Genioplasty would be huge

[Tryingmyverybest]

From cuckcel to decent Instantly...chin projection is soo brudal.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Yes, go book your genioplasty.
Depending on the facial convexity angles you could perhaps even go for a larger genioplasty, your lip positions certainly support it.

 

[yussimania]

still a cuck

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

still a cuck

K bro show yourself then. Any valid foundation for your opinion? Sry I can't take you that serious.

 

[TheNextOPry]

K bro show yourself then. Any valid foundation for your opinion? Sry I can't take you that serious.

hair and eye area giving cuck

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

Yes, go book your genioplasty.
Depending on the facial convexity angles you could perhaps even go for a larger genioplasty, your lip positions certainly support it.

You might be right actually but i'll have it planned exactly by a surgeon later anyways this was just a badly morphed concept

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

hair and eye area giving cuck

Not everyone squintmaxxes to death and im still T1 EAR and Nasofrontal

 

[yussimania]

K bro show yourself then. Any valid foundation for your opinion? Sry I can't take you that serious.

literally the smallest difference ever it would not be worth the thousands and i don't need to show my face in order for my opinion to be correct dumbass

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

literally the smallest difference ever it would not be worth the thousands and i don't need to show my face in order for my opinion to be correct dumbass

You are right in that I didnt morph enough however you could have said that directly instead of attacking me. Thats just annoying and useless for me.

 

[yussimania]

You are right in that I didnt morph enough however you could have said that directly instead of attacking me. Thats just annoying and useless for me.

sorry

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

sorry

Bro im already suifueled enough, thats all

 

[vermicel]

I didnt morph enough

How old are you ?
What's your current bf % (approx. ; or height & weight) ?
Can you share your front profile, to see what you're really playing with and how to optimize it ?

Right now, your priority should be softmaxxing. Clear your skin, and achieve a smooth texture (with the help of tretinoin, and lasers if need be). Dye your eyebrows in a darker shade ; not too dark obviously ; let's say light-mid brown. So your lateral eyebrow will frame your eyes better. You seem to have a striking eye color with a strong limbal ring, and more generally a solid eye region, so you want to bring this feature out with good eyebrows.
You have nice hair, but need to find a better style.
Also, shave whatever vellus hair seems to be growing on the lower part of your face. Better clean shaven than with a low t beard.

Then, based on this side profile pic, I would suggest more than a plain genioplasty. There seems to be an issue with your jaw. When you get to consult a surgeon and can back up the analysis with a CT scan, pay close attention to your dental occlusion and jaw projection. I won't be surprised if you end up being a bimax candidate. Or trimax, should I say, because genioplasty will certainly be necessary.
Besides your jaw and chin, I believe your nose would need quite a bit of work, including a columella graft and a tip graft for augmented forward projection.

In the morph below, I cleared your skin, dyed your lateral eyebrow, grafted your columella and nose tip, smoothened the dorsum, rotated the nose tip, projected the maxilla a tiny bit forward, projected the mandible forward (BSSO), fixed the lip seal & downturned commissure, colored your lips in a redder tinge, and repositioned the chin. The BSSO and genio should correct your submental region, at least in part.

As you can see, these changes add up and generate a significant improvement to your side profile. I think the "after" is actually pretty harmonious and good-looking.

 

[vermicel]

@Tryingmyverybest Ok, I found your age (18), and a front profile pic in your post history. You also said in another thread that you were overweight. If that is still relevant, add weight loss to the list of softmaxxes.

The front profile pic confirms that you absolutely need a rhinoplasty to improve your facial harmony as a whole. A genioplasty won't be enough, and a trimax neither.
I think most of my comments about your side profile were valid and do apply to your front profile as well.
So, on top of the softmaxxes listed ealier, I can definitely see a trimax and a rhino as strong requisites for an ascension.
Your eye region is strong, as suspected. Sure, the IPF and ESR may not be ideal (I haven't measured them), but everything else is solid, and clearly an asset to your looks.
Actually, your zygos are so wide that you may consider bone shaving (ironic, when most men lack zygomatic projection ...). The thing is, your bigonial width cannot and should not match your bizygomatic width, or else you would end up with an extremely blocky head.
It seems your ears are protruding, which would be a significant issue, as this would add up with your already extreme zygo lateral projection. If confirmed, add an otoplasty to the list of hardmaxxes. No big deal, it's safe, cheap, and a walk in the park (compared to a trimax).
Your narrow lips are going to hold you back (in terms of looks), and there's unfortunately not much you can reasonably do about that. Although the rhinoplasty will probably improve harmony in that region (think of mouth-to-nose width ratio). You will have to settle for a chin that is not too wide, as it would look off balance with the mouth otherwise.
Finally, you may need a bit of fillers to square the chin off and flare gonial angles out. You'll have to reassess post-trimax. Once again, no big deal, and, when time comes, you may not even feel the need for it (from a psychological standpoint).

All in all, your looks could be vastly improved in just a couple of years from now. If you have the funds for surgeries, and the discipline to commit, that is. This perspective alone should put an end to any suifueling.

Front profile morph :

 

[amineamine00]

@Tryingmyverybest Ok, I found your age (18), and a front profile pic in your post history. You also said in another thread that you were overweight. If that is still relevant, add weight loss to the list of softmaxxes.

The front profile pic confirms that you absolutely need a rhinoplasty to improve your facial harmony as a whole. A genioplasty won't be enough, and a trimax neither.
I think most of my comments about your side profile were valid and do apply to your front profile as well.
So, on top of the softmaxxes listed ealier, I can definitely see a trimax and a rhino as strong requisites for an ascension.
Your eye region is strong, as suspected. Sure, the IPF and ESR may not be ideal (I haven't measured them), but everything else is solid, and clearly an asset to your looks.
Actually, your zygos are so wide that you may consider bone shaving (ironic, when most men lack zygomatic projection ...). The thing is, your bigonial width cannot and should not match your bizygomatic width, or else you would end up with an extremely blocky head.
It seems your ears are protruding, which would be a significant issue, as this would add up with your already extreme zygo lateral projection. If confirmed, add an otoplasty to the list of hardmaxxes. No big deal, it's safe, cheap, and a walk in the park (compared to a trimax).
Your narrow lips are going to hold you back (in terms of looks), and there's unfortunately not much you can reasonably do about that. Although the rhinoplasty will probably improve harmony in that region (think of mouth-to-nose width ratio). You will have to settle for a chin that is not too wide, as it would look off balance with the mouth otherwise.
Finally, you may need a bit of fillers to square the chin off and flare gonial angles out. You'll have to reassess post-trimax. Once again, no big deal, and, when time comes, you may not even feel the need for it (from a psychological standpoint).

All in all, your looks could be vastly improved in just a couple of years from now. If you have the funds for surgeries, and the discipline to commit, that is. This perspective alone should put an end to any suifueling.

Front profile morph :

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Damn bro can i pm u?

 

[vermicel]

Damn bro can i pm u?

sure

 

[TheNextOPry]

Not everyone squintmaxxes to death and im still T1 EAR and Nasofrontal

it was never about the squint

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

it was never about the squint

Brainlet

 

[zemult]

How old are you ?
What's your current bf % (approx. ; or height & weight) ?
Can you share your front profile, to see what you're really playing with and how to optimize it ?

Right now, your priority should be softmaxxing. Clear your skin, and achieve a smooth texture (with the help of tretinoin, and lasers if need be). Dye your eyebrows in a darker shade ; not too dark obviously ; let's say light-mid brown. So your lateral eyebrow will frame your eyes better. You seem to have a striking eye color with a strong limbal ring, and more generally a solid eye region, so you want to bring this feature out with good eyebrows.
You have nice hair, but need to find a better style.
Also, shave whatever vellus hair seems to be growing on the lower part of your face. Better clean shaven than with a low t beard.

Then, based on this side profile pic, I would suggest more than a plain genioplasty. There seems to be an issue with your jaw. When you get to consult a surgeon and can back up the analysis with a CT scan, pay close attention to your dental occlusion and jaw projection. I won't be surprised if you end up being a bimax candidate. Or trimax, should I say, because genioplasty will certainly be necessary.
Besides your jaw and chin, I believe your nose would need quite a bit of work, including a columella graft and a tip graft for augmented forward projection.

In the morph below, I cleared your skin, dyed your lateral eyebrow, grafted your columella and nose tip, smoothened the dorsum, rotated the nose tip, projected the maxilla a tiny bit forward, projected the mandible forward (BSSO), fixed the lip seal & downturned commissure, colored your lips in a redder tinge, and repositioned the chin. The BSSO and genio should correct your submental region, at least in part.

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As you can see, these changes add up and generate a significant improvement to your side profile. I think the "after" is actually pretty harmonious and good-looking.

I'm mirin the effort you're putting in for these random people, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to surgeries lol

The ROI for Bimax in this case is astronomically low to the point that it's more likely he'd get botched afterwards

Genio alone will suffice

 

[vermicel]

you clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to surgeries lol

The ROI for Bimax in this case is astronomically low to the point that it's more likely he'd get botched afterwards

Although I readily admit that my understanding of orthognathics is very superficial (I don't need such surgeries myself, so I lack the direct incentive to dig deeper), you're pushing it a bit with your comment — I'm fairly knowledgeable in other types of surgeries.

Pay attention to his mouth area (side profile). It looks off, as if it lacks support behind it. My morph intended to highlight this issue. From the front, there is the typical shadow below/around the mouth that can be indicative of a recessed mandible.
Yes, genioplasty is a given, but I'm not sure it will suffice to restore harmony to his whole lower third. As said earlier in the thread, I wouldn't be surprised if a scan revealed some issue with the occlusion or jaw. I could be wrong though, and it's ok. Even if I was proven right, it may not justify a bimax for the reasons you have brought up.
I don't think getting it wrong with the bimax invalidates everything else I've said in this thread. @Tryingmyverybest can (and should) use his brain to sort through the info. Ultimately, whatever we say here is of little importance compared with the surgeon's diagnosis (that's how I cope with the possibility of being wrong ).

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

I'm mirin the effort you're putting in for these random people, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to surgeries lol

The ROI for Bimax in this case is astronomically low to the point that it's more likely he'd get botched afterwards

Genio alone will suffice

Thanks bro im giving you solution

 

[Tryingmyverybest]

Thanks bro im giving you solution

Wait this isnt the right thread lmao

 

[zemult]

Although I readily admit that my understanding of orthognathics is very superficial (I don't need such surgeries myself, so I lack the direct incentive to dig deeper), you're pushing it a bit with your comment — I'm fairly knowledgeable in other types of surgeries.

Pay attention to his mouth area (side profile). It looks off, as if it lacks support behind it. My morph intended to highlight this issue. From the front, there is the typical shadow below/around the mouth that can be indicative of a recessed mandible.
Yes, genioplasty is a given, but I'm not sure it will suffice to restore harmony to his whole lower third. As said earlier in the thread, I wouldn't be surprised if a scan revealed some issue with the occlusion or jaw. I could be wrong though, and it's ok. Even if I was proven right, it may not justify a bimax for the reasons you have brought up.
I don't think getting it wrong with the bimax invalidates everything else I've said in this thread. @Tryingmyverybest can (and should) use his brain to sort through the info. Ultimately, whatever we say here is of little importance compared with the surgeon's diagnosis (that's how I cope with the possibility of being wrong ).

You did a good high effort job of writing out viable softmaxxes and such.

Bimax in this case is just a joke, I visibly cannot notice a significant issue with his jaw, only his receding chin. Especially considering the fact just editing his chin results in him passing all lip assessments.

Whatever subtle issues there may or may not be with his jaw, it will not be worth the ROI of Bimax, unless he has any functional problems like sleep apnea or bite. Bimax can be a great looksmax, for the right people. If you already have a normie-tier jaw the results are very lackluster:

75k surgery ascension result

Result Pre bimax Hair ransplant 5k Infra + fat graft + cantho 24k (taban) Trimax + chin lipo 29k (ramieri) Braces 5k Travel to us and hospital stay US 5k Tavel to italy and stay 2-3k And he will need rhino to straighten nose post bimax 5k+ Money can really ascend you:what: This is kinda...

looksmax.org

This is the reality of surgery. Pretty sure he was actually recessed too unlike OP.