Getting marpe/mse and testing a theory of mine ask questions if u want.

[SEA FIT]

Getting a marpe soon im planning to expand about only 4mm of intermolarwidth with marpe But doing soft maxxes since my sutures are loose forward growth of the maxilla should be easier to get I will let u guys know what works and since marpe is a looksmin for most (im doing 4mm only just enough for the sutures to loosen and a slightly wider palate while fixing my more expanded left side) Roughly 2.5mm on right and 1.5 on left side to even it out by slanting the device. Though this takes precise panning and most mse/marpe providers do not know how to do this I wrote about this and how to do it in my other threads and on how to use it fix asymmetry. Total of expansion is 6.5mm. 4mm skeletal, 2.5mm dental expansion. Ask any questions.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

forward growth of the maxilla should be easier to get

how do you plan on doing this after marpe/mse

 

[SEA FIT]

how do you plan on doing this after marpe/mse

Its alot of stuff, But starting with a new face mask I made better then the one a ortho gives you which doesnt cause downward, Face mask gives forward True, but it's forward + downward movement in most cases because advancement occurs along the occlusion plane and almost everybody has a slightly downwards plane. Starting number 1 is that you have good posture Because mse plus bad posture lengthens the face and causes downward growth. People down play but switching ur daily habits how you sleep, If you sleep elevated with a thick instead of a thin pillow ur neck is gonna be in a forward head posture for 8 hours a day which is more then ur daily 10 min stretching routine or some stupid thumbpulling routine habits matter alot. An Ideal forward maxilla isnt just from a facemask since it causes ur face to look weird unless your problem is class 3, Switching up ur habits over time causes more then just adding a chewing routine to help you then do fuck all everyday. Pulling on the maxilla itself since ur sutures are loose is what ur meant to do. Though marpe is a painful thing and most wont be able to do this. Fixing ur habits is number one how you eat, how you sleep , ur posture, how u breath and how long u sitdown on a chair doom scrolling or playing video games. Its most likely during the marpe not after it.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

how you sleep

what way

new face mask I made better

how did you make it, and what is your plan for the mandible cus it will get left behind

 

[SEA FIT]

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[SEA FIT]

what way

how did you make it, and what is your plan for the mandible cus it will get left behind

By getting more forward maxilla, More overjet is created a big misconception here is that a overbite, deepbite and overjet can ony be fixed when ur young. Which is not true and can be fixed at any age just the older you are the longer it takes since its a misplacement of the mandible not a recessed jaw. Mandibular wings which can be placed juts ur jaw and mimics the mechanics of a herbest/forsus appliance but without the push back of the maxilla. Just the forward of the jaw. More overjet means more room to bring the mandible forward. sleeping On ur back not on a very soft surface as well is ideal.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

By getting more forward maxilla, More overjet is created a big misconception here is that a overbite, deepbite and overjet can ony be fixed when ur young. Which is not true and can be fixed at any age just the older you are the longer it takes since its a misplacement of the mandible not a recessed jaw. Mandibular wings which can be placed juts ur jaw and mimics the mechanics of a herbest/forsus appliance but without the push back of the maxilla. Just the forward of the jaw. More overjet means more room to bring the mandible forward. sleeping On ur back not on a very soft surface as well is ideal.

Since gravity is pulling shit down, technically you could be recessing yourself sleeping on your back but the force probably isn't enough for even insignificant effects

Just the forward of the jaw

So you can't obtain mandibular growth using ortho just pulling the jaw forward. But I remember reading an article of 1-3mm growth using ortho appliances like herbst and shi

 

[SEA FIT]

So you can't obtain mandibular growth using ortho just pulling the jaw forward. But I remember reading an article of 1-3mm growth using ortho appliances like herbst and shi

The thing is this mimics the herbest appliance but without retrusion of the maxilla.

 

[why not me?]

yo dude i have a deep bite and you seem like you know a lot. i have class 2 division 2, went to an ortho and he said he is gonna put on brackets and procline my upper incisors. i heard braces can recess your maxilla so i didnt wanna do that shi, i heard molar extrusion can lenghten ur face and solve class 2 div 2 in the best way. what do i do?

 

[SEA FIT]

yo dude i have a deep bite and you seem like you know a lot. i have class 2 division 2, went to an ortho and he said he is gonna put on brackets and procline my upper incisors. i heard braces can recess your maxilla so i didnt wanna do that shi, i heard molar extrusion can lenghten ur face and solve class 2 div 2 in the best way. what do i do?

Depends, If he justs proclines the upper incisors he is just camouflaging ur bite not doing anything to bring the lower forward and though it may seem to u on the outside ur overbite is fixed since the teeth are in a different postion the main problem which most people are fixing ur overbite for (ur facial aestehics) is still there. You want to focus on the mandible. Find another ortho. I wrote a solution for some that could work in another thread I made. I can't really tell whats best for you or not without seeing you.

 

[SEA FIT]

how to fix AN overbite overjet deepbite without surgery

I been seeing alot of people asking "how do I fix my overbite" "only at a certain age you can fix it" Depending on ur overbite you can fix it at any age the only problem is how much longer it will take since your older. Many people don't understand that a overbite isn't skeletal or recession its...

looksmax.org

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Its alot of stuff, But starting with a new face mask I made better then the one a ortho gives you which doesnt cause downward, Face mask gives forward True, but it's forward + downward movement

how did you make your own

 

[ScienceCel]

Depends, If he justs proclines the upper incisors he is just camouflaging ur bite not doing anything to bring the lower forward and though it may seem to u on the outside ur overbite is fixed since the teeth are in a different postion the main problem which most people are fixing ur overbite for (ur facial aestehics) is still there. You want to focus on the mandible. Find another ortho. I wrote a solution for some that could work in another thread I made. I can't really tell whats best for you or not without seeing you.

wdym marpe is a looksmix? i thought it just have poisitives?

 

[aac21]

wdym marpe is a looksmix? i thought it just have poisitives?

some people say it can cause asymmetry and overall it doesnt directly cause forward mandibular growth so its really only for people with narrow palates strictly.

 

[ScienceCel]

some people say it can cause asymmetry and overall it doesnt directly cause forward mandibular growth so its really only for people with narrow palates strictly.

my pallate is slightly narrow, im getting marpe but also bimax, ccw, and genio after. is it worth in my case?

 

[BPED19]

Getting a marpe soon im planning to expand about only 4mm of intermolarwidth with marpe But doing soft maxxes since my sutures are loose forward growth of the maxilla should be easier to get I will let u guys know what works and since marpe is a looksmin for most (im doing 4mm only just enough for the sutures to loosen and a slightly wider palate while fixing my more expanded left side) Roughly 2.5mm on right and 1.5 on left side to even it out by slanting the device. Though this takes precise panning and most mse/marpe providers do not know how to do this I wrote about this and how to do it in my other threads and on how to use it fix asymmetry. Total of expansion is 6.5mm. 4mm skeletal, 2.5mm dental expansion. Ask any questions.

why are you saying marpe is a looksmin for most ?

 

[BPED19]

ok

some people say it can cause asymmetry and overall it doesnt directly cause forward mandibular growth so its really only for people with narrow palates strictly.

okayyyy so if my palate isnt that narrow what should i go for ?

 

[aac21]

ok

okayyyy so if my palate isnt that narrow what should i go for ?

depends what your issue is, if its a recessed mandible then bsso or mandbiular appliance