Good base

[RecessedCel5]

What is your guy's opinion on what constitutes "Good base" for surgery.

alot of people seem to think that it's linear, and that if you are 4 PSL you can only linearly ascend to 4.5 or 5. it seems however that there are people. which ascend multiple points through one surgery (example below ). i don't think they are just outliers, i think it's due to the type of flaw in the face.

it seems that there are flaws which are harder to fix(not impossible but way harder), like IPD, midface ratio, etc. I think the type of falio you have is important in whether you have a good base for surgery.

 

[truthhurts]

Ideal facial thirds, ( face shape?), colouring, that’s it I think, and somehow ideal ratios

 

[KT-34]

Often all these dudes with good bases have very little flaws and just a big one that descends them hard, so it's an easy transformation because it's just one surgery to fix that flaw

 

[RecessedCel5]

Ideal facial thirds, ( face shape?), colouring, that’s is I think, and somehow ideal ratios

Often all these dudes with good bases have very little flaws and just a big one that descends them hard, so it's an easy transformation because it's just one surgery to fix that flaw

he had a really good midface ratio pre surgery(and after surgery also), but the shortface really descended him hard

 

[KT-34]

he had a really good midface ratio pre surgery(and after surgery also), but the shortface really descended him hard

Plus his eyes and cheekbones were good

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

What surgery did he get

 

[RecessedCel5]

What surgery did he get

bimax with genio

 

[RecessedCel5]

Plus his eyes and cheekbones were good

his ESR pre surgery was 0.50. which is slightly off the ideal but good

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Are they risky

bimax with genio

Surgeries

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

And how much do they cost if ur getting it from a good surgeon

 

[flippasav]

Having a good base is EVERYTHING it leads to many natural ascensions

 

[RecessedCel5]

And how much do they cost if ur getting it from a good surgeon

they range from 12k-50k. it depends on whether you have insurance aswell.
if you live in America though, they are like 40k minimum, and the surgeons in the USA are decent, but not as good as europe.

 

[RecessedCel5]

Are they risky

Surgeries

the recovery period is long, but it's generally safe.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

they range from 12k-50k. it depends on whether you have insurance aswell.
if you live in America though, they are like 40k minimum, and the surgeons in the USA are decent, but not as good as europe.

How much is it in Europe

 

[RecessedCel5]

How much is it in Europe

the surgeons which are popular here(keep in mind popularity doesn't always mean they are good) are usually in spain,italy,swizterland and in turkey. the most expensive ones are in italy, they cost like 25k-50k. in spain i heard it's about 30k, swizterland 40k, and in turkey it's 15-25k. i could be wrong though as prices do change when surgeons get more popular

 

[CD34]

What is your guy's opinion on what constitutes "Good base" for surgery.

alot of people seem to think that it's linear, and that if you are 4 PSL you can only linearly ascend to 4.5 or 5. it seems however that there are people. which ascend multiple points through one surgery (example below ). i don't think they are just outliers, i think it's due to the type of flaw in the face.
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it seems that there are flaws which are harder to fix(not impossible but way harder), like IPD, midface ratio, etc. I think the type of falio you have is important in whether you have a good base for surgery.

midface failo is not that hard to fix tbh just get ccw / osteotomy. ipd on the other hand it might not even be fixable if it's too subhuman

 

[RecessedCel5]

midface failo is not that hard to fix tbh just get ccw / osteotomy. ipd on the other hand it might not even be fixable if it's too subhuman

you can go to turkey and get an OBO with giant

 

[CD34]

you can go to turkey and get an OBO with giant

It doesn't necessarily get better if it's too subhuman