(GET IN HERE PRONTO) anabolic stack

[landyn]

i was thinking about stacking test, cjc, anavar, and arimidex.

is this a good stack, i hit delayed puberty and am still a soy boy (look at recent posts) i have decent gains but want more, whats the point of living if your small and ugly, moneys only part of the equation.

will that stack be enough or is it too much, i wanted to add igf but pure igf is expensive and the alternative igf just floats around in your blood stream and doesnt really help your bones grow mainly muscle recovery from what i know, i would use hgh but i dont have enough bread to toss at that along with my business.

im planning on getting a blood test soon and seeing if my plates are open, i have alot of the delayed puberty affects like voice cracks, high pitched voice, and hungry 24/7, but im getting checked just to make sure, but at the end of the day my main goal is to grow bonemass and muscle mass im 5.10 and thats good enough for me if my plates are closed and decent clavicle width.

what would you guys recommend i add to this stack or take away, any info helps also looking for a way to bring back my natural test after i pin, dont wanna have to pin my entire life unless theirs no other option.

 

[FutureSlayer]

why is there no hgh

 

[landyn]

why is there no hgh

the stack alone i feel is good enough

 

[FutureSlayer]

the stack alone i feel is good enough

You can boost it without sides

 

[landyn]

You can boost it without sides

do you think what im gonna run right now is good though and do yk how if ill be able to bring back natural test after i pin. prob my biggest fear tbr.

 

[FutureSlayer]

do you think what im gonna run right now is good though and do yk how if ill be able to bring back natural test after i pin. prob my biggest fear tbr.

I would swap hgh with cjc and do a test base only as a first cycle, I'm planning to start soon as well

 

[landyn]

do you know any cheap suppliers because all i see if around 300-1000 per month

 

[hej1377]

I would say switch anavar for deca imo and also add ru58841

 

[hej1377]

do you know any cheap suppliers because all i see if around 300-1000 per month

All you.mentioned is like 60bucks on ssa and hgh is also pretty cheap there

Also just buy enclo or clomid to to bring back your test,hcg isnt necessary i dont think but tou can get it if youre really worried

 

[xevuxia]

Lgd ?

 

[landyn]

I would say switch anavar for deca imo and also add ru58841

can you explain what the other 2 do compared to anavar becayse i took anavar alne for like 3 months before and it kinda cooked me but imma give it a try again.

 

[landyn]

Lgd ?

wym?

 

[Midasw]

i was thinking about stacking test, cjc, anavar, and arimidex.

is this a good stack, i hit delayed puberty and am still a soy boy (look at recent posts) i have decent gains but want more, whats the point of living if your small and ugly, moneys only part of the equation.

will that stack be enough or is it too much, i wanted to add igf but pure igf is expensive and the alternative igf just floats around in your blood stream and doesnt really help your bones grow mainly muscle recovery from what i know, i would use hgh but i dont have enough bread to toss at that along with my business.

im planning on getting a blood test soon and seeing if my plates are open, i have alot of the delayed puberty affects like voice cracks, high pitched voice, and hungry 24/7, but im getting checked just to make sure, but at the end of the day my main goal is to grow bonemass and muscle mass im 5.10 and thats good enough for me if my plates are closed and decent clavicle width.

what would you guys recommend i add to this stack or take away, any info helps also looking for a way to bring back my natural test after i pin, dont wanna have to pin my entire life unless theirs no other option.

i can help with dosing id youd like, also aromasin has less sides so its the only major aromatase inhibitor id use

 

[xevuxia]

wym?

Lgd 4033

 

[landyn]

All you.mentioned is like 60bucks on ssa and hgh is also pretty cheap there

Also just buy enclo or clomid to to bring back your test,hcg isnt necessary i dont think but tou can get it if youre really worried

i want the bonemass affect and muscle gain, honestly i dont really care about hight maybe a few inches from 5.10 to like 6 foot ish would be nice but not neccessary unless i can find a cheap supplier of hgh thats real

 

[Midasw]

can you explain what the other 2 do compared to anavar becayse i took anavar alne for like 3 months before and it kinda cooked me but imma give it a try again.

maybe it was tbol, anavar makes me tweaky in a good way

 

[landyn]

i can help with dosing id youd like, also aromasin has less sides so its the only major aromatase inhibitor id use

i usually ask chatgpt JFL but id appreciate that

 

[landyn]

Lgd 4033

what would i sub out or do you think i should add it

 

[hej1377]

can you explain what the other 2 do compared to anavar becayse i took anavar alne for like 3 months before and it kinda cooked me but imma give it a try again.

Well anavar isnt great,it makes you look good during cycle but doesnt give good muscle mass and is mild so you probably wont get too much side effects

Deca,nandrolone Decanoate is another steroid,its an injectsble so you avoid liver toxicity and it gives good joint support snd doesnt really give any horrible sides if you do it right,it will give you way more mass than anavar and combined with test youll noticeably have way more luscle after the cycle

Ru58841 is a topical anti androgen. It goes into your skin and prevents all androgens,so test anavar,dht,deca whatever from getring into your skin and hair if you use it there, so you will completely avoid all androgen induced skin ageing and collagen and hair loss from the steroids which is really bad

If you dont use it youll end up looking 5 years older in your skin,get wrinkles and fine lines and lose your hair prematurely

 

[landyn]

maybe it was tbol, anavar makes me tweaky in a good way

idk how to explain what it did for me, i never got blood work done but i mean i guess it helped during wrestling season

 

[hej1377]

i want the bonemass affect and muscle gain, honestly i dont really care about hight maybe a few inches from 5.10 to like 6 foot ish would be nice but not neccessary unless i can find a cheap supplier of hgh thats real

I mean you might not get height or bonesmass but hgh is 110 for 360iu on ssa

 

[xevuxia]

what would i sub out or do you think i should add it

Idk personally @Jatt recommended for me

 

[landyn]

Well anavar isnt great,it makes you look good during cycle but doesnt give good muscle mass and is mild so you probably wont get too much side effects

Deca,nandrolone Decanoate is another steroid,its an injectsble so you avoid liver toxicity and it gives good joint support snd doesnt really give any horrible sides if you do it right,it will give you way more mass than anavar and combined with test youll noticeably have way more luscle after the cycle

Ru58841 is a topical anti androgen. It goes into your skin and prevents all androgens,so test anavar,dht,deca whatever from getring into your skin and hair if you use it there, so you will completely avoid all androgen induced skin ageing and collagen and hair loss from the steroids which is really bad

If you dont use it youll end up looking 5 years older in your skin,get wrinkles and fine lines and lose your hair prematurely

insane pull, preciate the info, ill do more research on it but have you taken any of these personally? if so how did you feel/ work

 

[landyn]

I mean you might not get height or bonesmass but hgh is 110 for 360iu on ssa

you think its real, have you used it?

 

[hej1377]

insane pull, preciate the info, ill do more research on it but have you taken any of these personally? if so how did you feel/ work

Starting deca soon but its widely recognised as a very good steroid for muscle mass while not being super androgenic and people usually feel great unless if they use it without test base

If youre health concius you should also use dutasteride against some of the systemic cellular ageing from the androgens that are in your organs and bpc 157 is also really good to protect your cardiovascilar systems whoch might take a bit of a toll, this cycle at normal dosages wont be too bad,you wont die years prematurely but it will still have an effect so might be worth atleast considering

 

[hej1377]

you think its real, have you used it?

Hes provably the biggest ped supplier in the world so most likely yes

 

[Midasw]

i usually ask chatgpt JFL but id appreciate that

im on 350 test weekly, 10 anavar daily, 2mg cjc weekly, 150 iu HCG eod and 5 mg of aromasin on injection day and 2.5 mg of aromasin on hcg day

titrating your AI is very important and difficult since WE cant afford weekly blood tests, so id recommend starting high, crashing your estrogen a bit, then lowering the dose until you feel good and have the hardest longest lasting boners and tight nipples that dont hurt, you will notice low libido, no boners on low estrogen and high libido but bad boners and puffy and sensitive nipples on high estrogen

personally i started with 10mg eod of aromasin, but i felt horrible after a couple weeks, no sex drive or bonar, so i let it rise by lowering my dose, HCG helps with recovering from crashed e2 faster because it will raise intratesticular testosterone levels, something exogenous testosterone doesnt do very well, but since hcg causes testosterone to be produced in the testes, so much testosterone will be in that one spot that any aromatase remaining will produce estrogen, that part is mostly theoretical, but some studies support my claims to a certain extent.

id also add some vitamin b p5p to reduce prolactin (about 300mg should do the trick just fine) take it right before bed as it will make you nauseous the first few times before your brain gets desensitized to the higher dopamine

ancillaries for the CJC should also be taken, consider berbirine or slin pills to reduce blood sugar so you dont get the beetus

maybe some TUDCA or NAC for the anavar but studies show it really isnt that harmfull short term, do only take it for 10mg ed 2 moths max

 

[Midasw]

Starting deca soon but its widely recognised as a very good steroid for muscle mass while not being super androgenic and people usually feel great unless if they use it without test base

If youre health concius you should also use dutasteride against the systemic cellular ageing from the androgens that are in your organs and bpc 157 is also really good to protect your cardiovascilar systems whoch might take a bit of a toll, this cycle at normal dosages wont be too bad,you wont die years prematurely but it will still have an effect so might be worth atleast considering

dont recommend deca to a beginner, it should only be used for gaining muscle and should never be taken in a pure looksmaxxing context

 

[Midasw]

you think its real, have you used it?

its real, atleast their cjc is, i prefer the cjc as its A weekly injection for very similar serum hgh levels, some users even report 8+ IUs of hgh om bloods

their purity is pretty gud ngl but id like to see the actual HPLC chromatogram

 

[IraniancelV2]

Cjc is useless

 

[hej1377]

dont recommend deca to a beginner, it should only be used for gaining muscle and should never be taken in a pure looksmaxxing context

Yeah it might not be good for some looksmaxing areas but he is trying to gain muscle so i think it might be a good addition

I think it might be a good choice since he can get good results without strong or pitentially negative mental side effects most other steroids have

 

[Midasw]

Well anavar isnt great,it makes you look good during cycle but doesnt give good muscle mass and is mild so you probably wont get too much side effects

Deca,nandrolone Decanoate is another steroid,its an injectsble so you avoid liver toxicity and it gives good joint support snd doesnt really give any horrible sides if you do it right,it will give you way more mass than anavar and combined with test youll noticeably have way more luscle after the cycle

Ru58841 is a topical anti androgen. It goes into your skin and prevents all androgens,so test anavar,dht,deca whatever from getring into your skin and hair if you use it there, so you will completely avoid all androgen induced skin ageing and collagen and hair loss from the steroids which is really bad

If you dont use it youll end up looking 5 years older in your skin,get wrinkles and fine lines and lose your hair prematurely

for me, someone not prone to AA, i find i dont need to use RU if im on finasteride whist taking a DHT derivative like da var

 

[Midasw]

Cjc is useless

it is not, read the studies and anacdotal reports buddy boyo

 

[landyn]

Starting deca soon but its widely recognised as a very good steroid for muscle mass while not being super androgenic and people usually feel great unless if they use it without test base

If youre health concius you should also use dutasteride against some of the systemic cellular ageing from the androgens that are in your organs and bpc 157 is also really good to protect your cardiovascilar systems whoch might take a bit of a toll, this cycle at normal dosages wont be too bad,you wont die years prematurely but it will still have an effect so might be worth atleast considering

so what im getting form this is that running deca with test is a good starting base and add bpc 157 for skin anti aging? love it anything else?

 

[Midasw]

Yeah it might not be good for some looksmaxing areas but he is trying to gain muscle so i think it might be a good addition

I think it might be a good choice since he can get good results without strong or pitentially negative mental side effects most other steroids have

maybe he should use it on a second cycle when he has more experience, deca has a. weird side effect profile, atleast watch some vigorous steve on it jfl

 

[IraniancelV2]

it is not, read the studies and anacdotal reports buddy boyo

Inferior to HGH buddy boyo

 

[hej1377]

for me, someone not prone to AA, i find i dont need to use RU if im on finasteride whist taking a DHT derivative like da var

Still its gonna cause lose of elastin and even if it doesnt cause him to go bald now he could still end up losing hair earlier than he would otherwise and fin or dut wouldnt help with anavar

 

[Midasw]

so what im getting form this is that running deca with test is a good starting base and add bpc 157 for skin anti aging? love it anything else?

ghk is better for skin anti aging, and deca is a 19nor so it might increase collagen production

 

[Midasw]

Inferior to HGH buddy boyo

cheaper, less injections, for similar if not higher serum hgh levels, all depends on your pituitary ofc, id only recommend hgh for a total genelet

 

[Midasw]

Still its gonna cause lose of elastin and even if it doesnt cause him to go bald now he could still end up losing hair earlier than he would otherwise and fin or dut wouldnt help with anavar

you can make a topical Ru cream or just slather the alcohol solution on yo face, works actually! got rid of my body acne that way

 

[hej1377]

maybe he should use it on a second cycle when he has more experience, deca has a. weird side effect profile, atleast watch some vigorous steve on it jfl

I mean i guess i could see that since it does some weird things sometimes but most of the time pepple get side effects from using it like an idiot

 

[hej1377]

so what im getting form this is that running deca with test is a good starting base and add bpc 157 for skin anti aging? love it anything else?

I think youre set just dont go ocer 300test and 400 deca imo,prefferbly a bit under since youre a beginner

 

[landyn]

im on 350 test weekly, 10 anavar daily, 2mg cjc weekly, 150 iu HCG eod and 5 mg of aromasin on injection day and 2.5 mg of aromasin on hcg day

titrating your AI is very important and difficult since WE cant afford weekly blood tests, so id recommend starting high, crashing your estrogen a bit, then lowering the dose until you feel good and have the hardest longest lasting boners and tight nipples that dont hurt, you will notice low libido, no boners on low estrogen and high libido but bad boners and puffy and sensitive nipples on high estrogen

personally i started with 10mg eod of aromasin, but i felt horrible after a couple weeks, no sex drive or bonar, so i let it rise by lowering my dose, HCG helps with recovering from crashed e2 faster because it will raise intratesticular testosterone levels, something exogenous testosterone doesnt do very well, but since hcg causes testosterone to be produced in the testes, so much testosterone will be in that one spot that any aromatase remaining will produce estrogen, that part is mostly theoretical, but some studies support my claims to a certain extent.

id also add some vitamin b p5p to reduce prolactin (about 300mg should do the trick just fine) take it right before bed as it will make you nauseous the first few times before your brain gets desensitized to the higher dopamine

ancillaries for the CJC should also be taken, consider berbirine or slin pills to reduce blood sugar so you dont get the beetus

maybe some TUDCA or NAC for the anavar but studies show it really isnt that harmfull short term, do only take it for 10mg ed 2 moths max

starting high on what? aromasin? imma be honest theres aton of words i dont know, but from what im understanding id have to take a really high amount of something then crash? then find the base level? and use a few other suppressors to support it all? what would this all achieve at the end of the day and how much would this cost a month and correct me if im wrong.

 

[landyn]

I think youre set just dont go ocer 300test and 400 deca imo,prefferbly a bit under since youre a beginner

100% imma have to figure out all the tweaks and figure out how much to take after i figure ouyt what all to take exactly, for muscle growth and bone growth, dont think much height growth will happen but you never know

 

[Midasw]

starting high on what? aromasin? imma be honest theres aton of words i dont know, but from what im understanding id have to take a really high amount of something then crash? then find the base level? and use a few other suppressors to support it all? what would this all achieve at the end of the day and how much would this cost a month and correct me if im wrong.

crashing e2 = lowering estrogen until you feel side effects

you want to find the optimal level of estrogen, lower than baseline, but not as low to make your dick shrivel up and your brain retarded

ancillaries are side effect preventors for the other things you want to take, tudca for the liver, berberine for insulin sensitivity

the end goals:
1. make sure your estrogen doesnt make your growth plates fuse
2. make sure your liver doenst explode
3. make sure you dont turn into a retard
4. make sure you dont go diabetic

 

[landyn]

crashing e2 = lowering estrogen until you feel side effects

you want to find the optimal level of estrogen, lower than baseline, but not as low to make your dick shrivel up and your brain retarded

ancillaries are side effect preventors for the other things you want to take, tudca for the liver, berberine for insulin sensitivity

the end goals:
1. make sure your estrogen doesnt make your growth plates fuse
2. make sure your liver doenst explode
3. make sure you dont turn into a retard
4. make sure you dont go diabetic

love it love it love it sounds good. dont you have to test levels or what you said kinda eye ball it so you don't have to blood test every week?
so id take ancillaries after i find the sweetspot?
how long did it take you to find it as like a baseline cause ik everybodys different?
so the endgoal for the estrogen sensitivity is to have long lasting boners and hard nipples, thats how youll know youve found the right spot?
On your current stack what have you noticed for bonemass, muscle gain, and Hight gain, and how long have you been takening everything?
and how much do you spend a month on everything?

 

[landyn]

Well anavar isnt great,it makes you look good during cycle but doesnt give good muscle mass and is mild so you probably wont get too much side effects

Deca,nandrolone Decanoate is another steroid,its an injectsble so you avoid liver toxicity and it gives good joint support snd doesnt really give any horrible sides if you do it right,it will give you way more mass than anavar and combined with test youll noticeably have way more luscle after the cycle

Ru58841 is a topical anti androgen. It goes into your skin and prevents all androgens,so test anavar,dht,deca whatever from getring into your skin and hair if you use it there, so you will completely avoid all androgen induced skin ageing and collagen and hair loss from the steroids which is really bad

If you dont use it youll end up looking 5 years older in your skin,get wrinkles and fine lines and lose your hair prematurely

do yk where i can source RU588

 

[landyn]

couldnt find hgh on the ssa website, am i on the wrong one? do you guys have the correct url?

 

[landyn]

ghk is better for skin anti aging, and deca is a 19nor so it might increase collagen production

so wait out of all these which should i go for, Ru, ghk ,or bpc for anti agents

 

[Midasw]

love it love it love it sounds good. dont you have to test levels or what you said kinda eye ball it so you don't have to blood test every week?
so id take ancillaries after i find the sweetspot?
how long did it take you to find it as like a baseline cause ik everybodys different?
so the endgoal for the estrogen sensitivity is to have long lasting boners and hard nipples, thats how youll know youve found the right spot?
On your current stack what have you noticed for bonemass, muscle gain, and Hight gain, and how long have you been takening everything?
and how much do you spend a month on everything?

yeah you need bloods, but as i said, im not spending 300 on bloods every week, so fuck it we ball

ancillaries dont effect your estrogen levels, take them for the duration of the cycle

i knew i found the sweet spot when my boners where on point and my phisique looked good and dry, theres videos from MPMD and vigourous steve on this aswell, i kept a log with chatgpt too to guess my dosages and estrogen levels base on symptoms

i think i mightve gotten a little bonemass from my stack, but the increase will be limited as im 20, but im 6 foot HTN so if it increases bonemass it will just be the cherry on top, ive been on cycle for 3 months and on cjc for 2

noticed considerable (4 kg) of muscle growth in the first two months on test, better vascularity on var, and great fat loss on cjc, my voice also deepened considerably from voicecel too close to chad on voicecel website

my sides were from the estrogen guessing game, but also some body acne, and minor hair loss, which i got rid of and have great regrowth on finasteride and RU58851, dont worry AT ALL about finasteride sides when on test and hcg, they wont happen when your steroids (test and hcg) and neurosteroids (hcg) are supplemented through exogenous pathways

i spend like 300 euros on SSA for cjc, ipa, GHK-CU, semax, tadafanil and finasteride

50 euros on var from deuschem as ssa is out for atleast a couple weeks more according to Ray

and 150 on great test, hcg and aromasin from prima pharma, also nolvadex for gyno and pct

i can propably last for half a year on the peptides from ssa and will continue to buy them, as for the test im doing a nolva and enclo pct and natty plus (look up connor murphy natty plus) from now. on forward, as i have everything i wanted from one cycle, and just want a reliable long term plan whilst being able to stop enclo anytime i want

test lasts me 4 months ig, depends how you dose it, i had to order an extra vial as i was clumsy and spilled and lost a bunch of test in needles

would order my test, hcg, anavar and aromasin from ssa if i did it over

sorry if my writings come over a little ND, im just writing this shit without planning on the phone