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No you don't PCT after a singular cycle with a test base. You "blast" and cruise, Testosterone is a life-long commitment.
No you can't take anything for height. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH grew roughly 2-5cm MAX.
No you can't take anything for bone mass. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH had NO significant changes. (Note: it is POSSIBLE when inducing acromegaly but you will not only see changes in the mandible as you would want)
No growth hormone secretagogue's are not better than HGH or even compare. In studies with moderate doses of gh secretagogue's they have translated to <1iu of pharmaceutical growth hormone.
No you shouldn't inhibit estrogen to keep growth plates open. Estrogen is CRUCIAL for development notably bone mass (ironic) and brain development.
No you shouldn't start with 500 test. You should start with TRT doses to gauge your aromatization.
No you shouldn't pin testosterone once a week. You NEED to pin testosterone 3x a week MINIMUM for remotely stable levels. (2x will barely work)
No you shouldn't run Anavar. Gives minimal gains for an intense lipid profile and harsh liver strain, the whole dry effect goes away immediately off cycle.
No you shouldn't run SARMs. HORRIBLE lipid/liver to gains tradeoff. There may be upcoming exceptions, LGD4 COULD be solid.
No you won't go infertile from test. 99% (not an actual measure) of people will be able to use HCG or other fertility boosting peptides to maintain or bring back fertility while staying on test.

Debatable: EQ/Primo/Mast is better than a AI. AI's induce extra cardiovascular strain for no extra benefit.


Hopefully this covers some of the common misconceptions or propaganda pushed by these peptide brands. Always do your OWN research before taking something.

Questions? Critiques?
Don't just ask for my citations, cite one that would oppose.
 
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No you don't PCT after a singular cycle with a test base. You "blast" and cruise, Testosterone is a life-long commitment.
No you can't take anything for height. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH grew roughly 2-5cm MAX.
No you can't take anything for bone mass. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH had NO significant changes. (Note: it is POSSIBLE when inducing acromegaly but you will not only see changes in the mandible as you would want)
No growth hormone secretagogue's are not better than HGH or even compare. In studies with moderate doses of gh secretagogue's they have translated to <1iu of pharmaceutical growth hormone.
No you shouldn't inhibit estrogen to keep growth plates open. Estrogen is CRUCIAL for development notably bone mass (ironic) and brain development.
No you shouldn't start with 500 test. You should start with TRT doses to gauge your aromatization.
No you shouldn't pin testosterone once a week. You NEED to pin testosterone 3x a week MINIMUM for remotely stable levels. (2x will barely work)
No you shouldn't run Anavar. Gives minimal gains for an intense lipid profile and harsh liver strain, the whole dry effect goes away immediately off cycle.
No you shouldn't run SARMs. HORRIBLE lipid/liver to gains tradeoff. There may be upcoming exceptions, LGD4 COULD be solid.
No you won't go infertile from test. 99% (not an actual measure) of people will be able to use HCG or other fertility boosting peptides to maintain or bring back fertility while staying on test.

Debatable: EQ/Primo/Mast is better than a AI. AI's induce extra cardiovascular strain for no extra benefit.


Hopefully this covers some of the common misconceptions or propaganda pushed by these peptide brands. Always do your OWN research before taking something.

Questions? Critiques?
Don't just ask for my citations, cite one that would oppose.
.com for ratings (women there)
.org for for surgical or cosmetic procedure advice
mesorx for roiding advice
/offtopic for shitposting

and life is complete.
 
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high iq
 
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.com for ratings (women there)
.org for for surgical or cosmetic procedure advice
mesorx for roiding advice
/offtopic for shitposting

and life is complete.
this is actually rlly smart tbh maybe .com isnt useless at all
 
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No you can't take anything for height. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH grew roughly 2-5cm MAX.
2-5cm is 0.8-2 inches and this is a mean. Some people will be better responders and perhaps grow even 4 inches or even higher.

Besides 2 inches is not a joke. That's 5'8 -> 5'10 or 6'0 -> 6'2.

Different lifes
 
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Good thread
Most of it is things greys say tho
 
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.com for ratings (women there)
.org for for surgical or cosmetic procedure advice
mesorx for roiding advice
/offtopic for shitposting

and life is complete.
You have to be selective with the advice you take on Meso-rx. Because they are all boomer roiders without looks in mind. These guys are dumbasses with body dysmorphia some of them are like 220 lbs lean and still blasting steroids at 40 years old with no hair. Many of them have genuine mental illness
 
2-5cm is 0.8-2 inches and this is a mean. Some people will be better responders and perhaps grow even 4 inches or even higher.

Besides 2 inches is not a joke. That's 5'8 -> 5'10 or 6'0 -> 6'2.

Different lifes
Good point but my main argument is you should not take it EXPECTING height. 2 Inches seems to be on the much better end, more inches seems like a stretch especially 4 inches. I'll see if I can find a more accurate mean but it does not seem like it would be 2 inches.
 
No you don't PCT after a singular cycle with a test base. You "blast" and cruise, Testosterone is a life-long commitment.
No you can't take anything for height. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH grew roughly 2-5cm MAX.
No you can't take anything for bone mass. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH had NO significant changes. (Note: it is POSSIBLE when inducing acromegaly but you will not only see changes in the mandible as you would want)
No growth hormone secretagogue's are not better than HGH or even compare. In studies with moderate doses of gh secretagogue's they have translated to <1iu of pharmaceutical growth hormone.
No you shouldn't inhibit estrogen to keep growth plates open. Estrogen is CRUCIAL for development notably bone mass (ironic) and brain development.
No you shouldn't start with 500 test. You should start with TRT doses to gauge your aromatization.
No you shouldn't pin testosterone once a week. You NEED to pin testosterone 3x a week MINIMUM for remotely stable levels. (2x will barely work)
No you shouldn't run Anavar. Gives minimal gains for an intense lipid profile and harsh liver strain, the whole dry effect goes away immediately off cycle.
No you shouldn't run SARMs. HORRIBLE lipid/liver to gains tradeoff. There may be upcoming exceptions, LGD4 COULD be solid.
No you won't go infertile from test. 99% (not an actual measure) of people will be able to use HCG or other fertility boosting peptides to maintain or bring back fertility while staying on test.

Debatable: EQ/Primo/Mast is better than a AI. AI's induce extra cardiovascular strain for no extra benefit.


Hopefully this covers some of the common misconceptions or propaganda pushed by these peptide brands. Always do your OWN research before taking something.

Questions? Critiques?
Don't just ask for my citations, cite one that would oppose.
You contribute to the gear info being shit
 
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Most the roiding info i’ve heard here is complete shit, including a lot of yours from what I’ve come across in random threads.

This thread seems ok for the most part.

No you shouldn't inhibit estrogen to keep growth plates open.
You use a non steroidal AI.

No you can't take anything for height. In studies non-gh deficient adolescents taking HGH grew roughly 2-5cm MAX.
Worth trying if you are young enough.

No you shouldn't start with 500 test.
:feelsuhh: Yes, yes you should. Titrating is a fucking meme. I can guarantee 99% of people don’t need any AI on 500mg Test if they are pinning frequently enough (I didn’t even need any on a gram a week). You should have appropriate ancillaries to deal with any potential sides anyway.

Debatable: EQ/Primo/Mast is better than a AI
Only correct on the case of boldenone.

No you don't PCT after a singular cycle with a test base. You "blast" and cruise, Testosterone is a life-long commitment.
B&C is ideal, not mandatory. Restoring endogenous production isn’t an issue. + PCT is a meme even if you are coming off to not go back on. HCG on cycle, that’s it.

mesorx for roiding advice
Meso is decent for sources, nothing else. Just a bunch of ChatGPT regurgitating retards.
 
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.com for ratings (women there)
.org for for surgical or cosmetic procedure advice
mesorx for roiding advice
/offtopic for shitposting

and life is complete.
I love mesorx but theres just so many "alpha" idiots
 
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Completely agree. I’m on 125 test, 300 tren rn.
 

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