GOD TIER body, don't try gymceling if you don't have this genetics

[Pietrosiek]

This dude is 42 yo. 100% natty ofcourse

 

[OldRooster]

Well I could look like that too if I had a guy to stretch me like that every day. /sarcasm

 

[Pietrosiek]

Remember that he's not even train for bodybuilding. If he focused on that he would be much bigger and possibly top tier bb

 

[CarlSagan96]

Females care much more about having good muscle insertions (mostly abs). An SWR of 1.6 of 1.7 is preferred, although people here think it is much higher

 

[Pietrosiek]

Females care much more about having good muscle insertions (mostly abs). An SWR of 1.6 of 1.7 is preferred, although people here think it is much higher

Yeah musle insertions are important af but 1.6-1.7 is a little above averge. Romero has strong oblique abs so his waist is wide becouse of that (great for fighting but not as good as aesthetics. Width itself does matter too. That's what is the most important imo
1.Shoulder to waist
2.Shoulder width itself (just size important for getting respect for man becouse you're bigger and propably heavier)
3.musle insertions
4.wrist and ankles size (indicators of thick bones whitch make you look bigger)
But keep that in mind that's all just bonus to the face. It's more important for respect from man.

 

[Deleted member 1680]

Females care much more about having good muscle insertions (mostly abs). An SWR of 1.6 of 1.7 is preferred, although people here think it is much higher

Nah women care more about overall size (I.e large clavicle length and ribcage size)
Obviously narrow hips are very good, but they're a bonus. It's more important that you sizemog girls and other guys in the vicinity

E.g girls will prefer a guy that has wide shoulders and barrel chest but not narrow hips, than a guy with mediocre shoulders but very narrow hips

 

[CarlSagan96]

Nah women care more about overall size (I.e large clavicle length and ribcage size)
Obviously narrow hips are very good, but they're a bonus. It's more important that you sizemog girls and other guys in the vicinity

E.g girls will prefer a guy that has wide shoulders and barrel chest but not narrow hips, than a guy with mediocre shoulders but very narrow hips

Ngl my personal experience contradicts this. I have a pretty lean body but with perfect insertions except calves. JB's and even older women stare at me when shirtless, whereas when I'm dressed only JB's do and not even close to as often or for as long. I have sent pics of my body to several females and they always say it's 9/10 and add emojis, etc. I then sent pictures of guys with bigger muscles and ribcages, they overwhelmingly preferred mine. Once when I was at the pool this ethnic jb with her boyfriend who was like 6'2" and massively built looked and smiled at me repeatedly, and he obviously noticed and was upset by this (writing this to show that she preferred my body to his). The next time I went to the pool she kept smiling and looking away from a distance, etc. Btw this was actually when I was wearing a hat low to cover my face as much as possible. This only increased the amount of stares I got.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Nah women care more about overall size (I.e large clavicle length and ribcage size)
Obviously narrow hips are very good, but they're a bonus. It's more important that you sizemog girls and other guys in the vicinity

E.g girls will prefer a guy that has wide shoulders and barrel chest but not narrow hips, than a guy with mediocre shoulders but very narrow hips

1st foids almost don't give a shit about What's below your face. How Tall your head and how hot it is. Body is just a bonus. I talk about getting respect for Men 2hitch comes mostly from size but aesthics is important for respect too. Dude with good shoulder to waist is more respected becouse it's ilusion of having wider shoulders. Good musle insertions are important for aesthics and performance (longer musles mean more strenght from same amount of musles)

 

[CarlSagan96]

1st foids almost don't give a shit about What's below your face. How Tall your head and how hot it is. Body is just a bonus. I talk about getting respect for Men 2hitch comes mostly from size but aesthics is important for respect too. Dude with good shoulder to waist is more respected becouse it's ilusion of having wider shoulders. Good musle insertions are important for aesthics and performance (longer musles mean more strenght from same amount of musles)

You are very wrong about this lol

 

[Pietrosiek]

You are very wrong about this lol

No i'm not body is shit face is all they care

 

[CarlSagan96]

No i'm not body is shit face is all they care

I get so much more attention when I'm shirtless than when I'm clothed it's ridiculous. Read the comment I wrote in this thread, body matters (not as much as face obviously)

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Ngl my personal experience contradicts this. I have a pretty lean body but with perfect insertions except calves. JB's and even older women stare at me when shirtless, whereas when I'm dressed only JB's do and not even close to as often or for as long. I have sent pics of my body to several females and they always say it's 9/10 and add emojis, etc. I then sent pictures of guys with bigger muscles and ribcages, they overwhelmingly preferred mine. Once when I was at the pool this ethnic jb with her boyfriend who was like 6'2" and massively built looked and smiled at me repeatedly, and he obviously noticed and was upset by this (writing this to show that she preferred my body to his). The next time I went to the pool she kept smiling and looking away from a distance, etc. Btw this was actually when I was wearing a hat low to cover my face as much as possible. This only increased the amount of stares I got.

JB is less than 18. There's literally a whole age group between jb and older women.
And hands down real "jbs" actually care about muscle a lot.
Also your basis is completely irrelevent without pictures. You can be lean and still have lots of muscle.

 

[Lorsss]

This dude is 42 yo. 100% natty ofcourse

I need more steroids

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Seems like a video game and the player is making perfect moves.

 

[Pietrosiek]

I need more steroids

No steroids for your frame and musle insertions. This dude have good frame and god tier musle insertions. He could be top tier bb

 

[CarlSagan96]

JB is less than 18. There's literally a whole age group between jb and older women.
And hands down real "jbs" actually care about muscle a lot.
Also your basis is completely irrelevent without pictures. You can be lean and still have lots of muscle.

Yep I get by far the most attention from JB's, and college aged women almost never give me attention in public. Shirtless at the pool I get increased attention from all age groups, attention from PSL 5+ women in their 20's increases from 0 to occasional smiles and extended looks. Yes I realize this method of analysis sounds like autism. I can PM you a picture of my body

 

[Pietrosiek]

Yep I get by far the most attention from JB's, and college aged women almost never give me attention in public. Shirtless at the pool I get increased attention from all age groups, attention from PSL 5+ women in their 20's increases from 0 to occasional smiles and extended looks. Yes I realize this method of analysis sounds like autism. I can PM you a picture of my body

You can pm me. Jb's don't care about body that much, maybe older care, what i care are jb's.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

No i'm not body is shit face is all they care

You’re coping hard because you’re ugly. Women do care about body if the guy is attractive.

 

[CarlSagan96]

You can pm me. Jb's don't care about body that much, maybe older care, what i care are jb's.

That is probably true, attention from JB's didn't increase by as much as from older women but there was still a difference. I'll PM you a pic but I'm not on my phone so I don't have good photos from this summer when I had more muscle

 

[Deleted member 1680]

Ngl my personal experience contradicts this. I have a pretty lean body but with perfect insertions except calves. JB's and even older women stare at me when shirtless, whereas when I'm dressed only JB's do and not even close to as often or for as long. I have sent pics of my body to several females and they always say it's 9/10 and add emojis, etc. I then sent pictures of guys with bigger muscles and ribcages, they overwhelmingly preferred mine. Once when I was at the pool this ethnic jb with her boyfriend who was like 6'2" and massively built looked and smiled at me repeatedly, and he obviously noticed and was upset by this (writing this to show that she preferred my body to his). The next time I went to the pool she kept smiling and looking away from a distance, etc. Btw this was actually when I was wearing a hat low to cover my face as much as possible. This only increased the amount of stares I got.

You sent pictures, that's why.
In pics large framed guys look underwhelming if their propertions aren't ideal
In pics small framed guys but with really nice proportions will always look really nice. But irl standing next to the large framed guy with worse proportions, trust me they'll look small which is not ideal

 

[Deleted member 2745]

That is probably true, attention from JB's didn't increase by as much as from older women but there was still a difference. I'll PM you a pic but I'm not on my phone so I don't have good photos from this summer when I had more muscle

Can you pm me too poeat?
Please
I think you miss the point of gymcelling. It's more about getting lean. Muscles are a bonus