Had an consultation with Mario Pagnoni

[Chasingthedream569]

-I was originally going for infraorbital implants with saddle for my eye orbits in hoping to lift my lower eyelids, he didn't like my idea and told me that it won't make the difference I think it's going to make and will not lift very much the eyelid, also he told me that my midface is short and suggested instead of infraorbital implants we do 3 vector genioplasty (meaning bringing it forward, making it taller and wider)

-Also told me eye surgeries at my age isn't a good idea (I'm 20) , because the tissue changes very much as we age and it will be better to look once I hit 30s or so

-Asked him if fat grafting is good for the eye area, he told me it is okay / positive surgery, but as he said to avoid surgeries like implants , cantho etc. at that age unless really needed

-Striked me as very knowledgeable (obviously) and was surprised that he didn't just "agree" to do whatever pleased me but really focused on the flaws and risk involved, keep in mind the price on the infraorbital implants surgery is almost double than the genioplasty, so he didn't just went for a "cash grab" but focused on the flaws as I said.

-Told me generally when doing facial surgeries, often less is more

-I was gonna ask him later about my chin and if we can do genio in the future, but that is probably the first thing he started talking about, and when I told him that it's like he read my mind, he replied: "it's all just numbers and measurements from your skull"

I have generally really positive impression from him, and have scheduled next consultation to discuss my genio and how much we are going to widen, bring forward, make taller the chin

Here is my CT Scan:

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

it's like he read my mind, he replied: "it's all just numbers and measurements from your skull"

Pagnoni really knows his audience JFL
He knows saying this will make any incels peepee go wet and it works

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Pagnoni really knows his audience JFL
He knows saying this will make any incels peepee go wet and it works

Not really, my chin is recessed but on a CT Scan of the skull it doesn't look like it, that's why I was surprised, and if you read the full post he told me to not do the infraorbital implant surgery which costs double than the genio I'm going with him.

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Bump

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Not really, my chin is recessed but on a CT Scan of the skull it doesn't look like it, that's why I was surprised, and if you read the full post he told me to not do the infraorbital implant surgery which costs double than the genio I'm going with him.

Yes this is good. But what he said doesn’t mean shit I believe

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Yes this is good. But what he said doesn’t mean shit I believe

I don't know what you are specifically talking about, at the end of the day in terms of aesthetics everything is basically ratios and numbers of the skull, that's what he said

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

I don't know what you are specifically talking about, at the end of the day in terms of aesthetics everything is basically ratios and numbers of the skull, that's what he said

But I don’t think he pulled out his face iq app to analyse your shit. Maybe he just saw your chin was weak when you turned on cam ?

 

[tweaqo]

I don't know what you are specifically talking about, at the end of the day in terms of aesthetics everything is basically ratios and numbers of the skull, that's what he said

Numbers aren’t that important when soft tissue is shit.

Genio alone with Pagnoni should be fine tho

 

[Chasingthedream569]

But I don’t think he pulled out his face iq app to analyse your shit. Maybe he just saw your chin was weak when you turned on cam ?

No, my cam didn't even work at first then I turned it on, as I said he said he just said it's all about the numbers of the SKULL , idk how many times I have to repeat it

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Numbers aren’t that important when soft tissue is shit.

Genio alone with Pagnoni should be fine tho

Measurements, ratios, that's what we literally perceive biologically, and unconsciously in terms of aesthetics, but yes soft tissue is giga important, also what would YOU define as soft tissue on the chin area?

 

[Devon]

-I was originally going for infraorbital implants with saddle for my eye orbits in hoping to lift my lower eyelids, he didn't like my idea and told me that it won't make the difference I think it's going to make and will not lift very much the eyelid, also he told me that my midface is short and suggested instead of infraorbital implants we do 3 vector genioplasty (meaning bringing it forward, making it taller and wider)

-Also told me eye surgeries at my age isn't a good idea (I'm 20) , because the tissue changes very much as we age and it will be better to look once I hit 30s or so

-Asked him if fat grafting is good for the eye area, he told me it is okay / positive surgery, but as he said to avoid surgeries like implants , cantho etc. at that age unless really needed

-Striked me as very knowledgeable (obviously) and was surprised that he didn't just "agree" to do whatever pleased me but really focused on the flaws and risk involved, keep in mind the price on the infraorbital implants surgery is almost double than the genioplasty, so he didn't just went for a "cash grab" but focused on the flaws as I said.

-Told me generally when doing facial surgeries, often less is more

-I was gonna ask him later about my chin and if we can do genio in the future, but that is probably the first thing he started talking about, and when I told him that it's like he read my mind, he replied: "it's all just numbers and measurements from your skull"

I have generally really positive impression from him, and have scheduled next consultation to discuss my genio and how much we are going to widen, bring forward, make taller the chin

Here is my CT Scan:
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[tweaqo]

Measurements, ratios, that's what we literally perceive biologically, and unconsciously in terms of aesthetics, but yes soft tissue is giga important, also what would YOU define as soft tissue on the chin area?

Mentolabial angle/fold.

 

[iwantuinsideme]

you are ugly af - jesus christ - seriously, you have terrible genetics, terrible structure

you need all the plastys - just ask the surgeon - what surgeries do you do, all of them? and tell him "i'll take that please", and if he asks "what do you mean?", say "I mean everything - just do it all to me, everything you can and more - just experiment , go nuts, have a knife party on my deformed rat creature skull"

 

[SurgeonsAreScammers]

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you are ugly af - jesus christ - seriously, you have terrible genetics, terrible structure

you need all the plastys - just ask the surgeon - what surgeries do you do, all of them? and tell him "i'll take that please", and if he asks "what do you mean?", say "I mean everything - just do it all to me, everything you can and more - just experiment , go nuts, have a knife party on my deformed rat creature skull"

Wdym his skull isn’t so bad. Not great. Jaw and chin on the weaker side but at least his gonions are outwards and his orbitals look decent as well. Idk why you’re acting like it’s so over

 

[iwantuinsideme]

Wdym his skull isn’t so bad. Not great. Jaw and chin on the weaker side but at least his gonions are outwards and his orbitals look decent as well. Idk why you’re acting like it’s so over

hey mr glass half full - r u this guy irl?

 

[SurgeonsAreScammers]

hey mr glass half full - r u this guy irl?

He doesn’t have a good skull really but come on man he’s not “deformed” nor does he need every single plastic surgery known to man or any of that shit you said.

Guys like this are out here getting consultations and showing their CT scans which increases the information pool and helps everyone else. There’s no need to be excessively negative

 

[iwantuinsideme]

He doesn’t have a good skull really but come on man he’s not “deformed” nor does he need every single plastic surgery known to man or any of that shit you said.

Guys like this are out here getting consultations and showing their CT scans which increases the information pool and helps everyone else. There’s no need to be excessively negative

jesus christ - stop lying to yourself and others; he's completely deformed. everything you've said is absolute cope nonsense - nothing wrong with getting a consultation - stop making you sh1tty strawmen because you're a fvcking loser khunt who can't accept the reality is the structure is all over the place and don't want to admit you're wrong.

probably because you look even worse than him and were bullied at school for being a faggot loser.

 

[SurgeonsAreScammers]

jesus christ - stop lying to yourself and others; he's completely deformed. everything you've said is absolute cope nonsense - nothing wrong with getting a consultation - stop making you sh1tty strawmen because you're a fvcking loser khunt who can't accept the reality is the structure is all over the place and don't want to admit you're wrong.

probably because you look even worse than him and were bullied at school for being a faggot loser.

Are you trolling? The only really bad thing about him is his chin, which obviously can be fixed easily. Aside from that he’s pretty much normal looking. I legit can’t see what’s so bad about him and you haven’t even identified anything either other than “he’s deformed”. Looks like a normal ass skull to me

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Are you trolling? The only really bad thing about him is his chin, which obviously can be fixed easily. Aside from that he’s pretty much normal looking. I legit can’t see what’s so bad about him and you haven’t even identified anything either other than “he’s deformed”. Looks like a normal ass skull to me

He Is obviously trolling idk why you are even bothering replying to him

 

[Chasingthedream569]

BTW I need help if someone can help me and tell me what's going on I will appreciate it

https://looksmax.org/threads/something-i-dont-understand-about-my-face-and-my-ct-scan-correlation-pics-included.1816807/