Growing up with non nts made me non nt?

[ThomasBart]

Is this possible? Everyone i know currently wouldnt describe me as non nt. But people used to be convinced i was non nt when i was hanging out with non nts. Genuinely think me only having non nt friends growing up still stunted my social skills.

Either i have always been non nt and learned to mask now. Or i genuinely am a product of my environment

 

[Whatever]

Yes, even as a twice diagnosed autist I believe it’s more environmental and circumstantial than genetic. The idea of a developmental delay to me means faults in the back and forth with the environment, to put this all on the individual and just assume the environment was ok is how these misdiagnoses happen, the environment must be looked at critically.

And I blame mostly my mom for making me non-NT in two ways. First, I just wasn’t around the other kids enough from middle school onwards, she had almost no friends or job or any social life of her own to include me in on. Also she kept moving us and I was the awkward new kid over and over again. Second, she herself is very non-NT, neurotic, mentally underdeveloped in some ways and that rubbed off on me big time.

When I was away from home and in a totally new environment, college, I NTmaxxed from 0-60 very quickly, especially when I finally had some good looking and NT friends. If I had some permanent genetic thing going on that wouldn’t have happened, my problem was my environment.

Very good thread by the way, way too good to be buried under a bunch of crap.

 

[ThomasBart]

Yes, even as a twice diagnosed autist I believe it’s more environmental and circumstantial than genetic. The idea of a developmental delay to me means faults in the back and forth with the environment, to put this all on the individual and just assume the environment was ok is how these misdiagnoses happen, the environment must be looked at critically.

And I blame mostly my mom for making me non-NT in two ways. First, I just wasn’t around the other kids enough from middle school onwards, she had almost no friends or job or any social life of her own to include me in on. Also she kept moving us and I was the awkward new kid over and over again. Second, she herself is very non-NT, neurotic, mentally underdeveloped in some ways and that rubbed off on me big time.

When I was away from home and in a totally new environment, college, I NTmaxxed from 0-60 very quickly, especially when I finally had some good looking and NT friends. If I had some permanent genetic thing going on that wouldn’t have happened, my problem was my environment.

Very good thread by the way, way too good to be buried under a bunch of crap.

Thanks man. I share a similar story. Age 4-12 i was isolated going to a very small school (60 kids) which was supposed to be easier for autists to thrive in. As a result i had very few friends growing up. At one point hanging out with just one guy only. And all of them were non NT. So naturally i just became a vidya addicted Non NT as well. Only after meeting NT friends in highschool (age 14) i got more NT. Quit gaming, started going outside, Started occasionally drinking. Talking to people instead of being socially anxious all the time. And most importantly looking more NT. But years of undersocilization prior to that still left a big impact on me i fear.