GETTING ATTRACTIVE WOMEN AS A SUB5 IS POSSIBLE

Zeekie

Zeekie

Zephir
Joined
May 18, 2024
Posts
1,913
Reputation
2,188
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
1747143363727

This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
1747143684289

I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
 
  • JFL
  • +1
  • Hmm...
Reactions: Bata Trlaja, AverageCurryEnjoyer, PeakIncels and 5 others
Ezgifcom speed
 
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: Greylarp, CEO, enlightful and 3 others
js moneymaxx
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
dickpill ?
but yeah it's never over unless clinically diformed
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
Using Jayz as an example is, retarded. He's wealthy, powerful and well connected. Gomez is past the wall and settling anyways
 
  • +1
Reactions: AverageCurryEnjoyer, ltn_looksminner, Meteor21 and 2 others
It's over for average Joe Subhuman manlets like me though, you're just gaslighting
 
  • +1
Reactions: Greylarp and itzyaboyJJ
just be a super famous billioner bro it worked for me
 
  • +1
  • JFL
Reactions: buzzhaze, AverageCurryEnjoyer, Greylarp and 7 others
Using Jayz as an example is, retarded. He's wealthy, powerful and well connected. Gomez is past the wall and settling anyways
Yes, I acknowledge this in the post. Jay-Z has a net worth is 2.5 billion dollars and is very famous, but Beyonce is arguably one of the most famous artist of our generation and has net worth is like 800 million dollars, it isn't anywhere close to Jay-Z, but still. Beyonce, in her prime or even perhaps right now, has a lot of access to women as wealthy and famous as Jay-Z, yet even more attractive. Jay-Z is wealthier, but Beyonce is more famous, and I'd argue has more connections, so their social status is comparable, this is why her decision to get with him considering his looks is very interesting
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
Speaking from experience? :feelsohh:

On a real tho, the reason they are attractive is cause of that mulllaaa.

Beyoncé got stuck with Jay Z (long story, she killed someone who has the same hype around her etc etc, took her under his wing)

Selena thing was just a fling but there are rumors where Benny drinks her piss and lick her feet and apparently she liked that a lot. Made her feel like a goddess.
 
  • +1
Reactions: enlightful and itzyaboyJJ
Speaking from experience? :feelsohh:

On a real tho, the reason they are attractive is cause of that mulllaaa.

Beyoncé got stuck with Jay Z (long story, she killed someone who has the same hype around her etc etc, took her under his wing)

Selena thing was just a fling but there are rumors where Benny drinks her piss and lick her feet and apparently she liked that a lot. Made her feel like a goddess.
Still sounds like hope to me. If I was Benny I would gladly be stuck with Selena even if I have to degrade myself for her, she's significantly out of his league, plus further elevated his status
 
  • +1
  • Hmm...
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ and WKW
Still sounds like hope to me. If I was Benny I would gladly be stuck with Selena even if I have to degrade myself for her, she's significantly out of his league, plus further elevated his status
I’m the opposite tbh, rather be with an LTB and not degrade myself for the sake of getting laid to a hotter woman.
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ and Zeekie
money n status
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ and dookielooksmaxxer
Its more rare to have their status than it is to be good looking
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
statuscel and richcels need to cope via mega betabuxxing stacies makeupmaxxed:feelsmage:
 
  • +1
Reactions: AverageCurryEnjoyer and itzyaboyJJ
Selena Gomez looks like she has down syndrome
most overrated celeb ever
 
  • +1
  • Hmm...
Reactions: enlightful, itzyaboyJJ and realshit
Selena Gomez looks like she has down syndrome
most overrated celeb ever
Prime Selena was ight I guess, but still, she should not be Benny Blanco out of all niggas. She outclasses him in every single category
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
View attachment 3730756
This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
View attachment 3730765
I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
oofy doofy theory. selena gomez got FUCKED and emotionally RAPED by justin bieber. she's damaged and needs somebody who is "good for the soul, not just the hole" now
 
  • +1
Reactions: enlightful and itzyaboyJJ
oofy doofy theory. selena gomez got FUCKED and emotionally RAPED by justin bieber. she's damaged and needs somebody who is "good for the soul, not just the hole" now
Yes, that's basically true. But it doesn't invalidate my point, a sub5 managed to get with a relatively attractive woman, who's richer than them, more famous than them and have more options than them.

A lot of dudes be saying "looks and status" in the comments, but of fucking course, those play a role in this context but it's way less relevant than they think. Because we're not comparing an average attractive girl who has 10k followers on Instagram dating an ultra-wealthy ugly athlete, in that context, of course the girl would choose the wealthy dude even if they're ugly. But here we're comparing women who are global superstars and men who're relative to them, or actually lower in the case of Benny Blanco.

If women choose these guys, considering they have no need for their money, fame or status, because they're already thriving at that themselves, and actually, if they really tried they could get with someone better because they have that option, then that's evidence enough that being a sub5 doesn't necessarily take you out of dating if you seek attractive women. It is going to be extremely fucking brutal, but it's obviously not impossible, and factors like your perceived money, status, emotional availability and ability to talk to women do constitute a significant factor in attracting women even if your looks are suboptimal.

Despite this clear evidence, extreme blackpillers will still try to claim otherwise.
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
If women choose these guys,
it is closer to "settling" rather than "choosing"


being a sub5 doesn't necessarily take you out of dating if you seek attractive. It is going to be extremely fucking brutal, but it's obviously not impossible, and factors like your perceived money, status, emotional availability and ability to talk to women do constitute a significant factor in attracting women even if your looks are suboptimal.
agreed, but is it going to be a happy life for the sub5 knowing that she would have gone (and still will)for a more attractive dude and just chose to settle down for him cuz he doesn't create drama with other girls and is a nice guy?
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
You just need to bribe foids with money and gifts
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
it is closer to "settling" rather than "choosing"



agreed, but is it going to be a happy life for the sub5 knowing that she would have gone (and still will)for a more attractive dude and just chose to settle down for him cuz he doesn't create drama with other girls and is a nice guy?
I mean no, I'm not saying it's nice for them, I'm sure most people in relationships like that are very aware of that dynamic, but I'm a very reductionist individual, I would say I'm barely over a 5 rating, so not really a sub5, but let's say I was... Do I really care if she settled for me or not? I'm still sleeping with her and being in a relationship, you get pretty much all the perks of the real package even if you're not her first option.
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
the looks matches of those two foids u posted

are in fact richard ramirez (for gomez) and indian janitor whois 5'2 and bald from mumbai (for the ebony foid)

@FaceandBBC
@Gengar

ramirez would kill blanco

indian janitor would beatup jayz
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ and FaceandBBC
Worst user of this forum by far
 
  • +1
Reactions: Meteor21 and itzyaboyJJ
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
View attachment 3730756
This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
View attachment 3730765
I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
DNR
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
everybody knows celebrity couples are pre-chosen by the elites to keep the masses on edge
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
View attachment 3730756
This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
View attachment 3730765
I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
Shut the fuck up nigga, they're statusmaxxed that's why. Bunch of horseshit baloney in this thread.
 
  • +1
Reactions: itzyaboyJJ
Never use celebs as examples its all a psyop and publicity stunt
 
Just be confident
I am tall billionaire that everyone knows and have no problem with women :lul:
 
That's not the point here. Yeah, you'd all be right if we were talking about JayZ or Benny Blanco and some random ass bitch, but we're speaking about Beyoncé and Selena Gomez, arguably some of the most influential artists of the last few decades, in this context there's no monetary or status mismatch, they're at the very least relative (or in the case of Benny and Selena, she's better off having literally 5x the amount of money and who knows how many times offer the fame that Benny Blanco has). So yeah, these women have zero business dating either of them, considering the status and money they themselves have.

That's the whole point of this, again, you're right if we're speaking about a hot bitch that nobody knows, dating some ugly rich artist. But we're speaking about an ugly rich artist dating another relatively attractive rich artist. I'm sorry, but being statusmaxxed doesn't work in that context because they're also statusmaxxed, and even more than the dudes.

@flatcheck213 @jeremyy
 
But we're speaking about an ugly rich artist dating another relatively attractive rich artist
Who was Selena Gomez dating before him?
 
Who was Selena Gomez dating before him?
She was fucking Selena Gomez? 😭 I think they started dating in like 2024, years before that, she was a singer and actor. She's like also a billionaire (1.3 billion dollars), while Benny Blanco isn't even an artist, he's just a music composer, he writes the lyrics for others. Mind you, he's well-known in the industry and has made really famous songs, but nobody knew him before he dated Selena, and he's also worth like 50 millions.
 
She was fucking Selena Gomez? 😭 I think they started dating in like 2024, years before that, she was a singer and actor. She's like also a billionaire (1.3 billion dollars), while Benny Blanco isn't even an artist, he's just a music composer, he writes the lyrics for others. Mind you, he's well-known in the industry and has made really famous songs, but nobody knew him before he dated Selena, and he's also worth like 50 millions.
no ive meant that Bieber situation
 
What's with the pfp? Are you a sassy gay man? Gtfo of here
1000047945
 
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
View attachment 3730756
This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
View attachment 3730765
I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
after Stacy was done with Chad in her prime and broke her heart, she settled for Jeffrey for stability when she got old
 
ik guys who pull stacys and are chopped its just they got aura and status
 
What is this intended to prove? Both of them are post wall and went hard on the cock carousel with far better looking dudes in their prime, I would agree with you if they settled with those monstrosities in their prime but that’s not the case
 
Breaking news: Retard with 1.5k posts on a blackpill forum just discovered the oofy-doofy theory.
 
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
View attachment 3730756
This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
View attachment 3730765
I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
bro anyone can pull, if your not chad no female will be physicually attracted to you.
 
Breaking news: Retard with 1.5k posts on a blackpill forum just discovered the oofy-doofy theory.
Hey man honestly? Jump off a fucking bridge lol. Acting like you didn't discover that shit a week ago from a K. Shami video

Anyway, that's not really my point regardless
 
There are a couple doomer bozos over here claiming that if you're not a Chad you cannot even pull at all, first, that's not even true, because how the hell were they conjured into existed hadn't it been for their normie parents coming together? But that's not the point, I don't like to say I subscribe to any "pill" philosophy, all of them have level of truth, some level of coping, and some very deranged ideas that do not fully translate into reality, despite this, I do think the bluepill and redpill are much better than the blackpill at their extremes.

What I mean is, an extreme bluepiller is just coping and completey disconnected from reality but at least they're happy, an extreme redpill is also very disconnected from reality but at least they're making some progress, but an extreme blackpiller not only is coping, disconnected from reality, but they're also fucking pathetic. I definately lean into a neutral red-blackpill, I believe that's the ultimate "true"pill.

Looks are very fucking important, probably one of the most important things in the world if you hope to find success in any field (romantic, sexual, career), but at the same time people in this forum treat it like it's the only thing that will get you success with women, when that's not true, there are many outliers out there, and I'd like to present two examples I recently noticed.

SELENA GOMEZ & BENNY BLANCO
That's the most talked about celebrety couple I can think of at the moment.
View attachment 3730756
This man is an absolute normie, sub5, yet he's dating fucking Selena Gomez, "Oh, but he's rich and famous", yeah, but so is Selena, and it's not even a comparison. Benny Blanco is just a fairly successful songwriter, he's not a performer, he never actually found success as an artist, all he does is write famous pop songs, his net worth is estimated to be around 50 million dollars. While Selena Gomez is one of the most famous artists of the last 10 years, she's hundreds, thousands of times more famous than Benny Blanco, and her net worth is estimated to be 1.3 billion dollars, that's over 20 times how much money Benny Blanco has. Selena has SO MANY more options, yet he still chose him.

Why? Who the hell knows, apparently it's because Benny is such a "nice" guy, and they connect very well emotionally, I call bullshit, but whatever I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise. But this is the point I'm trying to make, a sub5 is dating Selena Gomez, I'd say she's an MTB or low HTB, but still she's more attractive than Benny is, has more money, more fame, and more dating options, fuck it, they're even around the same height, yet she still chose him?! It's not over, dawg.


JAY-Z & BEYONCÉ
This one is less extreme than the previous case, and they're an old couple
View attachment 3730765
I don't care what anyone says, Beyoncé is a baddie, and well Jay-Z is... how can I put it, fucking ugly? But this time I'll give it to you, he's 6'2"/188cm and has a net worth of 2.5 billion USD, while Beyoncé doesn't reach the billion yet. But it is still a great example, yes, Jay-Z has more money because of his business ventures, and he's tall, but Beyoncé is Beyoncé, she's considerably more famous than Jay-Z, and even if she has less total net worth, who cares? They're still both ultrarich, similar to Selena, BEYONCÉ HAD SO MANY DATING OPTIONS, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY MORE ATTRACTIVE MEN. YET STILL DECIDED TO MARRY JAY-Z AND HAVE 3 CHILDREN WITH HIM.

JAY-Z IS A FUCKING SUB4 DAWG, HOW?!


TAKEAWAY
This people are ultra famous and ultra wealthy, but both of these couples are comparable, therefore we can extrapolate their situations to the average individual. I'm not saying looks don't matter, DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LOOKS, but It's pretty obvious that your ability to talk to women, your game, your social status and money can definitely make up for any looks shortcomings and even allow you the ability to get with women way higher in attractiveness than you.

Despite cases like this, and many others, even among normal people, there are still bozos, drowning in their own miserable existences claiming that "normies can't find love" or that "it starts at HTN". No bro, women don't want you because you're ugly, they don't want you because you're ugly, you're short, you have ZERO ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THE ROMANTICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY, you're not rich, or famous. Maybe you can't fix your height or face, but you can certainly do something about the other things, and you don't even need to be extraordinary at any of them, just try to improve them as much as you can and that raises your chances to get with an attractive woman significantly.

Extreme blackpillcels stop coping, actually do something with your miserable lives and maybe some woman, any woman, will want you, but that will not happen as long as you keep idolizing looks, you keep being a unidimensional individual, who's not even good at the thing they praise so much, lol. It's not over brah, because if women with more fame, money and options than their partners chose normies, who's to say you can't be with an attractive, non-famous, non-rich woman?
Either it's be a millionaire or a chad
Both are highly unlikely with low probability
But u can try
Anyways being a millionaire has higher probability than to ascend
 
bro anyone can pull, if your not chad no female will be physicually attracted to you.
Yeah, physical attraction does come down to your PSL wholeheartedly, but something the BP overlooks a lot is how female attraction really works. From an evolutionary perspective men are wired to seek women for their physical attractive and this causes the issue, because women are not men, they feel attraction differently than we do, so by trying to extrapolate the male experience to them, we're leaving a lot on the table, and then we end up with unidimensional blackpilled ways of thinking.

Physical looks is just one piece of the puzzle, we know through evolutionary psychology that females in mammals and birds do not only seek that factor, social status, wealth, social queues, etc., are equally important, but the issue is that as men we think "titties hot and nothing else matter" and we try to act like that's how women think too, so the result is that we put too much weight on how important looks are, and we even go as far as thinking that other forms of attraction aren't "real attraction", like any type of this is any less shallow or different than the other, it's all part of an equation at then ends, if you're hot because you're a chad or because you're a billionaire it doesn't matter, the product and mechanism is essentially the same.

Again, not me making shit up, this is the lens that science uses to understand the biological and psychosocial implications of attraction in various species, including our own.
 
Yeah, physical attraction does come down to your PSL wholeheartedly, but something the BP overlooks a lot is how female attraction really works. From an evolutionary perspective men are wired to seek women for their physical attractive and this causes the issue, because women are not men, they feel attraction differently than we do, so by trying to extrapolate the male experience to them, we're leaving a lot on the table, and then we end up with unidimensional blackpilled ways of thinking.

Physical looks is just one piece of the puzzle, we know through evolutionary psychology that females in mammals and birds do not only seek that factor, social status, wealth, social queues, etc., are equally important, but the issue is that as men we think "titties hot and nothing else matter" and we try to act like that's how women think too, so the result is that we put too much weight on how important looks are, and we even go as far as thinking that other forms of attraction aren't "real attraction", like any type of this is any less shallow or different than the other, it's all part of an equation at then ends, if you're hot because you're a chad or because you're a billionaire it doesn't matter, the product and mechanism is essentially the same.

Again, not me making shit up, this is the lens that science uses to understand the biological and psychosocial implications of attraction in various species, including our own.
but objectively looks matter the most because of the pretty privilege you get out of them lol
 
Hey man honestly? Jump off a fucking bridge lol. Acting like you didn't discover that shit a week ago from a K. Shami video

Anyway, that's not really my point regardless
Who the fuck is K.shami? Jfl at ur low iq
 
this is real im barely mtn and my girl is like htn atleast most girls ive pulled were wayyy better looking than me and im not statusmaxxed or rich either
 

Similar threads

Liferuiner
Replies
5
Views
284
Seong Gi-Hun
Seong Gi-Hun
Zeekie
Replies
72
Views
829
AverageCurryEnjoyer
AverageCurryEnjoyer
NeedHelpB4School
Replies
5
Views
407
incelhunter
incelhunter
Tylenolmaxxer
Replies
1
Views
51
FastBananaCEO
FastBananaCEO
McSkziofren
Success Yh
Replies
1
Views
41
lfm_foreeever9
lfm_foreeever9

Users who are viewing this thread

  • chiroptera
Back
Top