Getting over the bimax wait

[Sodoku]

For those of us saving up for bimax / other surgeries, how are you guys coping with the wait?

Even though I know I'll ascend completely in 2 years, I wish I can just do it here and now. It's almost tempting to just rot until then, eagerly looking forward to that day

Any tactics with just waiting?

 

[notsocommonthumb]

how much are you paying?

 

[Avertion]

For those of us saving up for bimax / other surgeries, how are you guys coping with the wait?

Even though I know I'll ascend completely in 2 years, I wish I can just do it here and now. It's almost tempting to just rot until then, eagerly looking forward to that day

Any tactics with just waiting?

Joined Aug 11, 2018? Jesus bro

 

[Sodoku]

how much are you paying?

I'm assuming $20k. Currently saving about $700 a month dedicated to bimax - goal is to be ready by Dec 25 / Jan 26

 

[notsocommonthumb]

I'm assuming $20k. Currently saving about $700 a month dedicated to bimax - goal is to be ready by Dec 25 / Jan 26

25k for me, im halfway there and putting 500 dollars a month

 

[Sodoku]

25k for me, im halfway there and putting 500 dollars a month

Good shit, hope it goes well

have you picked out a surgeon?

 

[BimaxLaser]

25k for me, im halfway there and putting 500 dollars a month

Show me ur side in pm please I think you only showed front

 

[notsocommonthumb]

Good shit, hope it goes well

have you picked out a surgeon?

https://www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/

im investing the saved money in crypto as well so i think ill be able to afford it by late 2025 maybe summer 2025 if i wageslave

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

For those of us saving up for bimax / other surgeries, how are you guys coping with the wait?

Even though I know I'll ascend completely in 2 years, I wish I can just do it here and now. It's almost tempting to just rot until then, eagerly looking forward to that day

Any tactics with just waiting?

Work on improving whatever you can now: gym, leanmaxx, get out there and socialise as much as possible, and try to enjoy your life as you would try to if the ascension was never on the cards.

I had a big ascension from bimax but it doesn’t solve all your problems.

 

[Sodoku]

https://www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/

im investing the saved money in crypto as well so i think ill be able to afford it by late 2025 maybe summer 2025 if i wageslave

inshallah

Work on improving whatever you can now: gym, leanmaxx, get out there and socialise as much as possible, and try to enjoy your life as you would try to if the ascension was never on the cards.

I had a big ascension from bimax but it doesn’t solve all your problems.

Fuaark when you see an ascension like this, you just want it NOW


In all seriousness though, I feel like I shouldn't be socialising until I get bimax. Only then can I go out there and enjoy life. V bad mindset to have but I guess I just need to learn how to live life without it

I think I remember your threads, congrats on the bimax by the way. Life any better?

 

[iseeblue9]

Work on improving whatever you can now: gym, leanmaxx, get out there and socialise as much as possible, and try to enjoy your life as you would try to if the ascension was never on the cards.

I had a big ascension from bimax but it doesn’t solve all your problems.

all of your problems? whats the problem left

 

[yex]

inshallah


Fuaark when you see an ascension like this, you just want it NOW


In all seriousness though, I feel like I shouldn't be socialising until I get bimax. Only then can I go out there and enjoy life. V bad mindset to have but I guess I just need to learn how to live life without it

I think I remember your threads, congrats on the bimax by the way. Life any better?

Faurk, honestly saved his life..

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

I think I remember your threads, congrats on the bimax by the way. Life any better?

all of your problems? whats the problem left

Life is somewhat better I suppose, I have absolutely 0 regrets about the bimax but it feels like it has given me significant potential for a better life that is mostly still unrealised.

E.g. OLD (and indeed all dating) used to be a hopeless endeavour for me. Now I can land dates with girls I find attractive, but man is it exhausting. I get lots of reasonably good matches but waste so much time swiping and chatting to get ignored and flaked on in the vast majority of cases, I hate to contribute to the doomer narrative but I do believe dating truly is fucked now and awful for men unless you’re at the very top.

I have slayed a little bit, it’s not particularly fulfilling. I think a sad fact of life is that the pain of not having is much greater than the joy of having.

Call me bluepilled but I think an LTR with a quality girl is the most fulfilling thing to have. It nearly happened to me recently but went wrong and it’s the only time I’ve been close. But I would never have had that chance without the bimax.

I am a bit non-NT and had bad lonely teen years and early 20s. It’s difficult to say how much was caused by genetic vs environmental factors because I seemed fairly normal early in life in terms of having friends, had about a decade of awfulness and now I can feign NT-ness pretty well and people seem to perceive me much better post-surgery and don’t think I’m odd. I kind of have like “age dysphoria” though due to the wasted years/missed experiences. At 26 and out of full time education, getting into normal social circles is nightmare difficulty, so that does cause a continued suffering.

If you asked me if I would trade back to my old face to have had a healthy social teens and early 20s, I probably would, but I suppose it’s not a fair question. It would probably never have been completely normal with teen love and all that due to how I looked but I think my extreme introversion was a much bigger issue.

It’s very strange that I’ve had a significant personality shift that began even prior to ascending and I now crave constant social connection and old copes like video games seem meaningless. I have ADHD and think I have mild autism tbh. I always felt more mature than kids my age and uninterested in “popularity contests” and status. Yet I now feel incredibly immature for my age, I wish I could be living an 18 year old party lifestyle, I crave status and validation, particularly from attractive women. I actually look about 20, so all that holds me back from that is my chronological age and the fact that my full time education years are gone. Everybody seems to think they look younger than they do but people are constantly in disbelief when I tell them my age.

This turned into a bit of a life story.

Tl;dr: life isn’t great and poor formative years do a lot of damage, but to be in this situation and to have a LTN face, things felt truly hopeless, at least in terms of women.

Now I have serious hope and potential and that is incredibly valuable. I think I’m likely to find a decent girl to LTR if I keep trying as exhausting as it is. I also try to slay in the meantime for that dopamine rush even though getting the prize has been less fulfilling than I hoped.

 

[literalgoatted]

For those of us saving up for bimax / other surgeries, how are you guys coping with the wait?

Even though I know I'll ascend completely in 2 years, I wish I can just do it here and now. It's almost tempting to just rot until then, eagerly looking forward to that day

Any tactics with just waiting?

doctor offered me one for free 4 underbite

but i also have to wait about 2yrs for bimax since only 18 and skull isnt done

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

Life is somewhat better I suppose, I have absolutely 0 regrets about the bimax but it feels like it has given me significant potential for a better life that is mostly still unrealised.

E.g. OLD (and indeed all dating) used to be a hopeless endeavour for me. Now I can land dates with girls I find attractive, but man is it exhausting. I get lots of reasonably good matches but waste so much time swiping and chatting to get ignored and flaked on in the vast majority of cases, I hate to contribute to the doomer narrative but I do believe dating truly is fucked now and awful for men unless you’re at the very top.

I have slayed a little bit, it’s not particularly fulfilling. I think a sad fact of life is that the pain of not having is much greater than the joy of having.

Call me bluepilled but I think an LTR with a quality girl is the most fulfilling thing to have. It nearly happened to me recently but went wrong and it’s the only time I’ve been close. But I would never have had that chance without the bimax.

I am a bit non-NT and had bad lonely teen years and early 20s. It’s difficult to say how much was caused by genetic vs environmental factors because I seemed fairly normal early in life in terms of having friends, had about a decade of awfulness and now I can feign NT-ness pretty well and people seem to perceive me much better post-surgery and don’t think I’m odd. I kind of have like “age dysphoria” though due to the wasted years/missed experiences. At 26 and out of full time education, getting into normal social circles is nightmare difficulty, so that does cause a continued suffering.

If you asked me if I would trade back to my old face to have had a healthy social teens and early 20s, I probably would, but I suppose it’s not a fair question. It would probably never have been completely normal with teen love and all that due to how I looked but I think my extreme introversion was a much bigger issue.

It’s very strange that I’ve had a significant personality shift that began even prior to ascending and I now crave constant social connection and old copes like video games seem meaningless. I have ADHD and think I have mild autism tbh. I always felt more mature than kids my age and uninterested in “popularity contests” and status. Yet I now feel incredibly immature for my age, I wish I could be living an 18 year old party lifestyle, I crave status and validation, particularly from attractive women. I actually look about 20, so all that holds me back from that is my chronological age and the fact that my full time education years are gone. Everybody seems to think they look younger than they do but people are constantly in disbelief when I tell them my age.

This turned into a bit of a life story.

Tl;dr: life isn’t great and poor formative years do a lot of damage, but to be in this situation and to have a LTN face, things felt truly hopeless, at least in terms of women.

Now I have serious hope and potential and that is incredibly valuable. I think I’m likely to find a decent girl to LTR if I keep trying as exhausting as it is. I also try to slay in the meantime for that dopamine rush even though getting the prize has been less fulfilling than I hoped.

And to add on to this, I am currently living this weird experience where I am working a remote tech job with 0 social scene and back at university again on a part-time basis. In some ways I am “making up for lost years” by partying and dating and slaying uni girls.

Sounds like the dream but I don’t live with students (as it’s not feasible for multiple reasons), my course is tiny and exclusively oldcels, so my only social avenue is the uni sports team I’m in and messaging girls through IG and OLD. I feel very much like a side character with a glass wall between me and the real uni social scene comprised of course friends and people that live together or met in first year. My age is also now a huge failo to most uni girls, and yet only the number. I blend in perfectly looks-wise (and even personality tbh) and seem to have the most appeal to girls around 19-20 or so.

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

doctor offered me one for free 4 underbite

but i also have to wait about 2yrs for bimax since only 18 and skull isnt done

I understand the pain but ascending at 20 isn’t bad. I didn’t until 25. Most never do if they can’t get it for free.

 

[Sodoku]

Life is somewhat better I suppose, I have absolutely 0 regrets about the bimax but it feels like it has given me significant potential for a better life that is mostly still unrealised.

E.g. OLD (and indeed all dating) used to be a hopeless endeavour for me. Now I can land dates with girls I find attractive, but man is it exhausting. I get lots of reasonably good matches but waste so much time swiping and chatting to get ignored and flaked on in the vast majority of cases, I hate to contribute to the doomer narrative but I do believe dating truly is fucked now and awful for men unless you’re at the very top.

I have slayed a little bit, it’s not particularly fulfilling. I think a sad fact of life is that the pain of not having is much greater than the joy of having.

Call me bluepilled but I think an LTR with a quality girl is the most fulfilling thing to have. It nearly happened to me recently but went wrong and it’s the only time I’ve been close. But I would never have had that chance without the bimax.

I am a bit non-NT and had bad lonely teen years and early 20s. It’s difficult to say how much was caused by genetic vs environmental factors because I seemed fairly normal early in life in terms of having friends, had about a decade of awfulness and now I can feign NT-ness pretty well and people seem to perceive me much better post-surgery and don’t think I’m odd. I kind of have like “age dysphoria” though due to the wasted years/missed experiences. At 26 and out of full time education, getting into normal social circles is nightmare difficulty, so that does cause a continued suffering.

If you asked me if I would trade back to my old face to have had a healthy social teens and early 20s, I probably would, but I suppose it’s not a fair question. It would probably never have been completely normal with teen love and all that due to how I looked but I think my extreme introversion was a much bigger issue.

It’s very strange that I’ve had a significant personality shift that began even prior to ascending and I now crave constant social connection and old copes like video games seem meaningless. I have ADHD and think I have mild autism tbh. I always felt more mature than kids my age and uninterested in “popularity contests” and status. Yet I now feel incredibly immature for my age, I wish I could be living an 18 year old party lifestyle, I crave status and validation, particularly from attractive women. I actually look about 20, so all that holds me back from that is my chronological age and the fact that my full time education years are gone. Everybody seems to think they look younger than they do but people are constantly in disbelief when I tell them my age.

This turned into a bit of a life story.

Tl;dr: life isn’t great and poor formative years do a lot of damage, but to be in this situation and to have a LTN face, things felt truly hopeless, at least in terms of women.

Now I have serious hope and potential and that is incredibly valuable. I think I’m likely to find a decent girl to LTR if I keep trying as exhausting as it is. I also try to slay in the meantime for that dopamine rush even though getting the prize has been less fulfilling than I hoped.

And to add on to this, I am currently living this weird experience where I am working a remote tech job with 0 social scene and back at university again on a part-time basis. In some ways I am “making up for lost years” by partying and dating and slaying uni girls.

Sounds like the dream but I don’t live with students (as it’s not feasible for multiple reasons), my course is tiny and exclusively oldcels, so my only social avenue is the uni sports team I’m in and messaging girls through IG and OLD. I feel very much like a side character with a glass wall between me and the real uni social scene comprised of course friends and people that live together or met in first year. My age is also now a huge failo to most uni girls, and yet only the number. I blend in perfectly looks-wise (and even personality tbh) and seem to have the most appeal to girls around 19-20 or so.

I see. You've answered my post perfectly then. The answer is to live now, just enjoy life as it is now.

One thing I realised is that ugly or not, social circle is a real thing and no amount of looksmaxxing can make up for whether you have friends or not. Of course, being aspie or non-NT ruins this but normal men also experience having very few friends. The more you age, the harder it is to build that social circle. Even at 21, I still feel that I don't have a lot of friends and I'm definitely not autistic jfl

Very insightful post, the grass is always greener. Obvs I'm happy that you ascended. You should consider backpacking if you're doing a remote tech job, just slay whilst abroad. How long ago was your surgery?

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

Yes I agree completely. Whilst I am not a fan of toxic positivity and convincing yourself that problems don’t exist, there is definitely truth in the value of appreciating what is in front of you and not suffering from want.

Yeah, I think social circle is generally more important than looks for a happy life. It’s slightly confounded because good looking people receive positive reinforcement which builds confidence and makes it easier for them to make friends, but plenty of ugly people still manage to have close friends. But It’s also harder than ever to build social circle post-education because people socialise less now due to the internet and the average age in society has been increasing due to declining birth rates so you leave uni and everyone around you is old.

I could write a whole damn thesis on it but I’m one of those people who thinks the internet and social media has basically plunged us into a dystopia. Even my looks would have been less of a problem without the “inflation” it’s caused.

Unfortunately my job does have a stipulation that it must be done in the UK. It would be detected if I logged in from another country. It is probably possible to circumvent this with a VPN on a router something but it’s extremely high risk and also maybe has complicated tax implications. It’s a golden handcuffs job because it’s good in terms of pay and stress, etc, but when it’s the main thing I have to do all week, I wish it provided me some social interaction.

My surgery was January this year. Had to focus on recovery at first so really this “new life” began like end of February.

Despite what I said and stand by about needing to live in the present, having a goal is always good to keep your mind occupied. I remember pre-surgery when I was spending lots of time researching it, I wasn’t exactly having an exciting time but my mind was very occupied and driven so I wasn’t sitting around thinking about my shitty life.

I’m still severely lacking in close social ties, but I’ve done a lot more this year and made a lot of acquaintances. I feel a lot more socially competent especially as my smile was so fucked up before, that was one of the worst parts tbh of my old face and so I’d rarely smile and come across way more aspie.

 

[chrishell]

Yes I agree completely. Whilst I am not a fan of toxic positivity and convincing yourself that problems don’t exist, there is definitely truth in the value of appreciating what is in front of you and not suffering from want.

Yeah, I think social circle is generally more important than looks for a happy life. It’s slightly confounded because good looking people receive positive reinforcement which builds confidence and makes it easier for them to make friends, but plenty of ugly people still manage to have close friends. But It’s also harder than ever to build social circle post-education because people socialise less now due to the internet and the average age in society has been increasing due to declining birth rates so you leave uni and everyone around you is old.

I could write a whole damn thesis on it but I’m one of those people who thinks the internet and social media has basically plunged us into a dystopia. Even my looks would have been less of a problem without the “inflation” it’s caused.

Unfortunately my job does have a stipulation that it must be done in the UK. It would be detected if I logged in from another country. It is probably possible to circumvent this with a VPN on a router something but it’s extremely high risk and also maybe has complicated tax implications. It’s a golden handcuffs job because it’s good in terms of pay and stress, etc, but when it’s the main thing I have to do all week, I wish it provided me some social interaction.

My surgery was January this year. Had to focus on recovery at first so really this “new life” began like end of February.

Despite what I said and stand by about needing to live in the present, having a goal is always good to keep your mind occupied. I remember pre-surgery when I was spending lots of time researching it, I wasn’t exactly having an exciting time but my mind was very occupied and driven so I wasn’t sitting around thinking about my shitty life.

I’m still severely lacking in close social ties, but I’ve done a lot more this year and made a lot of acquaintances. I feel a lot more socially competent especially as my smile was so fucked up before, that was one of the worst parts tbh of my old face and so I’d rarely smile and come across way more aspie.

I have a similar situation to you. I'm 27, had bimax in December last year, was a complete transformation, my job is practically remote so I spend all my time on the computer at home, but still feel an urge to make up for 18-21, and I am university-adjacent but still feel a glass wall, etc...

I don't think it has fully hit me yet even almost 1 year postop how different I look and how different the impression I give off. But that is probably something anyone getting the surgery will need to know, the change of sense of self wont be instant and will be very gradual as you arrive at a new self esteem-external treatment homeostasis. Which is just to say, with respect to op's concern, when people think they should be waiting for the actual bimax operation they should be waiting for 1.5 year postop when all swelling is definitively gone and they have acclimated to their new sense of self. I looked bloated as hell until 5 months postop at least.

But I also had a cheek implant that did not turn out well and will likely need it removed (infraorbital component is too strong, doesn't look that uncanny but just makes my midface look really old in certain lighting); I am having to save up money to do that. It is really bothering me and preventing me from being able to appreciate my very good bimax result.

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

I have a similar situation to you. I'm 27, had bimax in December last year, was a complete transformation, my job is practically remote so I spend all my time on the computer at home, but still feel an urge to make up for 18-21, and I am university-adjacent but still feel a glass wall, etc...

I don't think it has fully hit me yet even almost 1 year postop how different I look and how different the impression I give off. But that is probably something anyone getting the surgery will need to know, the change of sense of self wont be instant and will be very gradual as you arrive at a new self esteem-external treatment homeostasis. Which is just to say, with respect to op's concern, when people think they should be waiting for the actual bimax operation they should be waiting for 1.5 year postop when all swelling is definitively gone and they have acclimated to their new sense of self. I looked bloated as hell until 5 months postop at least.

But I also had a cheek implant that did not turn out well and will likely need it removed (infraorbital component is too strong, doesn't look that uncanny but just makes my midface look really old in certain lighting); I am having to save up money to do that. It is really bothering me and preventing me from being able to appreciate my very good bimax result.

Nearly had cheek implants as well but ultimately I think I’m glad I didn’t. I saw many claims that they’re basically necessary after bimax for balance. Definitely not the case with me and my movements were moderate at least.

Maybe I would still benefit, but it’s significant extra expense and risk of uncannyness, whilst the bimax was directly addressing a major failo: my short face syndrome.

I think I was quite lucky with swelling and it seems like it was basically all gone at like 3 months. I’m sure there and was and even still is some but not noticeable even to me.

Hard to tell bcos I had masseter botox before surgery as I was a jaw clencher and didn’t want to damage my healing jaw, and so I think my face has rewidened as they’ve regained strength. Before this had happened I was briefly concerned that maybe my face was now too long post surgery, but taking pics from a distance to minimise lens distortion, I see that’s clearly not the case and the ratios are now very good, even according to some online tool I saw someone post here once (no not umax or dumb shit like that).

Honestly, I really like it when I find other org users with similar experiences or who find themselves in similar situations. Often now this site seems to be young teens asking retarded questions and I wonder why I am even visiting the site still.

Yet the knowledge in this strange place gave me the tools to significantly change my life trajectory.

 

[moze]

I have a similar situation to you. I'm 27, had bimax in December last year, was a complete transformation, my job is practically remote so I spend all my time on the computer at home, but still feel an urge to make up for 18-21, and I am university-adjacent but still feel a glass wall, etc...

I don't think it has fully hit me yet even almost 1 year postop how different I look and how different the impression I give off. But that is probably something anyone getting the surgery will need to know, the change of sense of self wont be instant and will be very gradual as you arrive at a new self esteem-external treatment homeostasis. Which is just to say, with respect to op's concern, when people think they should be waiting for the actual bimax operation they should be waiting for 1.5 year postop when all swelling is definitively gone and they have acclimated to their new sense of self. I looked bloated as hell until 5 months postop at least.

But I also had a cheek implant that did not turn out well and will likely need it removed (infraorbital component is too strong, doesn't look that uncanny but just makes my midface look really old in certain lighting); I am having to save up money to do that. It is really bothering me and preventing me from being able to appreciate my very good bimax result.

Do you think saddle infra can look uncanny?i have tear tough and dark circles i was thinkih of it

 

[Vajra-]

Honestly, I really like it when I find other org users with similar experiences or who find themselves in similar situations. Often now this site seems to be young teens asking retarded questions and I wonder why I am even visiting the site still.

Yet the knowledge in this strange place gave me the tools to significantly change my life trajectory.

Read every molecule ITT

 

[ectomorpher]

Life is somewhat better I suppose, I have absolutely 0 regrets about the bimax but it feels like it has given me significant potential for a better life that is mostly still unrealised.

E.g. OLD (and indeed all dating) used to be a hopeless endeavour for me. Now I can land dates with girls I find attractive, but man is it exhausting. I get lots of reasonably good matches but waste so much time swiping and chatting to get ignored and flaked on in the vast majority of cases, I hate to contribute to the doomer narrative but I do believe dating truly is fucked now and awful for men unless you’re at the very top.

I have slayed a little bit, it’s not particularly fulfilling. I think a sad fact of life is that the pain of not having is much greater than the joy of having.

Call me bluepilled but I think an LTR with a quality girl is the most fulfilling thing to have. It nearly happened to me recently but went wrong and it’s the only time I’ve been close. But I would never have had that chance without the bimax.

I am a bit non-NT and had bad lonely teen years and early 20s. It’s difficult to say how much was caused by genetic vs environmental factors because I seemed fairly normal early in life in terms of having friends, had about a decade of awfulness and now I can feign NT-ness pretty well and people seem to perceive me much better post-surgery and don’t think I’m odd. I kind of have like “age dysphoria” though due to the wasted years/missed experiences. At 26 and out of full time education, getting into normal social circles is nightmare difficulty, so that does cause a continued suffering.

If you asked me if I would trade back to my old face to have had a healthy social teens and early 20s, I probably would, but I suppose it’s not a fair question. It would probably never have been completely normal with teen love and all that due to how I looked but I think my extreme introversion was a much bigger issue.

It’s very strange that I’ve had a significant personality shift that began even prior to ascending and I now crave constant social connection and old copes like video games seem meaningless. I have ADHD and think I have mild autism tbh. I always felt more mature than kids my age and uninterested in “popularity contests” and status. Yet I now feel incredibly immature for my age, I wish I could be living an 18 year old party lifestyle, I crave status and validation, particularly from attractive women. I actually look about 20, so all that holds me back from that is my chronological age and the fact that my full time education years are gone. Everybody seems to think they look younger than they do but people are constantly in disbelief when I tell them my age.

This turned into a bit of a life story.

Tl;dr: life isn’t great and poor formative years do a lot of damage, but to be in this situation and to have a LTN face, things felt truly hopeless, at least in terms of women.

Now I have serious hope and potential and that is incredibly valuable. I think I’m likely to find a decent girl to LTR if I keep trying as exhausting as it is. I also try to slay in the meantime for that dopamine rush even though getting the prize has been less fulfilling than I hoped.

I feel like I'm reading what awaits me (if it suits me) I'm 18 now, what advice do you have for me? If you think I should do the operation now and get into debt? pm I really have a lot of things to ask you

 

[HardmaxxUser]

For those of us saving up for bimax / other surgeries, how are you guys coping with the wait?

Even though I know I'll ascend completely in 2 years, I wish I can just do it here and now. It's almost tempting to just rot until then, eagerly looking forward to that day

Any tactics with just waiting?

Gotta grind for $. Getting my done in 3-4 months at 18. Cheers mate, i will post everything on here aswell as document my progress on youtube

 

[HardmaxxUser]

Do you think saddle infra can look uncanny?i have tear tough and dark circles i was thinkih of it

Cantho + normal infras is more predictable/customizable.

 

[moze]

Cantho + normal infras is more predictable/customizable.

Bruh… cantho is very very unpredictable and most of the time looks uncanny atleast infra implants are reversible.why do you think saddle is not good?

 

[gravlek]

Gotta grind for $. Getting my done in 3-4 months at 18. Cheers mate, i will post everything on here aswell as document my progress on youtube

What’s your YT channel? If you made one yet, I’ll sub

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

I feel like I'm reading what awaits me (if it suits me) I'm 18 now, what advice do you have for me? If you think I should do the operation now and get into debt? pm I really have a lot of things to ask you

I know it’s the classic cop-out answer, but it depends.

The value judgment depends on how much you have to gain from the surgery. I had a bad but fixable facial flaw (short face syndrome) so addressing that made a huge difference. Most people would not get as much benefit from bimax.

It also depends on what exactly you mean by get into debt. If you mean get a loan that you can feasibly pay back, then there’s a good chance it’s worth it if you’ll see a big improvement from surgery.

If you mean to take on massive debt, that will crush you with interest payments for many years or force you to declare bankruptcy? Highly unlikely to be worth it as that shit will fuck up your life. Although you’re unlikely to be granted the loan if they don’t think you can pay it back, you need proof of income, etc.

It’s difficult to tell anyone exactly what they should do, there are many paths with their own pros and cons. For example you could focus really hard on moneymaxxing / careermaxxing to be able to afford surgeries sooner, but then it’s a case of do you want to throw away your late teens and early 20s just to ascend sooner? For most people, I don’t think that is worth it. It really depends on how much you’re held back by your current looks. Obviously lookism is real and the blackpill is law, but this site is still an echo chamber that often convinces very normal young guys that they are inferior.

Only you as an individual can make the value judgement on these things within the context of your own life and goals.

Feel free to PM if you want to ask more questions in private.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

What’s your YT channel? If you made one yet, I’ll sub

Coming out soon. It’s going to be part of my hardmaxxresults tiktok.
i’ll post it on here when it comes out.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

Bruh… cantho is very very unpredictable and most of the time looks uncanny atleast infra implants are reversible.why do you think saddle is not good?

not unpredictable from a good suregon.
Saddles aren’t customizable brah. not the implant itself, but how the eye will turn out.

Lots of good cantho cases out there. Not too many saddle cases to base a good opinion on them.

Untill then, infra+cantho imo is best.

 

[Understandingz]

For those of us saving up for bimax / other surgeries, how are you guys coping with the wait?

Even though I know I'll ascend completely in 2 years, I wish I can just do it here and now. It's almost tempting to just rot until then, eagerly looking forward to that day

Any tactics with just waiting?

Dont just wait do things in the mean time and dont focus on that 24/7 rent free

 

[Foreverbrad]

What I should be doing:
1. Getting in best physical shape of my life, both strength and cardio
2. Doing n=1 tests of skincare, supplements and clinic procedures to try and find the optimal routine for de-aging post surgery
3. Training MMA or something like that
4. Developing a side hustle

What I’m actually doing:
1. Rotting
2. Drinking
3. DNP
4. Barely exercising

I’ve still got like a year until I’m done with braces and I’m already all set financially but I seriously need to get my shit together. It’s incredibly hard with my mental state though, I am almost certainly clinically depressed at this point.

 

[imnotincelcore]

I have the money but Liam does not have the time
In my country I can't even find a dentist black pilled enough to so the braces, they are all super bluepilled

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

I don't know about you but I avoided social interactions as much as possible

I literally went out for "fun" 3 or 4x in 3 years which was the interval I had all the bimax planning with orthodontics, consulting different surgeons and stuff

I am too self conscious to go out and enjoy the moment while knowing my side profile looks like utter shit, trying to act all confident while aware of that didn't work very well (I am good at social interactions though, I had people inviting me for quite a while but managed to give a convincing excuse to not go out... "I am focusing on myself" lol)

This period wasn't that bad, for most of the days I tried not to think about the surgery and when I did I was filled with motivation and anxiety

Did a lot of things on my own, went back to playing the guitar and a few multiplayer games, worked out at home and maintained a good diet because being fit nowadays is mandatory plus a good pre-existing health before surgery increases the chances of a good recovery.

Everyone got impressed at my recovery, within 1 month and a half I was completely back to my normal routine (I had chin, maxilla and jaw done)


Can I say I ascended? slightly, I definitely look better but not like a GIGA chad and honestly that's okay, I am aware of my genetics and surgery limitations, it's all about measuring the pros and cons of everything along with the risk, I can say I no longer need to fraud my angles due to being recessed or stuff, that feels fucking great
Also got way more comfortable at having eye contact with girls IRL, it's good to catch them looking at you lol. I go out a bit more often now and take more selfies outside, have no fear of approaching someone or being rejected because of my looks. Crazy to know how 10mm of advancement can change someone's behaviour like that. It's literally 1 fucking centimeter but a walloping impact on one's mental health (If good result is made)

Living my life as a MTN/HTN is enough for me, looksmaxxing is all about fixing failos and avoid creating halos, that's the way I view it.

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

Oh,

Forgot to mention how the decompensation phase truly makes your failos stand out even more lmao I avoided selfies during the 2 - 3 months of pre-op at all costs
But if you are realistically aware of your results then there's not much to worry about, patience is tremendously required at this point