Giant Implants results???

[blondepersonreal]

What are the results of giant implants surgeries?? If anyone has them please post them

 

[bimaxmaxxer]

Nothing online, till this day

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Nothing online, till this day

Well there are but not to many, also not the best results...

 

[bimaxmaxxer]

Well there are but not to many, also not the best results...

yeah for example the dude with the giga-chad face while having a wimp skull. even the hatmaxxing can not camouflage that lul. But I think it's still a good result imho even tho it looks uncanny it is artistic.

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Shame Giant won't publishes results he could blurred patient 's eyes and ask them if they don't mind

Crazy to think 99% of his patients want to stay anonymous

 

[chrishell]

I've seen like 25. Most are good (from the photos I've seen--which in all likelihood are at least slightly frauded because incels will congenitally fraud everything even when their frauds irresponsibly encourage or mislead other incels online to pursue potentially life changing surgerise...As someone with an implant I can tell you they look massively different depending on lighting and I can never properly convey how it looks with photos online I find) but you really have to understand you are taking substantial risks with a lot of things.

Extending the infra implant all the way to the nose, especially when saddled, for instance, increases risks of misplacement. In that area 2mm misplacements are not uncommon and can make a big difference.

 

[Manfrommars]

What are the results of giant implants surgeries?? If anyone has them please post them

his implants always seem a bit strong which is not bad but since most his patients are fully recessed it makes their face look uncanny since their skull is also fucked

 

[iseeblue9]

I've seen like 25. Most are good (from the photos I've seen--which in all likelihood are at least slightly frauded because incels will congenitally fraud everything even when their frauds irresponsibly encourage or mislead other incels online to pursue potentially life changing surgerise...As someone with an implant I can tell you they look massively different depending on lighting and I can never properly convey how it looks with photos online I find) but you really have to understand you are taking substantial risks with a lot of things.

Extending the infra implant all the way to the nose, especially when saddled, for instance, increases risks of misplacement. In that area 2mm misplacements are not uncommon and can make a big difference.

its all about looking better and natural

 

[AforB]

Shame Giant won't publishes results he could blurred patient 's eyes and ask them if they don't mind

Crazy to think 99% of his patients want to stay anonymous

It's cause they died during surgery

 

[blondepersonreal]

yeah for example the dude with the giga-chad face while having a wimp skull. even the hatmaxxing can not camouflage that lul. But I think it's still a good result imho even tho it looks uncanny it is artistic.

Do you know where I can find a pic??

 

[blondepersonreal]

I've seen like 25. Most are good (from the photos I've seen--which in all likelihood are at least slightly frauded because incels will congenitally fraud everything even when their frauds irresponsibly encourage or mislead other incels online to pursue potentially life changing surgerise...As someone with an implant I can tell you they look massively different depending on lighting and I can never properly convey how it looks with photos online I find) but you really have to understand you are taking substantial risks with a lot of things.

Extending the infra implant all the way to the nose, especially when saddled, for instance, increases risks of misplacement. In that area 2mm misplacements are not uncommon and can make a big difference.

Do yk where I can see them? On the discord or something?

 

[pat]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

Response from Giant:

You left out some details that change the context a lot:

#1 – The main thing that matters: Your tissue quality due to previous infections​

First off, I explained to you numerous times that because you had a previous implant infection with prior surgeon you are high risk and the medical guidelines recommend a minimum of at least 12-18 months for replacement.

The standard replacement guidelines are 3-6 months after implant infection but with 2x implant infections 12-18. Look it up.

Every time I brought up the idea of waiting at least a year your reaction was so bad that I would say “maybe” and “we’ll see” if we can do it earlier but I always emphasized “that’s really pushing it.” I just wanted to get you through to the right time. Yes I was stalling you a little but every time I tried to tell you you’re not ready you just couldn’t take it. And I tried approaching the subject multiple times.

You had an area of skin so thin you could almost see through it, an area you had previously operated about 5 times. You thought we should operate ASAP but it’s the opposite. Against your demands, Dr Celal left it alone to heal and sure enough the skin quality has improved substantially over a year to the point it can withstand one more salvage operation. If we did surgery right when you demanded it that would have been the end of your jaw. That skin was on its last legs and you want us to put new implant that’s EVEN BIGGER. That would have busted open and exposed.



I really don’t see what’s so hard to understand about that but whenever I explained it you would accuse me of “gaslighting” and “changing the narrative.” I gave you all the logical reasons why and you rejected them all.

Now I admit that at first I was hoping we could do implant swap using the standard 3-6 months guidelines and that’s initially what I said but later I informed you that Dr Celal decided it wasn’t a good idea and he is absolutely right. For the reasons mentioned above.

#2 You were not left high and dry​

Your medical complications (infection) are completely resolved and we told you to come back for the immediate washout and implant removal surgery but you had it handled by your local hospital which is fine too.

For the secondary corrections you had to wait for the tissue quality to improve the medical reasons as mentioned above.

• You had a free revision surgery offered by Dr Celal and when our assistant doctor told you it would have a cost I stepped in to help you and made sure you wont have a cost.
• I offered you free implants replacement AND additional skull implants you wanted as a gift for what you’ve been through

I showed you the new implant design and had it ready since October or November. That’s not the issue. You are just not physically ready for surgery. There’s no way for me to help that. If I never planned on helping with your revision I wouldn’t have bothered:

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Our assistant doctor is supposed to be handling all the communication anyway but I even gave you my personal WhatsApp number and we have exchanged maybe 1000+ messages over the last year and response time is usually no more than a few days for you. I only ever stopped responding when you threatened me or told me to F off and you'd come back later shocked that I actually did.

You called the surgery off multiple times that I can remember:

• You would tell me to forget it and F off, block me on Instagram, and then come back surprised we weren’t expecting you.
• Then you told me you would use a surgeon in (your home country) then came back surprised we weren’t expecting you.
• Then you told me you will just use a different designer and Celal will do it and then come back surprised I wasn’t expecting you.
• Most recently (about a week ago) I told you that I will get back to you after the weekend so you told me to just forget it because you’re full steam ahead on writing bad reviews. Then you texted me later that week shocked I never responded.

I see now all these were just threats in an attempt to get surgery sooner, just like everything else including the legal threats and bad reviews, but that's not helpful and has only made everything worse for us but especially you.

#3 The missed surgery day​

I told our asst doctor I won’t be back in Dec and to reschedule the surgeries. He rescheduled most of them but forgot to reschedule 2 of them. Yours and one other. Yep, huge fuckup.

When you texted me you’re in Istanbul I thought you were just rubbing in my face that you are going ahead with surgery anyway against all my advice with their other designer you told/threatened me about. That’s why I just answered “How’s that?”

Once you clarified what happened I really couldn’t believe it and I told you I’m sorry and will pay for your next flight back but that surgery needs to be at least 1yr after the infection.

#4 The aesthetic outcome: You are an extreme case​

• You admitted there are parts of the result you like and consider improvements but they have been understandably overshadowed by medical complications.
• You had and have extremely unnatural implants. Plain and simple. You are not a normal case and your implants stick out like a sore thumb among all my other cases and for the next ones you want to go larger. Its cool, its interesting, but its high risk.

You don’t have natural aesthetic at all you have some surgeries that are borderline body modifications like the whole elf ears thing and the tattooed eyes, not to mention all the previous implants you came with already. I’m not saying this in a disrespectful way at all or even saying it looks bad but it's not natural and you know that. I’m saying this to point out you’re a big risk taker, and to come here as a quarternary or maybe quinary revision case (4x or 5x revision) and try to fear monger the average looksmax patient getting a more natural surgery or safe size implants will deal with these complications is misleading.

A normal patient getting an infection would have replacement in 3-6 months (its already happened, and we fixed it already) but someone who’s had 20 plastic surgeries, some of them complicated, is a different story…… We’re doing the best we can…. You don’t seem to understand the more surgeries & previous complications you had, the more risk and more careful we have to be.

And even with all that, I didn’t get defensive or make excuses or blame you in followup when you told me you didn’t like the look of the cheekbones. I just said okay that’s fine I’ll make new ones for you, and I did.

#5 You wanted more surgery not just revision surgery​

You also came to me about skull implants and I was happy to help you with that and I wasn’t even gonna charge anything for all you been through. But my terms were: Surgery needs to be in at least one year after infection.

It’s one thing if you just came back for the revision because you felt there was no other option to get it fixed.

But if I am so bad, as you said have "Negative 0 clue what I'm doing" why would you get additional major surgeries with us and designed by me?

You even admitted there are parts of the result you like and consider improvements but they have been understandably overshadowed by medical complications.

You have seen multiple of my results and showed me the awful design proposals by other services. You know I'm good at this. I cant help the medical complications or your tissue quality.

#6 Getting cancelled​

The first night I got back to Istanbul (a week ago) Dr Celal, Dr Serdar, and I went to dinner to talk about upcoming cases and I even sent you a friendly pic of all of us around the table and invited you to have a zoom with us about your upcoming revision.

You tried to SUE dr celal for medical complications and gave me no more than a week of being back in Istanbul to write in intentionally bad as possible horror story leaving out KEY details.

Your own lawyer told you that you can’t talk to dr celal anymore.

How are we able to help you now????????

Physically your body needed to wait for surgery, but emotionally/psychologically I guess you just couldn’t hold on any longer. Tricky situation…

 

[Lefor3Laser]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

Sorry to hear that, hopefully you do get it fixed, if you don't mind answering (it's your choice if you like or not to answer) what did you get exactly, i always have said (i am not against giant but the marketing he does wich he says that he does everything perfect ), again, sorry to hear this happen.

 

[Dathomirian Zabrak]

Dont trust to giant

 

[pat]

Sorry to hear that, hopefully you do get it fixed, if you don't mind answering (it's your choice if you like or not to answer) what did you get exactly, i always have said (i am not against giant but the marketing he does wich he says that he does everything perfect ), again, sorry to hear this happen.

forehead, supraorbital, cheek bones/chin/ and jaw replacement. far from perfect.

 

[tweaqo]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

Damn would you be willing to message me privately? I was considering going to Pagnoni and Giant for multiple surgeries. Sorry to hear this happened to you bro

 

[Mr.Proper]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

Any sort of proof would make your story much more legit and would bring more attention.

 

[pat]

slide 5 instagram. 12 october 2023.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Any sort of proof would make your story much more legit and would bring more attention.

I do trust him since i actually see many botched cases, he isn't the first nor the last to come with this story.

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

If you have something to say make a post about it and inform everyone don't gatekeep crucial information

this might be interesting bro @Acne Victim

 

[pat]

I do trust him since i actually see many botched cases, he isn't the first nor the last to come with this story.

thankyou <3

 

[pat]

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If you have something to say make a post about it and inform everyone don't gatekeep crucial information

this might be interesting bro @Acne Victim

i understand the frustration. all be hopefully be revealed soon. i have reached out a final time for a resollution but once again i am left high and dry as per usual with thousands of dollars out of pocket and a face that needs revision.

 

[pat]

Damn would you be willing to message me privately? I was considering going to Pagnoni and Giant for multiple surgeries. Sorry to hear this happened to you bro

feel free to msg i will try answer what i can

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

I do trust him since i actually see many botched cases, he isn't the first nor the last to come with this story.

How many botched cases of giants you saw?

 

[tweaqo]

feel free to msg i will try answer what i can

messaged

 

[Dathomirian Zabrak]

feel free to msg i will try answer what i can

i hope best for you. you are not alone bhai

 

[Lefor3Laser]

How many botched cases of giants you saw?

I will just give an estimate since i've seen many, around 5-8 and probably even more, some worse than the others, and more of them are underwhelming (misc case) and more

 

[iseeblue9]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

you are saying this for a year now without a proof. Making a detailed thread with proof will make easy for futher users here. It doesn’t hurt you if you are speaking truth

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

I will just give an estimate since i've seen many, around 5-8 and probably even more, some worse than the others, and more of them are underwhelming (misc case) and more

I don't understand why people gatekeeps info if only people came up together and shared experience when they are botched people woild be more cautious and this would also give giants to learn from his mistakes but instead all ascensions and botches are fucking kept secret in this shitty community.

Only a few high IQ user are truly contributing the rest are either stupid low IQ fucks asking what bimax is instead of basic google research or just weirdo lurkers gatekeeping info as if they are holding nuclear weapon secrets from 60s soviet cold war

 

[iseeblue9]

I don't understand why people gatekeeps info if only people came up together and shared experience when they are botched people woild be more cautious and this would also give giants to learn from his mistakes but instead all ascensions and botches are fucking kept secret in this shitty community.

Only a few high IQ user are truly contributing the rest are either stupid low IQ fucks asking what bimax is instead of basic google research or just weirdo lurkers gatekeeping info as if they are holding nuclear weapon secrets from 60s soviet cold war

Because most of fhe cases are exaggerated and its not always the Designer or surgeons fault COMPLICATIONS can happen

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Because most of fhe cases are exaggerated and its not always the Designer or surgeons fault COMPLICATIONS can happen

There's a difference between botching it once or 100 times for example, if it's once then you can blame it on complications, but it is more than 3-4 times, then there's something suspicious.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I don't understand why people gatekeeps info if only people came up together and shared experience when they are botched people woild be more cautious and this would also give giants to learn from his mistakes but instead all ascensions and botches are fucking kept secret in this shitty community.

Only a few high IQ user are truly contributing the rest are either stupid low IQ fucks asking what bimax is instead of basic google research or just weirdo lurkers gatekeeping info as if they are holding nuclear weapon secrets from 60s soviet cold war

Many people feel insecure before and after a botch it would be worse, not many would rather show their face on the internet, i myself wouldn't do that.

 

[iseeblue9]

There's a difference between botching it once or 100 times for example, if it's once then you can blame it on complications, but it is more than 3-4 times, then there's something suspicious.

Its not about botching if u do atleast 500-600 cases some can turn into bad cases you can’t control that no matter what. if u call it a botch then every surgeon is a butcher

 

[pat]

you are saying this for a year now without a proof. Making a detailed thread with proof will make easy for futher users here. It doesn’t hurt you if you are speaking truth

i am working on it. i have been saying it for a year you are right. because when i spoke last time i was confronted about it and silenced because a revision was in the works so i stopped commenting to give the benefit of the doubt. fast forward 6 months nothing has changed except more money wasted on a pointless trip to turkey after he assured me he is ready and he will meet me there for surgery. it never happend and when i messeged him on xmas day telling him " hey i am in istanbul" he had the audacity to write back saying " hows that?. he has refused to come to the table and i am out of pocket over 35000 dollars.

 

[iseeblue9]

i am working on it. i have been saying it for a year you are right. because when i spoke last time i was confronted about it and silenced because a revision was in the works so i stopped commenting to give the benefit of the doubt. fast forward 6 months nothing has changed except more money wasted on a pointless trip to turkey after he assured me he is ready and he will meet me there for surgery. it never happend and when i messeged him on xmas day telling him " hey i am in istanbul" he had the audacity to write back saying " hows that?. he has refused to come to the table and i am out of pocket over 35000 dollars.

Even after spending so much time still be exhausted to have bad results i am sorry for you bro. hope you get your things right and please and again speak about it .

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

If Celal the Butcher botched you create a reddit, realself and looksmax thread about it so that everyone knows him

 

[Acne Victim]

If you have something to say make a post about it and inform everyone don't gatekeep crucial information

this might be interesting bro @Acne Victim

he’s probably legit yeah

 

[kati]

Dayumn

 

[pat]

Its not about botching if u do atleast 500-600 cases some can turn into bad cases you can’t control that no matter what. if u call it a botch then every surgeon is a butcher

its how providers deal with botched cases too. in this case you are dealing with someone who is perfect in his eyes only. never makes mistakes. god forbid you speak up because how dare you question my designs. "i fix gods mistakes". " noone does it like me". give me a break.

 

[djpac520]

its how providers deal with botched cases too. in this case you are dealing with someone who is perfect in his eyes only. never makes mistakes. god forbid you speak up because how dare you question my designs. "i fix gods mistakes". " noone does it like me". give me a break.

please @ me when you post your thread im very interested in your story.

 

[iseeblue9]

its how providers deal with botched cases too. in this case you are dealing with someone who is perfect in his eyes only. never makes mistakes. god forbid you speak up because how dare you question my designs. "i fix gods mistakes". " noone does it like me". give me a break.

fixing gods mistakes and still be creating more problems

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Never go to Turkey for surgeries. This country is the realm of botches. Prefer Eastern Europe for Normie surgeries like lip lift, hair transplant , nose jobs

Turkey surgeons scammers paid google, patients to promote them and make people think it's surgery heaven

And for niche surgery like PEEK infra implants with saddle unfortunately only Pagnoni and later Ramieri can offer it safely

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Never go to Turkey for surgeries. This country is the realm of botches. Prefer Eastern Europe for Normie surgeries like lip lift, hair transplant , nose jobs

Turkey surgeons scammers paid google, patients to promote them and make people think it's surgery heaven

And for niche surgery like PEEK infra implants with saddle unfortunately only Pagnoni and later Ramieri can offer it safely

Yes, i agree that pagnoni and Ramieri do it good, and pagnoni is the best out of them all but there are also unknown surgeons that also do a pretty solid job, i remember seeing a thread about a female Italian surgeon who did frontal bone implant on a patient and looked very natural, my point is that any country can have good/bad surgeons.

Like this guy who was a user on lookism and got inframalar and supraorbital implant in Lithuania (unknown surgeon since he never mentioned him), looks natural but somewhat like a aspie.

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Yes, i agree that pagnoni and Ramieri do it good, and pagnoni is the best out of them all but there are also unknown surgeons that also do a pretty solid job, i remember seeing a thread about a female Italian surgeon who did frontal bone implant on a patient and looked very natural, my point is that any country can have good/bad surgeons.

Like this guy who was a user on lookism and got inframalar and supraorbital implant in Lithuania (unknown surgeon since he never mentioned him), looks natural but somewhat like a aspie.
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Lithuanian case proved again only conservative implants looks natural and not uncanny for orbitals

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Lithuanian case proved again only conservative implants looks natural and not uncanny for orbitals

Yes and that's why going with only Pagnoni is good since he does them natural, many users here have gone with pagnoni only and turned out to look good (natural)

 

[zemult]

Never go to Turkey for surgeries. This country is the realm of botches. Prefer Eastern Europe for Normie surgeries like lip lift, hair transplant , nose jobs

Turkey surgeons scammers paid google, patients to promote them and make people think it's surgery heaven

And for niche surgery like PEEK infra implants with saddle unfortunately only Pagnoni and later Ramieri can offer it safely

What about fat grafting

 

[tiredman]

i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.

I live in Türkiye and I am thinking of going to Giant. First of all, I am sorry for the unfortunate thing that happened to you. I hope you can fix it. If you don't mind, can you tell me what happened to you? Is it because you couldn't get the look you wanted or did complications develop? I am really curious about your process. I think you should open this situation as a topic and explain it in detail so that it can be preliminary information for people who are going to have surgery like us.

 

[pat]

I live in Türkiye and I am thinking of going to Giant. First of all, I am sorry for the unfortunate thing that happened to you. I hope you can fix it. If you don't mind, can you tell me what happened to you? Is it because you couldn't get the look you wanted or did complications develop? I am really curious about your process. I think you should open this situation as a topic and explain it in detail so that it can be preliminary information for people who are going to have surgery like us.

i like you seeked giant implants for custom made facial implants. i gave a brief on what i wanted and it was up to his expertise to bring it to life. i also had previos implants that looked good and i asked him to measure the good side accordingly and match it up to the other side. he assured me that the new implants would be a much better shape and contour and in fact the size will be exactly the same so i dont lose the projection and shape i had on the good side. mind you this process was very difficult with the constant delays in replies and having to send messeges over and over again just to get something done ( this should have been sign not to pursue). after many months i had my surgery and apart from many surgical errors in the OR ( thats for a different thread), my implants were disasterous. the dimensions, shapes, sizes of the implants were just terrible. the cheeks for eg were so large and made so poorly i actually was waiting for someone to come up to me and say i have been. "punked". this is not the swelling i am talking about. this is the raw implants. think madonna/lil kim. my jaw was made worse and made smaller than what i had. ( my old jaw done by someone else was 1000 times better than what i was given). so much for "your new jaw will be a much better contour and better shape than what you have trust me". my face transformed from a nice looking face into a bloated mess. after many months i had confronted giant to discuss how bad these implants were and showed examples of what i used to have and what i have now. he had agreed that the implants were not done well and he will do them again free of charge and that issues regarding the implants "falls on him". he said dont worry i will be prioritised and will be ahead of everyone else.
for the last 15 months after hundreds of messeges, empty promises, setbacks, excuses, gaslighting, narcisism,psycological trauma i am still waiting on my revision and it has not happened. as youre aware from previous threads a surgery date was finally made after nearly a year. i checked everyday leading up to it for confirmation if i can book my plane ticket because it is non refundable and he said " yes go for it we will be ready". so i did. and then more drama started. the math was not adding up. in the weeks leading up to surgery he stil had failed showing me any designs for me to confirm even after telling me hes already done them and they look great. ofcourse i wanted a say in my implants considering how bad he designed them the first time. but he never showed me. and he never sent them to the lab for manufacturing. i started to worry because my flight was coming up and my surgery was booked. then he started ignoring me for weeks on end. who does that to a patient?? i then flew to istanbul as he knew my surgery was coming up and i had a non refundable ticket. he stood me up. he never was there and was too busy partying his life away in. thailand. he cost me thousands of dollars money and when i messged him that i was in turkey he finally replied with "hows that?". i was so angry that he completly ignored my surgery and didnt even bother explaining himself. its always an excuse beyong his control and always makes himself out the victim. " im so busy , im stressed, ive had something come up, im sick". please we all are. then he proceeded to offer to pay for my flights back. he never did. because for 15 months i have been lied so and he still hasnt got my case done. he forgets what he has said and starts a new narrative every couple of months. safe to say i have endured more than enough. i am being punished for speaking up about my implants and how bad they are because god forbid i question " the greatest most experianced implant desigber of all time".

my money has been taken, i was promised a revision, it never happened and ive been lied to at every chance. this is not the workings of a ethical medical provider. infact i dont even know what his qualifcations are. if things are done legally? who knows. ill leave that to others to investigate.

there is much more i will write in depth on a new thread. there were surgical issues aswell but this reply is focused on the implants only. but i will say to add to the disaster my left cheek implant was misplaced and the xray i have shows it and it was confirmed my giant. and my chin also. so even after all that they couldnt even place them correctly.

im not hear to tell anyone what decision to make. but would you really trust someone who cannot be contacted, takes weeks to reply,takes your money/ wont finish a service, doesnt have a practice/personal assistant, who gaslights patients, wont take accountability. once he has been paid. he dont care no more. dont think that youve finally made it once you progress. ive been waiting all this time for what is right and what is owed to me. but he seems to punish me by doing other projects even though he would say to me all last year that " you are next on the case, there is noone else ahead of you, i usually dont work weekends but for you i will. you are so close to finishing, your surgery will be next week, next month, next two months". honestly the whole thing was one big lie.

he was never interested in finishing off my case. he enjoyed having the authority to control me and have power over me. his very own client. unbelievable and a classic narcisist type personality.

good luck.

 

[iseeblue9]

more power to you bro keep on speaking waiting for your thread. This needs to be heard at every cost.

 

[tweaqo]

Never go to Turkey for surgeries. This country is the realm of botches. Prefer Eastern Europe for Normie surgeries like lip lift, hair transplant , nose jobs

Turkey surgeons scammers paid google, patients to promote them and make people think it's surgery heaven

And for niche surgery like PEEK infra implants with saddle unfortunately only Pagnoni and later Ramieri can offer it safely

Yo bro can I pm you regarding giant and Pagnoni?