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So far no ones able to talk me out of it, maybe someone on here can
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Was hoping more of hearing alternate suggestionsNo one cares nigga do what you want
if you want to get your face ripped apart then reconstructed that’s your right
Yes, mid maxilla is recessed causing all my problemsModified le fort 3?
Sinn said he can push mid maxilla out?Yes, mid maxilla is recessed causing all my problems
you will be the first on this siteYes, mid maxilla is recessed causing all my problems
Isn't that what a mlf3 is for?Sinn said he can push mid maxilla out?
Prob first to die as wellyou will be the first on this site
hopefully this isn't a larp i like seeing ascensions
Damn. I hope you ascend. I need mfl3 tooIsn't that what a mlf3 is for?
Talked to him briefly, didn't get too much into detail, got scans done and sent to him so he can have a better look
when are you doing itProb first to die as well
Nope, got my scans done and everything
Unironically, if your maxilla is recessed, start mewing, it really helps but the result isnt that good and it takes a long timeProb first to die as well
Nope, got my scans done and everything
December. I want to quit smoking and exercise, eat healthy and be in top shape beforehandwhen are you doing it
I thought about it. But I'm 28, and my nose is cucked from deviated septum, so hard to mew (I still try to make it a habit)Unironically, if your maxilla is recessed, start mewing, it really helps but the result isnt that good and it takes a long time
The thought of a better life makes me tear up. Thank youDamn. I hope you ascend. I need mfl3 too
bruh make sure you are low bf, do some water fasts and eat only organic foodsDecember. I want to quit smoking and exercise, eat healthy and be in top shape beforehand
For sure. Worst comes to worse I'll postpone it a bit if I don't feel at an ideal health. Thanks manbruh make sure you are low bf, do some water fasts and eat only organic foods
if you cant cook it, or you cant find it in nature, dont eat it.
i wish you well, this is a big ass surgery
That's the scary part. I like to cope with the horror as to imagine myself like the first astronaut to go to spaceDid he show any before/afters to you? Do you have any on the internet? A few people are interested in this ML3, and its being offered, but there aren't before/after pics of any men having it done. Its like your the test mouse being the first one doing it, hopefully thats not the case and you have some before/afters?
That's the scary part. I like to cope with the horror as to imagine myself like the first astronaut to go to space
There was a guy that got it done like 5 years ago, but wouldn't post pics, and claims that it only really raises your psl by 1-2, and that a very few only ever go from ugly to hot. I'll be sure to write an extensive article about it with before and after photos (I have over 1000 selfies ever since I got blackpilled jfl)
I'll ask Dr. Sinn if he has any he can provide, still in the early talks with him
Why not get a bimax + infraorbital malar implants.
Closes thing to a modified lefort 3 without the risk.
Dr Sinn is just a waste of money.
If you really want this modified lefort 3 You can get a maxfac in India to do it for like a quarter of the price.
Even more unironically if you start mewing after jaw surgery like for example Mlf3 you will gain more forward and upward growth since bones were cut and new bone will be formedUnironically, if your maxilla is recessed, start mewing, it really helps but the result isnt that good and it takes a long time
Very interesting. Cut bone = new open sutures = best for mewing. Holy damnEven more unironically if you start mewing after jaw surgery like for example Mlf3 you will gain more forward and upward growth since bones were cut and new bone will be formed
That's the scary part. I like to cope with the horror as to imagine myself like the first astronaut to go to space
There was a guy that got it done like 5 years ago, but wouldn't post pics, and claims that it only really raises your psl by 1-2, and that a very few only ever go from ugly to hot. I'll be sure to write an extensive article about it with before and after photos (I have over 1000 selfies ever since I got blackpilled jfl)
I'll ask Dr. Sinn if he has any he can provide, still in the early talks with him
I think soVery interesting. Cut bone = new open sutures = best for mewing. Holy damn
Woah, what is this? Does it work on adults? More info pls
Bimax doesn't fix mid maxilla recession. And don't like Taban's before and afters that much tbh. Prefer it be my real bone
Posted here several times about mlf3 and such, didn't get much info. Not much on the internet as well, so just took matters into my own hands
Slight bug eyes, sclera show, recessed zygos, sloped jaw, recessed mandible, big nose, asymmetry, mild sleep aneaWhich problems do you have caused by mid maxila recessio ?
I just don't think I can cope with a mediocre life tbh. Especially later on my deathbed, can't have any regrets knowing I didn't make the most of lifeYour going to space but you have a decent life on Planet Earth. Its not like your a homeless guy, or guy who gets 0 girls. Its a risk I would only take if I had nothing to lose looks-wise, but thats not the case with you.
Anyway if you do end up doing it, yes please update us on how it went (good or bad), that would be tremendously helpful for everybody coming after you, just like Saiyan was as the first guy to post before/afters of Eppley's zygo implants.
Trying. No one knows shit. And most maxillary surgeons just tell you not to do it, increasing inhib. Less I know the better, just interested in survival rate, blindness rate, nerve damage rate, rest idcBro you need to do your research. To even be candidate for a mlf3 you need to know everything .
You should be talking to all the maxfacs that post clinic articles on the lefort 3s. Also all the maxfacs that deal with things like crouzons syndrome.
Going to Dr Sinn first shows you havnt done your research thoroughly and just going with the mainstream . Just like low iq people go to Eppley to get his shitty implants.
Post all the numbers here when you ask the docsTrying. No one knows shit. And most maxillary surgeons just tell you not to do it, increasing inhib. Less I know the better, just interested in survival rate, blindness rate, nerve damage rate, rest idc
If you're under 20 or so mewing is your best bet. Over 20 or so, not really anything - mewing helps regardless, it should be mandatory in all caseswhat other methods are there for slight recession of mid maxilla?
i guess mse + facemask should also work to a degree i guessIf you're under 20 or so mewing is your best bet. Over 20 or so, not really anything - mewing helps regardless, it should be mandatory in all cases
reminder this will be your face
Bro you need to do your research. To even be candidate for a mlf3 you need to know everything .
You should be talking to all the maxfacs that post clinic articles on the lefort 3s. Also all the maxfacs that deal with things like crouzons syndrome.
Going to Dr Sinn first shows you havnt done your research thoroughly and just going with the mainstream . Just like low iq people go to Eppley to get his shitty implants.
He has a point about being skeptical of Sinn.^lol OP dont listen to this fucking retard whos just spewing bullshit from 80 iq users here
i havent seen ur pics, but if you have an upper midface deficiency that's prob the best way to get it fixed. implants are much less harmonious and there have been a few on psl who have done the same surgery.
Yeah not a big fan of implants, dont wanma go down uncanny valley^lol OP dont listen to this fucking retard whos just spewing bullshit from 80 iq users here
i havent seen ur pics, but if you have an upper midface deficiency that's prob the best way to get it fixed. implants are much less harmonious and there have been a few on psl who have done the same surgery.
Agreed.. but is there any other choice tbh?He has a point about being skeptical of Sinn.
Pmed you pics. Slightly frauded, but you get the picture^lol OP dont listen to this fucking retard whos just spewing bullshit from 80 iq users here
i havent seen ur pics, but if you have an upper midface deficiency that's prob the best way to get it fixed. implants are much less harmonious and there have been a few on psl who have done the same surgery.
Thanks dude. Yeah I feel like everything else is just cope. Mod. Lefort 3 + rhino + hairtransplant + uppereyelid fillers combined with mewing is the way to go in my case. Height is shit at 5'9, not gonna do LL, but with a 2+ psl boost will still do wonders for medon't listen to most guys here that the only looksmax procedure they'll ever do is put peppermint oil to their brows you're truly a pioneer and if that' s your final decision and are fully aware of the safety profile of the procedure i whish you good luck and hopefully it will boost your psl by 2+. Btw do you think it could reduce someone midface lenght ? thanks
Have you considered a custom infraorbital-zygomatic implant? You could design it however you want and some people on here have had excellent resultsWas hoping more of hearing alternate suggestions
That’s what the custom implant is for! It would augment the same exact area that the mlf3 would. But theoretically you would have more control over the outcome because you get to custom design.Woah, what is this? Does it work on adults? More info pls
Bimax doesn't fix mid maxilla recession. And don't like Taban's before and afters that much tbh. Prefer it be my real bone
Posted here several times about mlf3 and such, didn't get much info. Not much on the internet as well, so just took matters into my own hands
Literally this lol.ITT: people who have no idea the LF3 is different from a MLF3. There is little risk for a MLF3, it's about the same invasiveness as a bimax.