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[Deleted member 2621]

Basically using GH and especially IGF-1 is a trade off. IGF (which GH is usually converted to) has a crazy amount of benefits for brain, body bone...


But, there are some studies pointing out that its a trade off for longevity.

There are some ideas on how higher IGF can cause you to die earlies, and there have been studies conducted in mice, rats, flies and recently human.

Let me point out my own theory why that is:



IGF becomes less and less by age, and it is usually known to give a youthful look and help as an anti-aging medicine. Starting around the age from 60, IGF is basically so low in human, barely detectable. (Ask me for any research paper you want Ill find it, Im lazy rn tho).

So why does an anti-aging hormone cause aging?

My theory is rooted in a basic principle of endocrinology, which we know from the HTP axis for testosterone.

Admistering any hormone will lower natural production.

Thats just the way it is, and IGF-1 is not different, if you use large amounts of GH soon, your natural production will decline and you age faster

The GH/IGF-1 axis in ageing and longevity

Secretion of growth hormone (GH), and consequently that of insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1), declines over time until only low levels can be detected in individuals aged ≥60 years. This phenomenon, which is known as the ‘somatopause’, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@Dyorotic2 made me aware of one way to increase natural IGF production without lowering it, its called DSIP, y'all should look into it.


But for all those height maxxers and also myself who dont immediately trust this new shit, we wanna stick to our GH cycles:

I want you to take something away today:

Dont be too afraid of small doses!

Some studies (especially on IGF-1) suggest that smaller doses can be as efficient, if not more, with way less harmful effects and desensitization,


You basically win the trade off. Less danger and more years to your life with same growth effects
https://watermark.silverchair.com/j...hipgeGFsmn5Lya32gWob6fOQmDKOENRhs4DapMIea_2bo

Dont worry about the length of that link Im not trying to put a virus on anyone, if you dont trust me heres the study

Also, y'all can get some cheap and effective IGF easily, I know HGH has its advantages but i feel like this forum is too hung up on it even tho its imo the secondary growth hormone.

Nevertheless Im gonna implement dyoritics idea and after a 4 week IGF cycle Imma blast some DSIP, maybe this way my natural IGF production will be less damaged and my t higher.

Good luck guys
@Don't Forget to mew

 

[Deleted member 4053]

Make updates on your use of DSIP

Anything else you are using as of now or in the future?

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Make updates on your use of DSIP

Anything else you are using as of now or in the future?

most recent order

Also im still on butea, mk677, mk4, proviron and some smaller GH boosters

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Legit son. Also there's a sweet spot for IGF-1 in aging.

 

[Deleted member 2621]

@PubertyMaxxer @nelson

 

[Deleted member 6789]

the amount of GH you need to enduce bone growth is damn near overdosing. JFL
"buh but muh small dose"

 

[ChadsAreCool]

cjc 1295 no dac can induce gh spikes which is desired.

 

[Bruh567]

50 years as chad or 80 years as incel your pick

 

[Incoming]

 

[Deleted member 2621]

the amount of GH you need to enduce bone growth is damn near overdosing. JFL
"buh but muh small dose"

uhmmm... what else wold u wanna be growin?

50 years as chad or 80 years as incel your pick

lol dont shit on me im on all kinds of shit rn. I agree, but if you have the choice between 80 years a chad and 50 years a chad the answer is obvs

 

[Bruh567]

uhmmm... what else wold u wanna be growin?

BONES

uhmmm... what else wold u wanna be growin?

lol dont shit on me im on all kinds of shit rn. I agree, but if you have the choice between 80 years a chad and 50 years a chad the answer is obvs

No 80 years as Chad for no god teir bone structure, low gh doesn't do much for bones

 

[Deleted member 2621]

BONES

No 80 years as Chad for no god teir bone structure, low gh doesn't do much for bones

Mean IgF. It is as effectiive in most low doses as in high ones. Also LF3 has a crazy long half life so you can efficiently use it. HGH is good, but not the solution to all problems. Its majority is converted to IGF anyway

 

[Bruh567]

Mean IgF. It is as effectiive in most low doses as in high ones. Also LF3 has a crazy long half life so you can efficiently use it. HGH is good, but not the solution to all problems. Its majority is converted to IGF anyway

yeah LR3 has 3x potency as of normal IGF

 

[Deleted member 2621]

yeah LR3 has 3x potency as of normal IGF

found a warehouse owner in britain who sells it for 30 bucks per mcg. This shit gon make my mandible flourish

 

[Bruh567]

found a warehouse owner in britain who sells it for 30 bucks per mcg. This shit gon make my mandible flourish

cool I also have a source can't wait to use!

 

[Deleted member 2621]

cool I also have a source can't wait to use!

whats your regimen bro?

 

[ThreadMatters]

just inject random indian product labelled as gh theory

 

[Bruh567]

whats your regimen bro?

HGh and igf 1lr3 and dht

just inject random indian product labelled as gh theory

cope poorcel

 

[Luke LLL]

I don’t think natural igf levels are lowered when using hgh. Find the study for that.

 

[Bruh567]

I don’t think natural igf levels are lowered when using hgh. Find the study for that.

gh production is lowered when there are high igf1 levels are present less gh =less igf 1 just like any other hormone

 

[Deleted member 2621]

HGh and igf 1lr3 and dht

cope poorcel

you should also check out DSIP offcycle to get your production up. Ill update u with my results

 

[Bruh567]

you should also check out DSIP offcycle to get your production up. Ill update u with my results

probably use it at night and gh in the morning

 

[Deleted member 2621]

probably use it at night and gh in the morning

this dude owes me 0.05 bitcoin

Feel like Im in paradise. Just hope the police doesnt fuck me, some of this shit is illegal in my country

 

[Chintuck22]

I won't gonna be usin any of these shit cause it'll cost me 4 years of wageslaving, no tnx

 

[Bruh567]

this dude owes me 0.05 bitcoin

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Feel like Im in paradise. Just hope the police doesnt fuck me, some of this shit is illegal in my country

as long you get domestic you will be fine

 

[Deleted member 2621]

I won't gonna be usin any of these shit cause it'll cost me 4 years of wageslaving, no tnx

just bought a years worth of it for 70 bucks cheapcel

 

[Chintuck22]

just bought a years worth of it for 70 bucks cheapcel

According to @Extra Chromosome heightmaxing protocol, i'll need atleast $300 to begin, (Not including shipping costs). And like every month to spend little less than $300.

 

[Deleted member 6963]

most recent order
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Also im still on butea, mk677, mk4, proviron and some smaller GH boosters

Opinion on mk for frame maxxing and faster recovery? Do you also recommend other gh secretagogue? And wouldnt soft tissue grow before bone does?

 

[Deleted member 2621]

According to @Extra Chromosome heightmaxing protocol, i'll need atleast $300 to begin, (Not including shipping costs). And like every month to spend little less than $300.

not talking about heightmaxxing bro, this is about facial bones. My height is fine

Opinion on mk for frame maxxing and faster recovery? Do you also recommend other gh secretagogue? And wouldnt soft tissue grow before bone does?

Yes, it usually does. mk is probably the most common gh segretagogue in the classical sense, with the main side effect being high blood sugar which u can counter with the use of berberine.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

I thought it was already well-known HGH and similar drugs are cope

 

[Bird Bluebird]

found a warehouse owner in britain who sells it for 30 bucks per mcg. This shit gon make my mandible flourish

Could you share your source for igf1 ?

 

[Chintuck22]

not talking about heightmaxxing bro, this is about facial bones. My height is fine

Yes, it usually does. mk is probably the most common gh segretagogue in the classical sense, with the main side effect being high blood sugar which u can counter with the use of berberine.

Bones grow in direction where they grew 17 years earlier, i can't stand copers who think chernobyl chemicals will somehow make them look like opry and shit.. NO; if your midface was long, it's gonna be longer, it grew in direction to be like that, think logically - only with rotation, with another mechanical force, you are gonna be able to change growth pattern, it cannot change itself by taking IGF, HGH, and what not... stop coping

 

[KingScrew]

this dude owes me 0.05 bitcoin

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Feel like Im in paradise. Just hope the police doesnt fuck me, some of this shit is illegal in my country

Who's the plug?

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Bones grow in direction where they grew 17 years earlier, i can't stand copers who think chernobyl chemicals will somehow make them look like opry and shit.. NO; if your midface was long, it's gonna be longer, it grew in direction to be like that, think logically - only with rotation, with another mechanical force, you are gonna be able to change growth pattern, it cannot change itself by taking IGF, HGH, and what not... stop coping

thats why you combine it wih androgens.

Growth hormones alone? Yeah your face will become bigger. Youll also be better looking because growth hoormones mainly broaden and heighten the mandible but sure, whatever.

Together with androgens`This is where u get the masculine bone growth u should have had during puberty

 

[Chintuck22]

thats why you combine it wih androgens.

Growth hormones alone? Yeah your face will become bigger. Youll also be better looking because growth hoormones mainly broaden and heighten the mandible but sure, whatever.

Together with androgens`This is where u get the masculine bone growth u should have had during puberty

As far as i'm concerned, only things that will masculinize is chin height, due to growth of the bones, and bigonial width due to masseter hypertrophy, because every muscle grow with ease if you are on steroid, so do masseters (Look bodybuilders as an example).

The rest is influenced by mechanics, it's also important mentioning that direction of the growth is genetically predetermined, but you could have changed it with facepulling (Example). I'm not quite sure, but i guess prenatal testosterone contributes to this, you can't change these things, you know

 

[Deleted member 2621]

As far as i'm concerned, only things that will masculinize is chin height, due to growth of the bones, and bigonial width due to masseter hypertrophy, because every muscle grow with ease if you are on steroid, so do masseters (Look bodybuilders as an example).

The rest is influenced by mechanics, it's also important mentioning that direction of the growth is genetically predetermined, but you could have changed it with facepulling (Example). I'm not quite sure, but i guess prenatal testosterone contributes to this, you can't change these things, you know

Prenatal T only influences this because its an indicator of t later in life. Now we can increase T naturally which has been proven to grow bones, especially the mandible but also cheekbones and browridge. Look, im not against mechanics I bought a palate expander with facebow, but if you want bigger more masculine bones, this is the way to go