give me examples of people with a wide brachy skull but are downgrown

[GerbertJohnson]

i really can’t think of any brachy people who look downgrown all i can think of is dream but he doesn’t even look very downgrown he just has an underbite yet his face is still compact.
are brachy skulls just incapable of actually looking downgrown? also if you have a wide palate (most brachys do) can your maxilla still be downgrown?

 

[MagicalWaves]

me lol

 

[GerbertJohnson]

me lol

would you show or pm photos?