Guide to get a clear skin on steroids/high androgen

[5.5psl]

First off if you use steroids/SARMS you cannot have a perfect clear skin thats the loss we have to suffer but hey you can atleast have a good healthy skin that still stands out + with body halo makes you instantly attractive
Follow the 3 steps :

Step 1 :
Use AI( AROMATASE INHIBITOR NOT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE)
HIGH T GETS CONVERTED INTO E2 WHICH CAUSES MORE ACNE
USING AN AI HELPS

Step 2:
Use retinoids ( tretinoin or tazarotene)
these 2 are the closest cheap miracle we have for anti aging ( with sunscream ofc)
on high androgens your skin gets mega oily these help to remove the oil buildup but do make your skin dry so moisturizer is absolutely important in the beginning
Do your research and start them asap ( even if you have a good skin it could be better )


Step 3(nuclear option ):
Pls dont do this straight away if the above 2 dont work ( the above 2 are enough for a mogger skin ) but for few severe cases you need to use isotretinoin ( nothing works better than this for acne literally nothing but there are side effects as well thats why the last resort)


May god bless everyone working hard towards their goals. We all will become chads
Amen

@chadisbeingmade @flambria @Jattgymmaxx @m0ss26

 

[ethnic subhuman]

Nice thread, I read everything.

 

[idk769876]

BOTB + DNR.

 

[AlexoJeLTN]

First off if you use steroids/SARMS you cannot have a perfect clear skin thats the loss we have to suffer but hey you can atleast have a good healthy skin that still stands out + with body halo makes you instantly attractive
Follow the 3 steps :

Step 1 :
Use AI( AROMATASE INHIBITOR NOT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE)
HIGH T GETS CONVERTED INTO E2 WHICH CAUSES MORE ACNE
USING AN AI HELPS

Step 2:
Use retinoids ( tretinoin or tazarotene)
these 2 are the closest cheap miracle we have for anti aging ( with sunscream ofc)
on high androgens your skin gets mega oily these help to remove the oil buildup but do make your skin dry so moisturizer is absolutely important in the beginning
Do your research and start them asap ( even if you have a good skin it could be better )


Step 3(nuclear option ):
Pls dont do this straight away if the above 2 dont work ( the above 2 are enough for a mogger skin ) but for few severe cases you need to use isotretinoin ( nothing works better than this for acne literally nothing but there are side effects as well thats why the last resort)


May god bless everyone working hard towards their goals. We all will become chads
Amen

@chadisbeingmade @flambria @Jattgymmaxx @m0ss26

dnr just have clean diet

 

[5.5psl]

dnr just have clean diet

doesnt work son if you have 300ng/dl test then sure but not if you have 3000+ng/dl you need extra treatments

BOTB + DNR.

read it

Nice thread, I read everything.

 

[IraniancelV2]

Dut

 

[GoErOnFoids]

Artificial intelligence

 

[5.5psl]

Dut

its good too but on cycle e2 driven acne is more than dht driven so AI>dut

 

[Copercel]

First off if you use steroids/SARMS you cannot have a perfect clear skin thats the loss we have to suffer but hey you can atleast have a good healthy skin that still stands out + with body halo makes you instantly attractive
Follow the 3 steps :

Step 1 :
Use AI( AROMATASE INHIBITOR NOT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE)
HIGH T GETS CONVERTED INTO E2 WHICH CAUSES MORE ACNE
USING AN AI HELPS

Step 2:
Use retinoids ( tretinoin or tazarotene)
these 2 are the closest cheap miracle we have for anti aging ( with sunscream ofc)
on high androgens your skin gets mega oily these help to remove the oil buildup but do make your skin dry so moisturizer is absolutely important in the beginning
Do your research and start them asap ( even if you have a good skin it could be better )


Step 3(nuclear option ):
Pls dont do this straight away if the above 2 dont work ( the above 2 are enough for a mogger skin ) but for few severe cases you need to use isotretinoin ( nothing works better than this for acne literally nothing but there are side effects as well thats why the last resort)


May god bless everyone working hard towards their goals. We all will become chads
Amen

@chadisbeingmade @flambria @Jattgymmaxx @m0ss26

Why are you exaggerating it JFL

Accutane’s side effects are minimal-mild, it even has less side effects if you use an anti histamine.

Just use dut and accutane.

And btw since when E2 causes acne/bad skin in general LOL

 

[5.5psl]

Why are you exaggerating it JFL

Accutane’s side effects are minimal-mild, it even has less side effects if you use an anti histamine.

Just use dut and accutane.

And btw since when E2 causes acne/bad skin in general LOL

dry lips
purge
joint aches


why go through all that when you can take an arimidex pill ( literally makes you feel better on cycle) and slather a cream ( tret/taz) ?

 

[Copercel]

dry lips
purge
joint aches


why go through all that when you can take an arimidex pill ( literally makes you feel better on cycle) and slather a cream ( tret/taz) ?

Because unless you’re blasting grams of test daily you don’t need to crush your E2 for no reason.

If you notice side effects of high E2 (or you see the results in the blood test) then yeah I guess just use it, BUT only if you need to

A lot of people don’t even aromatize much while on cycle to a situation where they will need to use an AI and crash their E2 for no reason, and if you do aromatize

And btw, an AI can cause acne not the estrogen.

Accutane’s side effects are mild, manageable, and temporary, while its benefits are permanent. Dry lips isn’t a ‘serious’ side effect. An AI pill + retinoid cream isn’t a replacement for Accutane in high androgen cycles

dry lips
purge
joint aches

Do you mean this is caused from E2 or accutane?

 

[Jattgymmaxx]

Use AI(

im gonna use aromasin

how much you recommend using per day or do you only start using if you feel itchy nips etc

 

[5.5psl]

ecause unless you’re blasting grams of test daily you don’t need to crush your E2 for no reason

are you serious right now ? there are legit people who aromatize like crazy on 300mg test e majority would have sky e2 on anything above 700 which is a decent dose you need AI and that is what actually makes sure to avoid acne
this thread is particularly for roid users accutane is last option cuz on cycle if you are having acne it can be cured with AI + tret no need for accutane cuz the most probable reason is high e2

Do you mean this is caused from E2 or accutane

accutane

 

[5.5psl]

im gonna use aromasin

how much you recommend using per day or do you only start using if you feel itchy nips etc

what are you taking ?

 

[Jattgymmaxx]

what are you taking ?

my custom title next week im starting after my test e arrives

 

[ketamin]

my custom title next week im starting after my test e arrives

Why use LGD if on T just up the t dose.

 

[m0ss26]

Agree but I don’t like using an AI if i dont have to

Stick to retinoids i reckon

Also daily pins help acne trust me, less fluctuation

 

[m0ss26]

Dut

Also this

 

[5.5psl]

my custom title next week im starting after my test e arrives

at 250mg you probably wont aromatize much so you dont need AI (most probably) to confirm get blood works mid cycle when 4-5 weeks are done if e2 is 60+ pg/ml start taking 0.5mg arimidex eod

 

[Copercel]

are you serious right now ? there are legit people who aromatize like crazy on 300mg test e majority would have sky e2 on anything above 700 which is a decent dose you need AI and that is what actually makes sure to avoid acne
this thread is particularly for roid users accutane is last option cuz on cycle if you are having acne it can be cured with AI + tret no need for accutane cuz the most probable reason is high e2

You realize that using an AI won’t help your acne in cycle right?

And you need to use AI only when you are high E2 side effects. And like I already said, not all people aromatize to a point where they need to use an AI

Accutane side effects are completely manageable, especially when using an anti-histamine next to it. Meanwhile it’s the only thing that permanently shuts down sebaceous activity

Retinoids are good, sure, but they don’t come close to what Accutane does to your acne

 

[Copercel]

Also give me a good reason to not run accutane and dut for acne/skin in general while on roids?

 

[5.5psl]

You realize that using an AI won’t help your acne in cycle right?

And you need to use AI only when you are high E2 side effects. And like I already said, not all people aromatize to a point where they need to use an AI

Accutane side effects are completely manageable, especially when using an anti-histamine next to it. Meanwhile it’s the only thing that permanently shuts down sebaceous activity

Retinoids are good, sure, but they don’t come close to what Accutane does to your acne

i mean yeh theres nothing better than accutane didnt deny that but on cycle first try (AI + taz) if it doesnt work and you still get acne
take accutane

 

[Copercel]

i mean yeh theres nothing better than accutane didnt deny that but on cycle first try (AI + taz) if it doesnt work and you still get acne
take accutane

But I don’t get why you think that AI will help with acne?

 

[5.5psl]

But I don’t get why you think that AI will help with acne?

High Test = More aromatization to estrogen
High E2 = Increased sebum production
Hormonal fluctuations = Acne breakouts
Water retention = Puffier, more congested skin

ai lowers e2 thats how AI helps with acne.

 

[widdi]

High Test = More aromatization to estrogen
High E2 = Increased sebum production
Hormonal fluctuations = Acne breakouts
Water retention = Puffier, more congested skin

ai lowers e2 thats how AI helps with acne.

Do you use AIs as a precautionary mechanism or as soon as you begin to notice sides? I have some aromasin sitting around but I haven’t had puffy nips or a ton of bloating yet. I’m on week 2 of 250 mg/week pinning EOD.

 

[Copercel]

High E2 = Increased sebum production

estrogen lower sebum production

Hormonal fluctuations = Acne breakouts

You realize it’s not because of estrogen specifically, right?
Many hormones change when on gear

 

[widdi]

Because unless you’re blasting grams of test daily you don’t need to crush your E2 for no reason.

If you notice side effects of high E2 (or you see the results in the blood test) then yeah I guess just use it, BUT only if you need to

A lot of people don’t even aromatize much while on cycle to a situation where they will need to use an AI and crash their E2 for no reason, and if you do aromatize

And btw, an AI can cause acne not the estrogen.

Accutane’s side effects are mild, manageable, and temporary, while its benefits are permanent. Dry lips isn’t a ‘serious’ side effect. An AI pill + retinoid cream isn’t a replacement for Accutane in high androgen cycles

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Out of all of these an AI is the most severe. It makes more sense to run Taz + a microdose (like 5 mg daily) of isotret way before you try to nuke your estrogen.

 

[Copercel]

Do you use AIs as a precautionary mechanism or as soon as you begin to notice sides? I have some aromasin sitting around but I haven’t had puffy nips or a ton of bloating yet. I’m on week 2 of 250 mg/week pinning EOD.

You won’t dramatically aromatize to a pint when you will need to use an AI so you’re fine

If you do notice high E2 aid effects then yeah use it

 

[Copercel]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Out of all of these an AI is the most severe. It makes more sense to run Taz + a microdose (like 5 mg daily) of isotret way before you try to nuke your estrogen.

Yeah I don’t know why he’s glazing AI for acne, never heard of someone talking about it for acne specifically

 

[widdi]

You won’t dramatically aromatize to a pint when you will need to use an AI so you’re fine

If you do notice high E2 aid effects then yeah use it

even if I did start to id probably start pinning everyday before I touch AI idk why people want to fuck up even more hormones than they already are

 

[5.5psl]

Do you use AIs as a precautionary mechanism or as soon as you begin to notice sides? I have some aromasin sitting around but I haven’t had puffy nips or a ton of bloating yet. I’m on week 2 of 250 mg/week pinning EOD.

250mg is useless imo as a blast cycle 500 would give you slightly more side effects but a lot more gains you can gain upto 3 inches in 12 weeks ( done that)

 

[Jattgymmaxx]

at 250mg you probably wont aromatize much so you dont need AI (most probably) to confirm get blood works mid cycle when 4-5 weeks are done if e2 is 60+ pg/ml start taking 0.5mg arimidex eod

im gonna get aromasin just in case anyway

what's better aromasin or arimdex

hard to get blood work my mom was sussed out when I said I want one ill try my best

 

[Linus1888]

Would adding Isotret be too detrimental to the liver while on cycle?
I’d think 10-20mg would be enough depending on the acne

 

[5.5psl]

im gonna get aromasin just in case anyway

what's better aromasin or arimdex

hard to get blood work my mom was sussed out when I said I want one ill try my best

arimidex is stronger at 250 you'll be better with aromasin

 

[widdi]

250mg is useless imo as a blast cycle 500 would give you slightly more side effects but a lot more gains you can gain upto 3 inches in 12 weeks ( done that)

It’s not useless at all. Gains don’t even scale linearly, once you get to anywhere close to 500 you start hitting limits with regards to myostatin activation, motor unit recruitment differences, and other genetic factors. Obviously you want to start cycles on low doses and then titrate up depending on your response.

Also, unlike gains sides do scale linearly because there’s no real limit to how much you can fuck up your body, cause plaque buildup, increase blood pressure until you literally die. Most people above like 300-350 need AIs, check any forum. 500 mg as a starting cycle is literal 2000s tier gymbro advice, it’s not conducive to maintaining good looks or long term health.

Are you talking about height? I’m 21 so it’s irrelevant

im gonna get aromasin just in case anyway

what's better aromasin or arimdex

hard to get blood work my mom was sussed out when I said I want one ill try my best

Aromasin I’m pretty sure arimdex has a higher chance of fucking it up permanently. Go to privatelabsmd and order the female light hormone panel for like 70 bucks

 

[5.5psl]

It’s not useless at all. Gains don’t even scale linearly, once you get to anywhere close to 500 you start hitting limits with regards to myostatin activation, motor unit recruitment differences, and other genetic factors. Obviously you want to start cycles on low doses and then titrate up depending on your response.

Also, unlike gains sides do scale linearly because there’s no real limit to how much you can fuck up your body, cause plaque buildup, increase blood pressure until you literally die. Most people above like 300-350 need AIs, check any forum. 500 mg as a starting cycle is literal 2000s tier gymbro advice, it’s not conducive to maintaining good looks or long term health.

Are you talking about height? I’m 21 so it’s irrelevant



Aromasin I’m pretty sure arimdex has a higher chance of fucking it up permanently. Go to privatelabsmd and order the female light hormone panel for like 70 bucks

im talking about arm size and strength gains on 500mg i did ( gained 3 inch arm size in just 12 weeks and was benching 225 for reps ( 250mg is on the high -very high natty test whereas 500mg is supraphysiological it does has slightly more side effects which are manageable but your gains + mental state would be sky high compared to 250mg
and yeh not good for long term use thats why use it for 5-6 months max and then cruise on 200mg

 

[widdi]

im talking about arm size and strength gains on 500mg i did ( gained 3 inch arm size in just 12 weeks and was benching 225 for reps ( 250mg is on the high -very high natty test whereas 500mg is supraphysiological it does has slightly more side effects which are manageable but your gains + mental state would be sky high compared to 250mg
and yeh not good for long term use thats why use it for 5-6 months max and then cruise on 200mg

It depends on what your blood levels are. I would challenge you to find someone with a natty test of 1500-2500 ng/dl or to find someone who is such a poor responder to testosterone that even with actual 250 mg test (not underdosed crap sold by some random gymbro) that they are below like 1200. It’s probably more likely that someone on half that dose has borderline supraphiosological levels. I’ve heard stories of people taking actual TRT at like 125 or 140 and then they get bloods and are at like 1200 ng/dl. I’ve never really heard of anyone who claims like 2000ng/dl natty unless they’re obvious trolls.

 

[Mike456]

First off if you use steroids/SARMS you cannot have a perfect clear skin thats the loss we have to suffer but hey you can atleast have a good healthy skin that still stands out + with body halo makes you instantly attractive
Follow the 3 steps :

Step 1 :
Use AI( AROMATASE INHIBITOR NOT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE)
HIGH T GETS CONVERTED INTO E2 WHICH CAUSES MORE ACNE
USING AN AI HELPS

Step 2:
Use retinoids ( tretinoin or tazarotene)
these 2 are the closest cheap miracle we have for anti aging ( with sunscream ofc)
on high androgens your skin gets mega oily these help to remove the oil buildup but do make your skin dry so moisturizer is absolutely important in the beginning
Do your research and start them asap ( even if you have a good skin it could be better )


Step 3(nuclear option ):
Pls dont do this straight away if the above 2 dont work ( the above 2 are enough for a mogger skin ) but for few severe cases you need to use isotretinoin ( nothing works better than this for acne literally nothing but there are side effects as well thats why the last resort)


May god bless everyone working hard towards their goals. We all will become chads
Amen

@chadisbeingmade @flambria @Jattgymmaxx @m0ss26

Ima just double my dose of accutane and pray

 

[5.5psl]

It depends on what your blood levels are. I would challenge you to find someone with a natty test of 1500-2500 ng/dl or to find someone who is such a poor responder to testosterone that even with actual 250 mg test (not underdosed crap sold by some random gymbro) that they are below like 1200. It’s probably more likely that someone on half that dose has borderline supraphiosological levels. I’ve heard stories of people taking actual TRT at like 125 or 140 and then they get bloods and are at like 1200 ng/dl. I’ve never really heard of anyone who claims like 2000ng/dl natty unless they’re obvious trolls.

my point is if you decide to pin and hop gear 500mg is the sweet spot with proper AI management

 

[Mike456]

Why are you exaggerating it JFL

Accutane’s side effects are minimal-mild, it even has less side effects if you use an anti histamine.

Just use dut and accutane.

And btw since when E2 causes acne/bad skin in general LOL

All the side effects that are they are getting disolve by roids(muscle weakness,suicidal thoughts)

Only side effect dry lips and fingers (the skin around the nails)

 

[Aryan Incel]

What about Dutasteride?

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

First off if you use steroids/SARMS you cannot have a perfect clear skin thats the loss we have to suffer but hey you can atleast have a good healthy skin that still stands out + with body halo makes you instantly attractive
Follow the 3 steps :

Step 1 :
Use AI( AROMATASE INHIBITOR NOT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE)
HIGH T GETS CONVERTED INTO E2 WHICH CAUSES MORE ACNE
USING AN AI HELPS

Step 2:
Use retinoids ( tretinoin or tazarotene)
these 2 are the closest cheap miracle we have for anti aging ( with sunscream ofc)
on high androgens your skin gets mega oily these help to remove the oil buildup but do make your skin dry so moisturizer is absolutely important in the beginning
Do your research and start them asap ( even if you have a good skin it could be better )


Step 3(nuclear option ):
Pls dont do this straight away if the above 2 dont work ( the above 2 are enough for a mogger skin ) but for few severe cases you need to use isotretinoin ( nothing works better than this for acne literally nothing but there are side effects as well thats why the last resort)


May god bless everyone working hard towards their goals. We all will become chads
Amen

@chadisbeingmade @flambria @Jattgymmaxx @m0ss26

Every molecule

 

[bruhtoobrutal]

Dutasteride and a Topical Anti androgen

Isotretinoin should be a standard in everything as it directly shrinks sebaceous glands and stops excess oils