flatness
- Post-trauma or congenital issues
High uncanny risk if misused.
Often inferior to skeletal correction when applicable.
OTHER HARDMAXX ADJACENT OPTIONS
Hair Transplant
Not bone-related, but:
Permanent Fillers / Fat Transfer
WORKS BEST ON INFRAORBITALS IF THEY ARE RECCESSED
Borderline hardmaxx.
Can:
Improve contour
Can also:
Hair Transplant
Not bone-related, but:
- Massively impacts framing
- Can change perceived age and SMV drastically
Permanent Fillers / Fat Transfer
WORKS BEST ON INFRAORBITALS IF THEY ARE RECCESSED
Borderline hardmaxx.
Can:
Improve contour
- Restore volume
Can also:
- Distort facial harmony
- Migrate or age poorly
Thank you for reading my hardmaxxing guide. Remember to always softmaxx first.
ITS NEVER OVER
Please tag as many ppl as possible, this is my second high iq post as a grey.
