Genuinely whats wrong with normie gymcels

[Orthognathic]

It's always the same normie gymcels who look fucking terrible that shit on chads for roiding because they're physique is achievable naturally with 1 in a million genetics after 15 years of near perfect training because they're favourite photoshopped "natty" fitness influencer looks better

But then the same people give kudos to overweight people for getting in shape or skinny kids putting on a bit of size? Why is it all love till someone has the balls to pick up the syringe? It's all about the end result, not how you got there

The most comical part of it all to me is how these retarded gymcels NEVER know litteraly anything about any compounds whatsoever. With modern pharmacology it's so easy to cycle multiple times with litteraly no longterm side effects whatsoever and normies just cannot comprehend that for whatever reason

They just want to shit on roidmaxxed chads to feel good about themselves as if they don't take 500mg caffeine of preworkout everyday and avoid cardio like their life depends on it. These kids cardiovascular systems are probably significantly worse than the vast majority of the roiders they bash on for "taking shortcuts" and "destroying their health"

 

[6.3ft fatcel]

They are scared of needles/losing natty card like it even matters (it doesn't)

 

[Saint Casanova]

It's always the same normie gymcels who look fucking terrible that shit on chads for roiding because they're physique is achievable naturally with 1 in a million genetics after 15 years of near perfect training because they're favourite photoshopped "natty" fitness influencer looks better

But then the same people give kudos to overweight people for getting in shape or skinny kids putting on a bit of size? Why is it all love till someone has the balls to pick up the syringe? It's all about the end result, not how you got there

The most comical part of it all to me is how these retarded gymcels NEVER know litteraly anything about any compounds whatsoever. With modern pharmacology it's so easy to cycle multiple times with litteraly no longterm side effects whatsoever and normies just cannot comprehend that for whatever reason

They just want to shit on roidmaxxed chads to feel good about themselves as if they don't take 500mg caffeine of preworkout everyday and avoid cardio like their life depends on it. These kids cardiovascular systems are probably significantly worse than the vast majority of the roiders they bash on for "taking shortcuts" and "destroying their health

Because most Normies despise people taking action. It’s like setting up a business and most of your Normie friends and colleagues just discourage you for example.

 

[JasGews69x]

With modern pharmacology it's so easy to cycle multiple times with litteraly no longterm side effects whatsoever and normies just cannot comprehend that for whatever reason

 

[trvechud]

It's always the same normie gymcels who look fucking terrible that shit on chads for roiding because they're physique is achievable naturally with 1 in a million genetics after 15 years of near perfect training because they're favourite photoshopped "natty" fitness influencer looks better

But then the same people give kudos to overweight people for getting in shape or skinny kids putting on a bit of size? Why is it all love till someone has the balls to pick up the syringe? It's all about the end result, not how you got there

The most comical part of it all to me is how these retarded gymcels NEVER know litteraly anything about any compounds whatsoever. With modern pharmacology it's so easy to cycle multiple times with litteraly no longterm side effects whatsoever and normies just cannot comprehend that for whatever reason

They just want to shit on roidmaxxed chads to feel good about themselves as if they don't take 500mg caffeine of preworkout everyday and avoid cardio like their life depends on it. These kids cardiovascular systems are probably significantly worse than the vast majority of the roiders they bash on for "taking shortcuts" and "destroying their health"

Appeal to nature fallacy. Also people get angry when they perceive someone as having taken a shortcut

 

[User28823]

99% of roidcels look like shit and should rope immediately for thinking they could even come close to a GOD

I want to line up all the roidcels and publicly humiliate those who look like fucking DOGSHIT on roids (99%)

 

[6.3ft fatcel]

Appeal to nature fallacy. Also people get angry when they perceive someone as having taken a shortcut

Yet same "people" glaze Jackfitness or however that dude who jumped out of concentration camp is called for putting 4lbs of weight in 2+ years like he wouldn't change his life with a good roid cycle in that time

 

[Orthognathic]

It's true

 

[JasGews69x]

It's true

how?

 

[Asiangymmax]

 

[trvechud]

Yet same "people" glaze Jackfitness or however that dude who jumped out of concentration camp is called for putting 4lbs of weight in 2+ years like he wouldn't change his life with a good roid cycle in that time

He needs complete facial reconstruction to change his life. Also he probably never actually tried in the gym no fucking way you only put on 4lbs after 2 years of lfiting

 

[Orthognathic]

Appeal to nature fallacy. Also people get angry when they perceive someone as having taken a shortcut

Pretty sad the human brain is warped to make us believe hard workers are more deserving than smart workers. Genuine rat race

 

[Orthognathic]

99% of roidcels look like shit and should rope immediately for thinking they could even come close to a GOD

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I want to line up all the roidcels and publicly humiliate those who look like fucking DOGSHIT on roids (99%)

Yeah genetics will always be superior to any form of drug intervention for anything. That being said I think everyone should make the most out of their genetics and drugs are by far the best way to do so

 

[6.3ft fatcel]

He needs complete facial reconstruction to change his life. Also he probably never actually tried in the gym no fucking way you only put on 4lbs

He still could improve physically wise if he just showed a needle in his butt cheek

 

[Orthognathic]

how?

There's so many protective measures you can use, people only get the impression that roiding leaves lasting effects since golden age bodybuilders abused drugs when pharmacology wasn't as advanced and came out fucked. If you cycle smart and properly use ai, hcg, liver support, pct, get regular bloodwork, etc the odds are you'll come out unscathed and still live a full & healthy life. I mean even Cbum who won 8 Olympia's or some shit is still fertile and plans on having kids after abusing steroids for nearly a decade

 

[gooner23]

overthinking it a lil, i do think your average natty gymcel is significantly healthier than your average roider honestly mostly from a longevity perspective Almost every science based roider/ hiar loss specialist all tweaked out or just died under random ass circumstances despite having perfect blood work

and on top of all that for whatever reason my roid friends always start experiencing random ass homosexual thoughts that continue on their whole life even after hopping off like you can see this shit happening live on .org with orc and mfin confused bolivian

 

[Orthognathic]

overthinking it a lil, i do think your average natty gymcel is significantly healthier than your average roider honestly mostly from a longevity perspective Almost every science based roider/ hiar loss specialist all tweaked out or just died under random ass circumstances despite having perfect blood work

and on top of all that for whatever reason my roid friends always start experiencing random ass homosexual thoughts that continue on their whole life even after hopping off like you can see this shit happening live on .org with orc and mfin confused bolivian

I do agree with you that the average natty lifter would be more healthy than the average roider, the point I was trying to make is that plenty of normlie lifters are completely oblivious to the effects of the drugs they despise so much. Onto your second point I'm not really too sure what you mean by most roiders randomly dying with perfect bloodwork tbh lol, I'd be interested if you could expand on that a bit more

And yeah I've heard that in bodybuilding forums before, it makes sense tbh. When your testosterone is raised into super physiological levels your sex drive and appetite will raise with it and maybe lead to some weird shit. The way I see it is most guys who "turn" gay from roiding were already gay before, just not noticably. If a guy pre-cycle is 5% gay but then has his sex drive amplified by 75% then he'd end up 8.75% gay which would be more noticable if that makes sense.

That's ignoring compounds like tren which can fuck your mind in weird ways, I wouldn't be suprised if it could legitimately rewire your brain and make you gay

 

[xX_ovrb4itstrtd_Xx]

i was heavily into the natty gym scene in 2021-22 and can say its literally just because of this

these retarded gymcels NEVER know litteraly anything about any compounds whatsoever. With modern pharmacology it's so easy to cycle multiple times with litteraly no longterm side effects whatsoever and normies just cannot comprehend that for whatever reason

when you decide to stay natty, you dont even spend your time learning about different roids cause y the fuck would you. up until i started using this forum, there was no difference in my head between hgh, anavar, test or even mk for fucks sake. i just saw them all as shortcuts that would always end up with you either frying your balls and fucking up your natural test production eternally or cause a heart attack right after cycling off. kinda annoyed by it because a cycle of hgh wouldve been worth it at 16 as compared to now but thats just how it goes i guess

 

[gooner23]

I do agree with you that the average natty lifter would be more healthy than the average roider, the point I was trying to make is that plenty of normlie lifters are completely oblivious to the effects of the drugs they despise so much. Onto your second point I'm not really too sure what you mean by most roiders randomly dying with perfect bloodwork tbh lol, I'd be interested if you could expand on that a bit more

And yeah I've heard that in bodybuilding forums before, it makes sense tbh. When your testosterone is raised into super physiological levels your sex drive and appetite will raise with it and maybe lead to some weird shit. The way I see it is most guys who "turn" gay from roiding were already gay before, just not noticably. If a guy pre-cycle is 5% gay but then has his sex drive amplified by 75% then he'd end up 8.75% gay which would be more noticable if that makes sense.

That's ignoring compounds like tren which can fuck your mind in weird ways, I wouldn't be suprised if it could legitimately rewire your brain and make you gay

never said most roiders dying earlly randomly they're kind've understandable (cialis + caffeine + diuretics) just grouped it in with the tweak out group the tweak out group is like ridiculous almost to a religious extent, there was a thread just not to long ago like calum von moger/connor murphy

my main worry nowadays is like i think people pushing the benefits of peptides a lil too hard i don't think theres much downsides to them but for like an average healthy person theres like isn't much to gain from reta/ghk cu/bpc, your skin can only be so good would probably benefit a roider a lot more tho

for bodybuilding purposes i don't understand doing a safe test cycle since yknow like you said, a lot of people are dyel but a safe test cycle is usually not enough to push past that and most natty people reach their actual hit their prime in 8-14 months (people that say it takes 4 years is bsing and its usually cause of inexperience) iidk why doing a cycle is some kind of short cut your gonna get there eventually

have a lot of personal friends on test e but they lowkey don't look any different or traded some aesthetics for size

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

They are scared of needles/losing natty card like it even matters (it doesn't)

muh natty card when I fuck their mother

 

[Orthognathic]

i was heavily into the natty gym scene in 2021-22 and can say its literally just because of this

when you decide to stay natty, you dont even spend your time learning about different roids cause y the fuck would you. up until i started using this forum, there was no difference in my head between hgh, anavar, test or even mk for fucks sake. i just saw them all as shortcuts that would always end up with you either frying your balls and fucking up your natural test production eternally or cause a heart attack right after cycling off. kinda annoyed by it because a cycle of hgh wouldve been worth it at 16 as compared to now but thats just how it goes i guess

Obviously that's not the point I'm trying to make, I never said all naturals should learning about compounds so I'm not too sure where you got that from

What I did say is that usually it's the same naturals who bash on these drugs who are the same ones who don't know anything about them, making their opinions redundant

I get you though jfl I knew about hgh since I was 13 but never touched it because I fell under the pretense that "drugs = bad," pretty unfortunate

 

[Orthognathic]

never said most roiders dying earlly randomly they're kind've understandable (cialis + caffeine + diuretics) just grouped it in with the tweak out group the tweak out group is like ridiculous almost to a religious extent, there was a thread just not to long ago like calum von moger/connor murphy

my main worry nowadays is like i think people pushing the benefits of peptides a lil too hard i don't think theres much downsides to them but for like an average healthy person theres like isn't much to gain from reta/ghk cu/bpc, your skin can only be so good would probably benefit a roider a lot more tho

for bodybuilding purposes i don't understand doing a safe test cycle since yknow like you said, a lot of people are dyel but a safe test cycle is usually not enough to push past that and most natty people reach their actual hit their prime in 8-14 months (people that say it takes 4 years is bsing and its usually cause of inexperience) iidk why doing a cycle is some kind of short cut your gonna get there eventually

have a lot of personal friends on test e but they lowkey don't look any different or traded some aesthetics for size

Yeah I see what you're saying and that's understandable but I'd have to disagree tbh

I think the few cases where someone does "everything right" and just randomly dies are blown out of proportion, and reasonably so. It's more interesting to hear about someone dying than succeeding with nothing happening to them, just adds to the shock value I guess. But I still feel extremely confident that if the average person were to take a 500mg test e cycle for 15 weeks for example and later a 500mg test e + 500mg primo cycle for 15 weeks or something they'd still manage to live a full and healthy life if they did everything correctly.

And yeah 100%, people expect roiders to be 3x the size of a natural and if they aren't it's "not worth it" because they have a physique that's attainable naturally. Only difference being the roider gained that physique 10x faster, some may feel that it's worth it and some may not. There's also a natural cap that you can reach at which point steroids are the only thing that can push you past that so I wouldn't deem steroids as "not worth while" or anything at all since they'll put you greatly ahead of where you started 10/10 times.

I also strongly vouch for peptides such as retatrutide, ghk-cu, etc and advocate that the future of peptides will be the closest thing we have to miracle drugs, but only time will tell I guess