🙏 God's not real 🙏

[noodlelover]

Nothing can be created or destroyed.

There is only existence and change.

 

[ineonx]

Nothing can be created or destroyed.

There is only existence and change.

Bro is a philosopher

 

[iwannabebreathtakin]

Nothing can be created or destroyed.

There is only existence and change.

I only believe in trump
Amen

 

[James5858]

nerd, maybe do your research properly and read facts about Jesus Christ and manuscripts before coming to conclusions, you’re honestly a moron if you think we just came out of nothing, big bang theory? there is a creator boyo

 

[Mess]

God's existence is something we are unable to comprehend. Like who came first the chicken or the egg

 

[James5858]

exactly, we are simply only humans and we are not capable to understand his logic etc

 

[noodlelover]

nerd, maybe do your research properly and read facts about Jesus Christ and manuscripts before coming to conclusions, you’re honestly a moron if you think we just came out of nothing, big bang theory? there is a creator boyo

There's no creator because nothing is created or destroyed.

There is only change. Not creation.

Creation is how humans think about certain categories of change.

God's existence is something we are unable to comprehend. Like who came first the chicken or the egg

The egg came first.

Eggs evolved before chickens.

 

[James5858]

There's no creator because nothing is created or destroyed.

There is only change. Not creation.


The egg came first.

Eggs evolved before chickens.

Dude who do you think you are with your full stops acting hard, you clearly are uneducated and don’t wanna have a conversation and hear us out ur just stuck to ur “there’s only change and not creation, what the fuck do you mean

 

[Mess]

The egg came first.

Eggs evolved before chickens.

But the egg must be created by an external party, it cannot conceive itself. It needed a creator, or an event for it to be formed. You speak of only change, but something cannot also just be there. There has to be a creation from a creator.

 

[Deleted member 101955]

Nothing can be created or destroyed.

There is only existence and change.

I dont subscribe to the Universe being infinite. But hey atleast its a decent fucking theory.

 

[Mess]

Dude who do you think you are with your full stops acting hard, you clearly are uneducated and don’t wanna have a conversation and hear us out ur just stuck to ur “there’s only change and not creation, what the fuck do you mean

He's using proper grammer so what?

 

[James5858]

He's using proper grammer so what?

no it’s just a wild claim to make that something is not real that like a quarter of the world believes in

 

[iblamechico]

no it’s just a wild claim to make that something is not real that like a quarter of the world believes in

You probably do the same.

 

[James5858]

wdym

 

[noodlelover]

Dude who do you think you are with your full stops acting hard, you clearly are uneducated and don’t wanna have a conversation and hear us out ur just stuck to ur “there’s only change and not creation, what the fuck do you mean

I mean the concept of creation is a human oversimplification.

It's a useful heuristic for describing certain categories of change.

But the egg must be created by an external party, it cannot conceive itself. It needed a creator, or an event for it to be formed. You speak of only change, but something cannot also just be there. There has to be a creation from a creator.

The egg came from a Red Jungle Fowel. It's the animal the chicken evolved from.

Nothing is really created or destroyed, it's all just gradual change. Energy and matter moving around.

He's using proper grammer so what?

I am talking in an arrogant tone. But I don't mind if people call me out a bit on that.

This is something, as a high IQ person, that has still taken me decades of thought to come too. So I feel it's something that should be stated with arrogance because it is absolutely true.

The Human concept of creation is something we learn, about how matter and energy change across time. We routinely mis-apply this learned concept to existence. It's a category error, not understanding what 'creation" is, which again, it is only change.

I myself have made this category error.

 

[noodlelover]

wdym

Well, when we make a house, we're not really creating anything.

We're changing trees and mud, and other supplies into a house.

We use the word "create" to describe certain kinds of change.

Create is a useful word, but really there is no such thing as creation, only change.


So the universe was never created, only something changed into the universe.

 

[James5858]

Yeah but what was the something from?

 

[noodlelover]

Yeah but what was the something from?

Something can't come from nothing.

So something always existed.

 

[Mess]

The egg came from a Red Jungle Fowel. It's the animal the chicken evolved from.

Nothing is really created or destroyed, it's all just gradual change. Energy and matter moving around.

The egg paradox is not to be taken literally, it is an analogy for God's existence. It is interesting to consider that energy is never stuck in one place and that it is always moving about. But I firmly believe that for something to exist, there needs to be a creation event, whether that be making a wooden desk in your garage etc. You can argue that the materials have always existed, however I was the one who created the table, not the wooden base with 4 wooden legs.

 

[wollet2]

there is only suffering. how fucking unfortunate

 

[Deleted member 53646]

Debatereligion.org

 

[noodlelover]

The egg paradox is not to be taken literally, it is an analogy for God's existence. It is interesting to consider that energy is never stuck in one place and that it is always moving about. But I firmly believe that for something to exist, there needs to be a creation event, whether that be making a wooden desk in your garage etc. You can argue that the materials have always existed, however I was the one who created the table, not the wooden base with 4 wooden legs.

The materials always existed is my main point.

Something can't come from nothing.
So something always existed.

Maybe it's the matter and energy of this universe. Or maybe we are in a computer simulation (likely) and our universe is something in another universe.

 

[Mess]

The materials always existed is my main point.

Something can't come from nothing.
So something always existed.

Maybe it's the matter and energy of this universe. Or maybe we are in a computer simulation (likely).

I believe God is that thing that always existed. As I had previously said, God's existence and creation is outside of logic and human understanding. Or we may just be in a video game being played by an alien 28 yr old incel Also very high iq user

 

[cooldude1231]

The materials always existed is my main point.

Something can't come from nothing.
So something always existed.

Maybe it's the matter and energy of this universe. Or maybe we are in a computer simulation (likely) and our universe is something in another universe.

Them always existing makes no sense unless we are code
And if we are code, in the coders universe have their materials always existed too? Its a loop

 

[noodlelover]

I believe God is that thing that always existed. As I had previously said, God's existence and creation is outside of logic and human understanding. Or we may just be in a video game being played by an alien 28 yr old incel Also very high iq user

Perhaps if god created the universe, and nothing can be created or destroyed then the universe is god or part of god.

I believe we are in a historical simulation. So the simulation of you is based on your posts on this looksmax website and other places.

 

[noodlelover]

Them always existing makes no sense unless we are code
And if we are code, in the coders universe have their materials always existed too? Its a loop

It's just infinite. Our brains can't handle infinite but the infinite must be what's true, nothing else makes sense.

 

[cooldude1231]

It's just infinite. Our brains can't handle infinite but the infinite must be what's true, nothing else makes sense.

Do you know any books about shit like this?

 

[Mess]

Perhaps if god created the universe, and nothing can be created or destroyed then the universe is god or part of god.

I believe we are in a historical simulation. So the simulation of you is based on your posts on incels.is and other places.

Should have a read into the egg theory. It states that every person is just a reincarnation of every past human. We are the same soul experiencing life in a different vessel each time. Once we live each life, then we get reincarnated as a God.

 

[Daddy's Home]

Debatereligion.org

It seems that faith/religion/god threads, especially if they are just a little "spicy", attract the most attention and interaction. I wonder if ever such posts will be labeled by moderators as rage bait..

 

[gookcelriceR]

I believe God is that thing that always existed. As I had previously said, God's existence and creation is outside of logic and human understanding. Or we may just be in a video game being played by an alien 28 yr old incel Also very high iq user

I thought of that too, but even if we lived in a simulation, does that make God fake? I mean, what if he exists inside the simulation? Then what does 'real' mean, nigga?

 

[noodlelover]

It seems that faith/religion/god threads, especially if they are just a little "spicy", attract the most attention and interaction. I wonder if ever such posts will be labeled by moderators as rage bait..

Rage bait is the reason the "offtopic" is good imho.

It creates the most interesting debates and commentary. Also the most dopamine.

 

[Mess]

I thought of that too, but even if we lived in a simulation, does that make God fake? I mean, what if he exists inside the simulation? Then what does 'real' mean, nigga?

If we are in a simulation, then all the biblical scripture was made up. All the vast religion were false and probably concieved up from some sci-fi novelist in their universe. Whose to say they don't have a God, we don't know. They may just be like us, many religions marginalising us

 

[Mess]

Rage bait is the reason the "offtopic" is good imho.

It creates the most interesting debates and commentary. Also the most dopamine.

This is my first time doing a "debate" or whatever you call it, fun asf

 

[gookcelriceR]

If we are in a simulation, then all the biblical scripture was made up. All the vast religion were false and probably concieved up from some sci-fi novelist in their universe. Whose to say they don't have a God, we don't know. They may just be like us, many religions marginalising us

That doesn't quite cut it either. If the events were written like a story, it could still be that they happened in real life. So let's say Jesus Christ existed, but he was coded in the simulation too, think of it as a long ass book, there's life inside it, we're still the characters.

 

[Mess]

That doesn't quite cut it either. If the events were written like a story, it could still be that they happened in real life. So let's say Jesus Christ existed, but he was coded in the simulation too, think of it as a long ass book, there's life inside it, we're still the characters.

Could be something. But that wouldn't explain how there are so many other religions. If these people knew who the true saviour was, why would they make us have so many options?

 

[gookcelriceR]

Could be something. But that wouldn't explain how there are so many other religions. If these people knew who the true saviour was, why would they make us have so many options?

It is a mystery. All of this sounds like extraordinary fiction

 

[faustianspirit]

you sound like a commie

 

[noodlelover]

you sound like a commie

I'm not communist. I believe a free market system with some government regulations is optimal.

Free market forces are essentially evolution.

 

[Poopless One]

gaytheist ramblings

 

[moodless]

Only retards ITT

 

[Deleted member 100569]