Girls liked me more when I was uglier

[aircraftboi]

So 2 years ago I was a raging alcoholic was 44 kgs of bidyweight and my face was the most feminine boyface I ever seen. Girls adored me back then I had a lot of girlfriends and texted a huge amount of foids. These day,I am sober,gymmaxxed 73 kg 11% bodyfat at 181cm's. My face ascended hugely,I dress more nicely. But girls dont seem to be even interested in me whatsoever,even tho before I would pull htbs on a weekly basis. Idk what I did wrong,everyone agrees I look much better than before,but still I get nowhere the attention I got before. Did this happen to any of you guys before?

 

[aircraftboi]

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[enlightful]

So 2 years ago I was a raging alcoholic was 44 kgs of bidyweight and my face was the most feminine boyface I ever seen. Girls adored me back then I had a lot of girlfriends and texted a huge amount of foids. These day,I am sober,gymmaxxed 73 kg 11% bodyfat at 181cm's. My face ascended hugely,I dress more nicely. But girls dont seem to be even interested in me whatsoever,even tho before I would pull htbs on a weekly basis. Idk what I did wrong,everyone agrees I look much better than before,but still I get nowhere the attention I got before. Did this happen to any of you guys before?

You probably (without realizing it) transitioned from fitting the female gaze to the male gaze

 

[aircraftboi]

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[aircraftboi]

You probably (without realizing it) transitioned from fitting the female gaze to the male gaze

Yeah but I thought women liked more masculine faces with better bodies. Idk what I did wrong tho

 

[IBlameBuccelFats]

So 2 years ago I was a raging alcoholic was 44 kgs of bidyweight and my face was the most feminine boyface I ever seen. Girls adored me back then I had a lot of girlfriends and texted a huge amount of foids. These day,I am sober,gymmaxxed 73 kg 11% bodyfat at 181cm's. My face ascended hugely,I dress more nicely. But girls dont seem to be even interested in me whatsoever,even tho before I would pull htbs on a weekly basis. Idk what I did wrong,everyone agrees I look much better than before,but still I get nowhere the attention I got before. Did this happen to any of you guys before?

prettyboy pill classic

 

[aircraftboi]

prettyboy pill classic

I wasnt even a prettyboy I just looked really feminine tho. Like I had a pedo stache with the most soft features ever

 

[selfascender]

I can’t relate ngl I used to be ugly as shit

 

[aircraftboi]

I can’t relate ngl I used to be ugly as shit

Did you ascend tho? If so,then thats great atleast

 

[selfascender]

Did you ascend tho? If so,then thats great atleast

Yea I’m better looking now
But I still have some work to do

 

[SexWhale]

What changed about your face? Do you have before vs after?

 

[TitusA]

So 2 years ago I was a raging alcoholic was 44 kgs of bidyweight and my face was the most feminine boyface I ever seen. Girls adored me back then I had a lot of girlfriends and texted a huge amount of foids. These day,I am sober,gymmaxxed 73 kg 11% bodyfat at 181cm's. My face ascended hugely,I dress more nicely. But girls dont seem to be even interested in me whatsoever,even tho before I would pull htbs on a weekly basis. Idk what I did wrong,everyone agrees I look much better than before,but still I get nowhere the attention I got before. Did this happen to any of you guys before?

Did the best with girls when I was jobless and addicted to drugs. I think something about being a junkie/loser makes them more comfortable around you. They feel like they can open up more and you wont judge. Also I think the carefree attitude is attractive to allot of girls. I even fkd a police officer who was involved in arresting me a year earlier.

If your life is put together and you look good as well the automatically put you into relationship category not casual fk category also.

 

[StuntmanMike]

Girls don't approach someone who is between mtn and chadlite.
Maybe only ugly girls approach
but generally girls don't like htns this is because Htns got the aura of chadlites However they obviously got lower SMV than chadlites plus They know Htns don't treat them like Mtns do .
So approaching HTN is risky ,not worth overall

 

[chillmap2736]

personality imo

 

[aircraftboi]

Yea I’m better looking now
But I still have some work to do

We all have work to do but atleast you ascended to

 

[IBlameBuccelFats]

I wasnt even a prettyboy I just looked really feminine tho. Like I had a pedo stache with the most soft features ever

then thats female gaze, a select few people just attract more women when they have softer features. and idk why they go crazy over the pedo beard, HAS to be a scientific reasoning behind it

 

[aircraftboi]

Did the best with girls when I was jobless and addicted to drugs. I think something about being a junkie/loser makes them more comfortable around you. They feel like they can open up more and you wont judge. Also I think the carefree attitude is attractive to allot of girls. I even fkd a police officer who was involved in arresting me a year earlier.

If your life is put together and you look good as well the automatically put you into relationship category not casual fk category also.

Thats actually a great response,made me realize some things. i always wondered why every girl wants a relationship now and no one night stands but I get put in the relationship category than. Thanks for the help bhai

 

[TitusA]

Thats actually a great response,made me realize some things. i always wondered why every girl wants a relationship now and no one night stands but I get put in the relationship category than. Thanks for the help bhai

Yes you get put in one of 4 category's. Fuck material category, relationship category, friend category (if they have no attraction to you) or creep category.

 

[aircraftboi]

Girls don't approach someone who is between mtn and chadlite.
Maybe only ugly girls approach
but generally girls don't like htns this is because Htns got the aura of chadlites However they obviously got lower SMV than chadlites plus They know Htns don't treat them like Mtns do .
So approaching HTN is risky ,not worth overall

Thanks for the help bhai. Maybe thats the case idek. It was worth to ascend to htn for my self image but maybe thats why girls dont like me no more

 

[gario]

This is Good looking guys curse. When U look too good people dont even bother with u. I had same experience. U feel like incel..

 

[277]

I’ve never had a problem with woman

 

[aircraftboi]

Yes you get put in one of 4 category's. Fuck material category, relationship category, friend category (if they have no attraction to you) or creep category.

Never knew this do. I was hoping to get put in the fuck material category but all these woman just want a relationship with me. I cant even decise if thats a good thing or not. I mean that means im considered a high value men but at the same time I just want to bang

 

[aircraftboi]

This is Good looking guys curse. When U look too good people dont even bother with u. I had same experience. U feel like incel..

Idk man I feel like an incel even tho everyone say I look good,but still girls dont even look at me a lot. Its a blessing and a curse at the same time

 

[aircraftboi]

I’ve never had a problem with woman

good for you bhai not all of us are that fortunate

 

[toolateforme]

'181cm 44kg'
'Pull girls'

 

[aircraftboi]

What changed about your face? Do you have before vs after?

I dont really wanna show my face here because I've been saying some pretty racist stuff and don't want to be exposed in the future. But I grew my brow ridges,my face widened,my maxilla developed and I got clear skin. Overall I grew a more masculine face. Still it didnt help me

 

[aircraftboi]

'181cm 44kg'
'Pull girls'View attachment 3733558

I agree with you bro im suprised asf how I even pull women at that weight I just did tho. Looking back its some kind of miracle. Thats why Im mad that now I dont pull them and I did back then

 

[toolateforme]

I agree with you bro im suprised asf how I even pull women at that weight I just did tho. Looking back its some kind of miracle. Thats why Im mad that now I dont pull them and I did back then

You were 12 years old thats why

 

[aircraftboi]

then thats female gaze, a select few people just attract more women when they have softer features. and idk why they go crazy over the pedo beard, HAS to be a scientific reasoning behind it

If there is a scientific reasoning I need it ASAP because I cant even comprehend this. That pedo stache is the most disgusting thing ever

 

[aircraftboi]

You were 12 years old thats why

Nah bhai im 18 now I was 15-16 back then

 

[toolateforme]

Same shit to me

 

[browncurrycel]

So 2 years ago I was a raging alcoholic was 44 kgs of bidyweight and my face was the most feminine boyface I ever seen. Girls adored me back then I had a lot of girlfriends and texted a huge amount of foids. These day,I am sober,gymmaxxed 73 kg 11% bodyfat at 181cm's. My face ascended hugely,I dress more nicely. But girls dont seem to be even interested in me whatsoever,even tho before I would pull htbs on a weekly basis. Idk what I did wrong,everyone agrees I look much better than before,but still I get nowhere the attention I got before. Did this happen to any of you guys before?

pics and we'll decide which looked better

 

[Basedking]

Did the best with girls when I was jobless and addicted to drugs. I think something about being a junkie/loser makes them more comfortable around you. They feel like they can open up more and you wont judge. Also I think the carefree attitude is attractive to allot of girls. I even fkd a police officer who was involved in arresting me a year earlier.

If your life is put together and you look good as well the automatically put you into relationship category not casual fk category also.

What's the difference. Isn't it same like in relationship u get to do same like ONS. I am thinking of doing CS and I am MTN.

 

[aircraftboi]

pics and we'll decide which looked better

I dont really wanna show my face here because I've been saying some pretty racist stuff and don't want to be exposed in the future. But I grew my brow ridges,my face widened,my maxilla developed and I got clear skin. Overall I grew a more masculine face. Still it didnt help me

.

 

[aircraftboi]

Same shit to me

Sad reality bhai. We've been cursed

 

[IBlameBuccelFats]

If there is a scientific reasoning I need it ASAP because I cant even comprehend this. That pedo stache is the most disgusting thing ever

might as well try growing it back and experiment if its the stache or not

 

[aircraftboi]

might as well try growing it back and experiment if its the stache or not

I can promise you its not the stache I tried to grow it back but didnt help a bit. It was prolly my junkie lifestyle rhat attracted them tbh

 

[IBlameBuccelFats]

I can promise you its not the stache I tried to grow it back but didnt help a bit. It was prolly my junkie lifestyle rhat attracted them tbh

brutal

 

[aircraftboi]

brutal

Yeah brah. Made me sad and shit but I dont want to go back to that lifestyle so it might stay like this

 

[TitusA]

What's the difference. Isn't it same like in relationship u get to do same like ONS. I am thinking of doing CS and I am MTN.

No most girls dont want to have sex straight away if they put you in relationship category because they think you will see them as a slut.

Although some relationships can come from one night stands ofcourse but I'm talking specifically about girls you meet in day to day life or at work or when dating. Not girls that are drunk/partying.

 

[eclipsoo]

Girls don't approach someone who is between mtn and chadlite.
Maybe only ugly girls approach
but generally girls don't like htns this is because Htns got the aura of chadlites However they obviously got lower SMV than chadlites plus They know Htns don't treat them like Mtns do .
So approaching HTN is risky ,not worth overall

is that true that girls dont approach good looking ppl? i only got approached once and thats it. I get so many iois when im outside but i dont even know if thats because im goodlooking or am i just scary or ugly asf. when i look at myself on camera or any mirror outside of the one in my house or hotel mirror i feel like im so so ugly. im in china right now and today a girl told me that i looked russian and that im so handsome. few days ago 2 girls wanted to take a picture with me and said i was attractive but i just cant get how they find me goodlooking. i dont know what to think anymore. Maybe ill find myself better looking if i get to 12% bf, im 22% rn

 

[Basedking]

No most girls dont want to have sex straight away if they put you in relationship category because they think you will see them as a slut.

Although some relationships can come from one night stands ofcourse but I'm talking specifically about girls you meet in day to day life or at work or when dating. Not girls that are drunk/partying.

We have to talk months months like normies. Also in cases like marriage is it same ? What's the point when we have to waste so much time

 

[Basedking]

No most girls dont want to have sex straight away if they put you in relationship category because they think you will see them as a slut.

Although some relationships can come from one night stands ofcourse but I'm talking specifically about girls you meet in day to day life or at work or when dating. Not girls that are drunk/partying.

In relationship they will wait for months then marry you and then do something right ?

 

[SexWhale]

I dont really wanna show my face here because I've been saying some pretty racist stuff and don't want to be exposed in the future. But I grew my brow ridges,my face widened,my maxilla developed and I got clear skin. Overall I grew a more masculine face. Still it didnt help me

Yeah I get it I don’t want to show my face either. Was your progress because of puberty or actual changes?

 

[aircraftboi]

Yeah I get it I don’t want to show my face either. Was your progress because of puberty or actual changes?

Nah I was lifting heavy and paying attention to every nutrient and things. But yea puberty played a big role.

 

[SexWhale]

Oh alr.

Nah I was lifting heavy and paying attention to every nutrient and things. But yea puberty played a big role.

Good for u then. Btw I’m pretty sure girls will find you more attractive if you gymmaxed and ur facial bones developed. The problem is might be ur more reserved/pessimistic now after bp. That is what happened to me I went from being confident and making out with girls somewhat often to now I don’t want anything to do with them.

 

[gario]

Idk man I feel like an incel even tho everyone say I look good,but still girls dont even look at me a lot. Its a blessing and a curse at the same time

Yeah Shit sucks. I have similar experience. Girls will find u too imitating that they will run away from u.

 

[pope]

I can promise you its not the stache I tried to grow it back but didnt help a bit. It was prolly my junkie lifestyle rhat attracted them tbh

Yeah hundred percent i dont know everything with girls just defies logic. I had the most success with girls when i was 22 percent bodyfat manlet or scrawny twink but never in between